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Kazuma Ry
Imperial Marauders Imperial Outlaws.
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:26:00 -
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I stopped getting fast food at fast food joints. If and when I was greasy food, I get it at a bar, since they have liquor to wash it down with.
Also, I did play solo (mining), but when I tried to strike up a converstion with the other miners, they ignored me, so I went and joined a FW corp to learn me some pvp. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
545
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:32:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Diesel47 wrote:Blobs are bad I agree. MMOS are games for players liking to play with others, for solo guys for whatever reason liking to play solo they can also play sudoku or other solo games like shooting ducks etc. You guys come to an MMO complaining players play together and complaining about their numbers. Don't you see the silly thing in this reasoning? I mean the players should bring more personality to the game, and not just do the same stuff in masses, thats what is completely missing, the fountain war did not bring up a single honorable personality, at least I did not hear of any, yea we did hear about the 4000 ship fight, but nothing more meaningful with solo player I think of bringing individualism to the game, instead of just beeing another number on a killmail History only remembers the great leaders, the armies are a mere footnote. Most men are content to simply be a part of the great armies that conquered worlds, some men need their names engraved in the minds of historians. Forgotten as they are, the unnamed soldiers are no less important to the story.
I was missing the personality in this war, thats why it ends up beeing just a number... soldiers write good story, true... however I did not see any of those https:// |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
545
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:37:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Diesel47 wrote:Blobs are bad I agree. MMOS are games for players liking to play with others, for solo guys for whatever reason liking to play solo they can also play sudoku or other solo games like shooting ducks etc. You guys come to an MMO complaining players play together and complaining about their numbers. Don't you see the silly thing in this reasoning? I mean the players should bring more personality to the game, and not just do the same stuff in masses, thats whats completely missing, the fountain war did not bring up a single honorable personality, at least I did not hear of any, yea we did hear about the 4000 ship fight, but nothing more meaningful with solo player I think of bringing individualism to the game, instead of just beeing another number on a killmail I can safely tell you how you make the difference in between a bad and a good dictor pilot, one has a strong personality and takes his own decisions when or when not bble despite FC orders, the other is a simple monkey hitting the bble button when fc says so or when targets are already in warp thus bble'in his own fleet. Non the less, the good dictor pilot with his individual thinking and decisions is still able to play with massive number of players. Can you see the difference in your point and mine? -there are also other fleet roles than hit F1 on primaries that are extremely important and require strong character/personality individuals with on top excellent social skills: FCs, tacklers, probers etc. You just decide to see or stick that negative image on every large fleet because you lack of knowledge and experience doing it. I've been there at my beginning and have a far different opinion now I've done a lot of stuff in Eve and flow a lot of different ships in different situations. Doesn't makes me any better than you just a bit more experienced and probably as terrible if not even worst at pvp than you.
still those stories of those individuals are missing... they are not told... honestly I made a better story out of my cynokills alone thats what I'm saying here... there is something missing about those big fleets in EvE, personality, at least nobody sees it... I think people just lack the courage to tell the story, because of all the dull comments they would get... thats bad https:// |
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
45
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:40:00 -
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I get what the OP is saying. Sure we have the war... but where's the love |
Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
334
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:42:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:i and my friends had enough story and meaning to make the bbc and like eight other newspapers
you had enough meaning to make this thread, and this thread ain't much
Some prefer to rule in hell than serve in heaven. |
Addrake
Origin. Black Legion.
36
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:43:00 -
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Another OP complaining about people not playing the game the way he wants them to.
You'd think we'd be used to this by now. |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
234
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:53:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: I mean the players should bring more personality to the game, and not just do the same stuff in masses, thats what I'm completely missing, the fountain war did not bring up a single honorable personality, at least I did not hear of any, yea we did hear about the 4000 ship fight, but nothing more meaningful
with solo player I think of bringing individualism to the game, instead of just beeing another number on a killmail
So - you want more gladiators, yeah? Well, that's nice. Gladiators don't win wars or hold territory - Soldiers do. The Fountain War was precisely what it needed to be, to conquer and hold territory.
If you want more Gladiators, maybe you could look into sponsoring some games, yeh? Set up tournaments, recruit some sponsors, invite some folks, and have a fine party. Mind you, you're going to have to police it pretty carefully, if you want 'honorable' combat. 'Cause some folks, well, they only care about the kill.
Off you go now. Toodle-oo! |
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp Goonswarm Federation
912
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:09:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:still those stories of those individuals are missing... they are not told... honestly I made a better story out of my cynokills alone thats what I'm saying here... there is something missing about those big fleets in EvE, personality, at least nobody sees it... I think people just lack the courage to tell the story, because of all the dull comments they would get... thats bad your stories are utter crap and anyone in the alliance who does useful things would prefer to be forgotten rather than have a story about them written by you
they have recognition in the group of people who matter
those people are us |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
545
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:10:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Harry Forever wrote: I mean the players should bring more personality to the game, and not just do the same stuff in masses, thats what I'm completely missing, the fountain war did not bring up a single honorable personality, at least I did not hear of any, yea we did hear about the 4000 ship fight, but nothing more meaningful
with solo player I think of bringing individualism to the game, instead of just beeing another number on a killmail
So - you want more Gladiators, yeah? Well, that's nice. Gladiators don't win wars or hold territory - Soldiers do. The Fountain War was precisely what it needed to be, to conquer and hold territory. If you want more Gladiators, maybe you could look into sponsoring some games, yeh? Set up tournaments, recruit some sponsors, invite some folks, and have a fine party. Mind you, you're going to have to police it pretty carefully, if you want 'honorable' combat. 'Cause some folks, well, they only care about the kill. Off you go now. Toodle-oo!
just go on doing your toodle-oo then o/ https:// |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
545
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:11:00 -
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Addrake wrote:Another OP complaining about people not playing the game the way he wants them to.
You'd think we'd be used to this by now.
no I'm telling the people they miss a lot in the game, nothing more
but we are used to dull comments like yours by now https:// |
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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp Goonswarm Federation
912
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:12:00 -
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the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story |
Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
43
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:15:00 -
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I agree with you in some points, but to each their own
I wouldn't like to join a large corp/alliance because I like the underdog stories and want to make part of one. I would join the loosing side off a war probably
However I can see why people do that because, although I've never been in a battle like the one in Fountain, it must be pretty fun being in one of those. You may not get the fame, but you've been there and enjoyed it. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
545
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:29:00 -
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Leafar Nightfall wrote:I agree with you in some points, but to each their own
I wouldn't like to join a large corp/alliance because I like the underdog stories and want to make part of one. I would join the loosing side off a war probably
However I can see why people do that because, although I've never been in a battle like the one in Fountain, it must be pretty fun being in one of those. You may not get the fame, but you've been there and enjoyed it.
sure thing, but they could make much more out of it... one mentioned it here: "where was the love..."
the excitment about it did not come accross well, it was just like here we got 4000 ships... the story around bad bobby for example was much more interesting, it also had big numbers in it, but still much more story content... it had personality
I think some people are concentrating too much on big numbers only... the war was just a supersize menu but not good cooking https:// |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3266
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:39:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:I do what i can.
The problem is that people don't even realise that they are playing the same ants as they are in real life.
Existential moment coming from a cool avatar... |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1434
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:48:00 -
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Can't join blob alliances because: a) Too many work and family commitments. Unpredictable ones, too. Can't commit to spending uninterrupted hours in fleet (waiting for form-up, getting to destination, having camp-outs at gates, etc. etc.) b) In a bureaucracy in RL, don't want to be in one ingame-- unless I'm at the very top of it! c) Bad bladder (it's a long story). Need frequent bio breaks, fleets leave me behind. d) Cat aggro. Dog too, recently. e) Being on voice comms interferes with running my mp3 playlist. f) Running around as a neut solo in SOV space is too fun!
But mainly a) and f). |
samualvimes
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
26
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:59:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Addrake wrote:Another OP complaining about people not playing the game the way he wants them to.
You'd think we'd be used to this by now. no I'm telling the people they miss a lot in the game, nothing more but we are used to dull comments like yours by now
Oh the irony |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4046
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:23:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story How much does a newbie ship cyno cost? Is it just the cost of the cyno module (you're already spent the LO by the time it dies I would assume). There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp Goonswarm Federation
917
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:25:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story How much does a newbie ship cyno cost? Is it just the cost of the cyno module (you're already spent the LO by the time it dies I would assume). i think you often need a t1 mpac and an extender as well, but you import like 1k of each and you're set for cynos forever on an alpha clone |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3451
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:28:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story And still he's doing more than 90% of the game, even if he's just trying.
That may or may be not more than you actually ever achieved ...
Sunbathing in the light of successes of a group is for weaklings, so these don't count. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3268
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:30:00 -
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Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:
- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in. - the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance)
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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp Goonswarm Federation
919
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:32:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story And still he's doing more than 90% of the game, even if he's just trying. That may or may be not more than you actually ever achieved ... Sunbathing in the light of successes of a group is for weaklings, so these don't count. that's "technetium lord weaselior, sir" to you |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1436
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:36:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:
- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in. - the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance)
True. And one fearless guy (who can identify himself here or not) has been in the game just long enough to run Level 3 missions... and do anoms deep in Goon space. |
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp Goonswarm Federation
919
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:41:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:
- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in. - the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance)
if you think either of those two things you're pretty hopeless |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3451
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:42:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Solstice Project wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:the heroic story of one aspie, his delusions of grandeur, and his failed attempts at relevancy that ended in the bitter defeat of clutching the killmails of newbie ship cynos as his one success in eve: the harry forever story And still he's doing more than 90% of the game, even if he's just trying. That may or may be not more than you actually ever achieved ... Sunbathing in the light of successes of a group is for weaklings, so these don't count. that's "technetium lord weaselior, sir" to you Hey weakling, when you're done cleaning my shoes, you can clean the toilet too. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1086
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:52:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:still those stories of those individuals are missing... they are not told... honestly I made a better story out of my cynokills alone thats what I'm saying here... there is something missing about those big fleets in EvE, personality, at least nobody sees it... I think people just lack the courage to tell the story, because of all the dull comments they would get... thats bad
Why do you have the feeling you need to get known with internet e-peens and showoffs to have the feeling you have accomplish something worth of any attention? The best players I know atm don't even post on GD or F&I for what its worth or probably with an alt, they're not searching whoever attention for what is worth of pixels or their admiration.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
550
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:56:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Harry Forever wrote:still those stories of those individuals are missing... they are not told... honestly I made a better story out of my cynokills alone thats what I'm saying here... there is something missing about those big fleets in EvE, personality, at least nobody sees it... I think people just lack the courage to tell the story, because of all the dull comments they would get... thats bad Why do you have the feeling you need to get known with internet e-peens and showoffs to have the feeling you have accomplish something worth of any attention? The best players I know atm don't even post on GD or F&I for what its worth or probably with an alt, they're not searching whoever attention for what is worth of pixels or their admiration.
its like reading a book, you don't like that, thats fine https:// |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3268
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:57:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:
- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in. - the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance)
if you think either of those two things you're pretty hopeless
Thanks to the ceaseless effort of forum warriors, a lot of people think those things. That's why there are more carebears in nullsec than highsec. That's why the so-called "pirates" are highsec hugging greifers preying on low-hanging fruit and noob harvesting for even they have been tricked by the Great Lie.
The real potential for loot, butthurt, and lols is in nullsec, in your territory, using your ships for target practice.
Nothing personal. This is a PVP game and a sandbox after all. Myself, Harry, and others, are trying to convince people that nullsec is not this no-mans land that requires fealty to an alliance just to gain entry.
Yeah I know, go to NPC nullsec. Well, we don't want to. In fact the Russians who live out there don't come to highsec ganking industrials and freighters complaining about how other people play. Some of those Russians help us.
Wormholes? Too quiet. They are good for getting past the intel channels though.
So what have we found? We find that while people complain about all that carebearing in highsec, nullsec only boosts its numbers by selling the same carebearing potential to players in nullsec. Yes there are hardcore PVPers who can be in fleet 23/7 ready to gank at a moments notice, and most of them are running highsec incursion alts.
But there is something I can agree with whenever we see the usual complaints about highsec.
I too would love to see all carebearing end in highsec. I would love to see everybody in highsec doing what Harry and company, these "wolves" I like to call them, going to nullsec. Highsec is the perfect jumpoff point.
And simply just doing it is the key. Everybody is so stuck in that box, the "you have to join an alliance or you won't make iSK" routine, most of the security of nullsec consists of just that. If even 5000 noobs or alts started going to nullsec and preying upon targets, nullsec would no longer be the stripmalled paved over corporate park that the neckbears have drama'ed it into.
It would be a festering hellhole of PVP. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
550
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:02:00 -
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maybe we did put too much story in the cynokills, but just because the stories in general are missing
the dull bigger better numbers competition is not really exciting, not sure why not many understand this here
by the way switched to kill industrials long ago... some live in the past far too long, get up to speed please
just yesterday a noctis was burning because of my torpedos, sure you got the reports on your intel channels https:// |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4047
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:03:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:
- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in. - the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance) if you think either of those two things you're pretty hopeless Goons are not as all powerful as people think. Clearly the mittani's Last Mistake in Fountain showed our weakness.
That and you might be better served linking ratting carrier killmails off the VFK beacon, really. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3268
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:08:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Cyno kills are merely a proof of concept:
- you can get to nullsec without being OMGWTFPWNED instablobbed in 2 seconds of jumping in. - the goons are not as all powerful as people think. (And TEST coming and and not being able to catch Harry's catalyst was proof that the same could be said of any alliance) if you think either of those two things you're pretty hopeless Goons are not as all powerful as people think. Clearly the mittani's Last Mistake in Fountain showed our weakness. That and you might be better served linking ratting carrier killmails off the VFK beacon, really.
Do you seriously think that day will never come? How long has this been going on, a month or two?
Experience must be had, tactics must be developed. I have seen people take on project for which they didn't know how to even use the tools, and in the end, they were getting job offers by others who have seen their work.
Ships will be lost, shields will be... shaken... oops.... clones will be splatted. You get the idea.
In the end, what happens? People are playing a PVP game.
To be honest I still don't know how I got my stealth bomber back to a friendly hangar for a refit. |
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