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The Jok3r
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Posted - 2005.12.22 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jaabaa Prime So basically both teams won.
The 5 forced a reaction by bringing in dreads, had a great fight and got the most kills.
F-E responded to a thread to their POS, had a great fight and saved their POS and controlled the system at the end of it.
I don't think the POS needed saving, I think the [5] wanted to fight and have it out. So if this is true from what I have read so far F-E lost this one IMO but I am glad to hear they came out and engaged them either way. GJ F-E no one should call you spineless basterds that carebear alot at.... least I wont!!!!
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Dre
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Posted - 2005.12.22 18:17:00 -
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ATUK only fight if they got spy's.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.12.22 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dre ATUK only fight if they got spy's.
We fight all the time then  ---------------
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Jaqs
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Posted - 2005.12.22 18:24:00 -
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atuk the 5 think posting in forums smack talking is actual fighting and winning pwning whatever gl on that lmao.
and Darko0177 whatever stick with something m8 otherwise nobody needs a ***** like you in thier alliance or corp or anywhere.
Too much to say just get in game and kill peeps.
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2005.12.22 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: ZedLey on 22/12/2005 18:38:47
Originally by: Jaqs atuk the 5 think posting in forums smack talking is actual fighting and winning pwning whatever gl on that lmao.
What on earth are you on about?
Edit: You werent involved yesterday were you?
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.12.22 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
Aah another classic.
a) some of your members have said your aim was 'the field' which is it ? The system, the POS, the killing, the laughing on the forums ? Aim for many things you bound to hit something.
Our aim was to fight, not a pos, not taking control - youll find no member stating different. Getting the field would be just a bonus.
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b) apart from maybe the final one.... which is of course the one that actually matters since the victor has time to get the cans.
Unless you saw another battle im sure if we didnt decide to end it right there right then there would have been more to come, as for the final one, have u seen different losslists ? Our fleet was far from "done" in any way or form, our pilots however were tired and had enough (considering the amount of kills they got and the late evening, not everyone has free all day... )
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shows how well you read my post, if you had bothered u would have understood i was pointing out that we werent interested in the cans and that it was too much of a hassle to stay and loot them all while u were regrouping. If we actually wanted we could have looted the first fields abit, leaving you with lesser loot, there was no pressure to engage you again.
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d) we could have stayed but it was past out bed time. d) we were winning but decided to let F-E have it becuase we are good like that. d) we were winning but really it was such a drag to stay d) had we stayed another 10 mins you would have had no ships left d) we didn't want the loot anyways like we didn't want Curse. d) we couldn't be bothered fighting anyway a bit like when MC were on us in Empire
shows what a load of bull**** cycles through your head really. Its undisputed we scored more kills and could have fought on, however the late evening and the unevitable wear down effect of wave after wave made it less likely to stay. Some pilots were out of ammo, others wanted to log, some (including myself) were dead and hunting for new equipment and others just were done with it for tonight. As i stated above if you have 6h before another 12h workday you might want to sleep - no matter how fun a >game< is.
As for the rest of your post, reread my first post in this thread. The more you tell yourself you are winning the more it helps us. Ive no issue to kill you guys over and over again. If it never dries up with the kills/battles whenever i login ull find me the last to cry about it.
The issue you have is that you actually think that we aim to "win", many ppl in SA will agree that the best time actually was when CA wasnt beaten but kept coming, same applies to the north. As for winning battles in empire and curse, thats history - history you had no part in it so i doubt ur opinion is qualified and "in touch" with anything but your own propaganda.
This thread got wrong at the point where u tried to define what our goals are instead of just accepting it was a great fight and we came out ahead on the kills.
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.12.22 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: ZedLey Edited by: ZedLey on 22/12/2005 18:38:47
Originally by: Jaqs atuk the 5 think posting in forums smack talking is actual fighting and winning pwning whatever gl on that lmao.
What on earth are you on about?
Edit: You werent involved yesterday were you?
Yep, he was. I'm his CEO and can attest to that though Jaqs is in every battle that comes along, he is indecipherable in any written format. He fights well but types like sh*t.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.12.22 18:56:00 -
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F-E really is starting to remind me of CA of pre-exodus (without the talent ofc ). There is so much forum bluster and our right rubbish I'd be cringing everytime I looked at the forums if I was an F-E member.
I can remember when we got spanked royaly by Evolution/ATUK and some fools in our alliance went on the foums claiming victory because we killed all their support. It just goes to show that it is easy to be manipulated to believe whatever it is you want to believe.
If you want to believe it was some glorious victory because you saved some small POS (that we didnt care about), feel free to be delusional, I won't try and stop you.
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.12.22 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
Aah another classic.
a) some of your members have said your aim was 'the field' which is it ? The system, the POS, the killing, the laughing on the forums ? Aim for many things you bound to hit something.
Our aim was to fight, not a pos, not taking control - youll find no member stating different. Getting the field would be just a bonus.
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b) apart from maybe the final one.... which is of course the one that actually matters since the victor has time to get the cans.
Unless you saw another battle im sure if we didnt decide to end it right there right then there would have been more to come, as for the final one, have u seen different losslists ? Our fleet was far from "done" in any way or form, our pilots however were tired and had enough (considering the amount of kills they got and the late evening, not everyone has free all day... )
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shows how well you read my post, if you had bothered u would have understood i was pointing out that we werent interested in the cans and that it was too much of a hassle to stay and loot them all while u were regrouping. If we actually wanted we could have looted the first fields abit, leaving you with lesser loot, there was no pressure to engage you again.
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d) we could have stayed but it was past out bed time. d) we were winning but decided to let F-E have it becuase we are good like that. d) we were winning but really it was such a drag to stay d) had we stayed another 10 mins you would have had no ships left d) we didn't want the loot anyways like we didn't want Curse. d) we couldn't be bothered fighting anyway a bit like when MC were on us in Empire
shows what a load of bull**** cycles through your head really. Its undisputed we scored more kills and could have fought on, however the late evening and the unevitable wear down effect of wave after wave made it less likely to stay. Some pilots were out of ammo, others wanted to log, some (including myself) were dead and hunting for new equipment and others just were done with it for tonight. As i stated above if you have 6h before another 12h workday you might want to sleep - no matter how fun a >game< is.
As for the rest of your post, reread my first post in this thread. The more you tell yourself you are winning the more it helps us. Ive no issue to kill you guys over and over again. If it never dries up with the kills/battles whenever i login ull find me the last to cry about it.
The issue you have is that you actually think that we aim to "win", many ppl in SA will agree that the best time actually was when CA wasnt beaten but kept coming, same applies to the north. As for winning battles in empire and curse, thats history - history you had no part in it so i doubt ur opinion is qualified and "in touch" with anything but your own propaganda.
This thread got wrong at the point where u tried to define what our goals are instead of just accepting it was a great fight and we came out ahead on the kills.
Another thing you left out, if we hadn't responded, you would have taken sov in our space. You didn't. Our space is still ours. That's all that matters. You were the invader and we the defender. We still have something to defend. 4 Dreads, in essence did nothing for you as they can barely hit anything smaller then a POS. Props for having the nyuts to risk 4 Dreads, though.
As far as the kill to loss ratio, the isk value was pretty close, you goes inflicted only slightly more isk loss to us then us to you. That's acceptable to us as price for maintaining control of our empire.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.22 19:07:00 -
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I wish many , many and many more defeats as you gave us last night. [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in". |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.12.22 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shyalud stuff
omg
Do you not understand how this all works yet?
First off, killing a small tower would have done what exctly for soventry? It takes FIVE days to get soventry now. Not to mention there are loads of moons thre anyway. If we wanted to, we'd be watching you pay 100M isk docking fee's (again).
It really isnt a wonder how you thought you won now that I read such nonsense. If you represent the average member I can see how such an easy thing can be impossible to comprehend.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.12.22 19:13:00 -
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shyalud please stop while ure ahead.
a) we wouldnt have been able to take sov by killing a small tower, especially since it takes now -5- days.
b) the isk loss wasnt "slightly more" you lost 150 ships we 20. You lost nearly triple our bs. Your boosted up numbers might make you feel fuzzy but its not reality. Remember to apply the same math to both sides before you actually make such statements. kthx.
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elohllird
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Posted - 2005.12.22 19:17:00 -
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Anyways, enough of this rubbish, HAPPY CHRISTMAS 
Peace to you all...and lets all get drunk

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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.12.22 19:23:00 -
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whateva you say man...I was actually trying to give you people props.
NM, you guys sux, we're great.
laters.
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2005.12.22 19:30:00 -
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Ok guys lets not beat a dead horse if it has already died from confusion. Its beginning to smell. Time to bury it.
Short Version:
ATUK/FE had fun. FE got spanked.
Any other BS lame theories or spins does not matter. Believe what you will, we will be back to do it again.
tootles
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Dr MOo
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Posted - 2005.12.22 19:44:00 -
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You ATUK guys make me sick.
F-E post an honest and accurate account of what hapenned, and speak very favourably towards ATUK. F-E say gf etc. and all ATUK can do to return the favour is flame them like hell over what they define as a victory.
For a start get some manners and appreciate some kindness when it comes your way. Congratulations on your kills, but don't **** on your name by being immature on the forums.
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Oninous
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Posted - 2005.12.22 19:46:00 -
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Frankly I had fun and don't care to respond to the Redonkulous smacktalk indicative of infantile mentality but I would like to say the LAG was the suck! CCP fix this ****ZY! /sign if ya feel meh!
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Bone Collector44
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Posted - 2005.12.22 19:55:00 -
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My take:
Fighting atuk = BORING Reading atuk posts = BORING
All in all you guys are simply boring. Watching paint dry is more fun than trying to engage you guys.
BTW- This might have been covered in some of the other posts, but I was too bored to read it all. The first screenie you have posted shows your gang size at 59 and 109 in local. Maybe my math isnt right, but...
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Chi Prime
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Posted - 2005.12.22 20:06:00 -
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I'm embarrassed to post in this thread tbh...
By the time I had gotten to page 2 I was hoping it would end in a *click.
I'd like to say thank you to the ATUK members who kept local free of smack. I'm sorry I cannot say the same about this thread. (Take a deep breath and relax, it's just a game. In a day or so we'll all be having xmas dinner with our loved ones. Dev's included.)
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2005.12.22 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Bone Collector44 ...random bollox...
Nobody is forcing you to do anything so why moan about it
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Trina Tron
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Posted - 2005.12.22 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Trina Tron on 22/12/2005 20:22:19
Originally by: Dr MOo You ATUK guys make me sick.
F-E post an honest and accurate account of what hapenned, and speak very favourably towards ATUK. F-E say gf etc. and all ATUK can do to return the favour is flame them like hell over what they define as a victory.
For a start get some manners and appreciate some kindness when it comes your way. Congratulations on your kills, but don't **** on your name by being immature on the forums.
Except they didnt post to say gf, they posted to go HAY GUYS LOOK WE BEAT ATUK despite not posting losing 150ships and killing 27 OH WHOOPS WE FORGOT DONT WORRY WE STILL WON!
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Dr MOo
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Posted - 2005.12.22 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Trina Tron Edited by: Trina Tron on 22/12/2005 20:22:19
Originally by: Dr MOo You ATUK guys make me sick.
F-E post an honest and accurate account of what hapenned, and speak very favourably towards ATUK. F-E say gf etc. and all ATUK can do to return the favour is flame them like hell over what they define as a victory.
For a start get some manners and appreciate some kindness when it comes your way. Congratulations on your kills, but don't **** on your name by being immature on the forums.
Except they didnt post to say gf, they posted to go HAY GUYS LOOK WE BEAT ATUK despite not posting losing 150ships and killing 27 OH WHOOPS WE FORGOT DONT WORRY WE STILL WON!
As someone stated earlier, its called a Phyric victory.
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BuRnEr
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Posted - 2005.12.22 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: BuRnEr on 22/12/2005 20:40:10
Originally by: Bone Collector44 My take:
Fighting atuk = BORING Reading atuk posts = BORING
All in all you guys are simply boring. Watching paint dry is more fun than trying to engage you guys.
Good, that¦s the point, it will make you quit the game quicker 
If you think it cant get anymore boring Just wait and see, We are somewere close to 10 old Oc members in Atuk and being boring was what we were best at...Trust me.
And since we killed your fleet 3 times over last night it could¦t have been to hard to get a fight... that is if you undocked ofc. 
edit - spelling
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Rajon Kelper
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Posted - 2005.12.22 20:52:00 -
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wait a second here...
All throughout this thread it's been flamed that FE had more ships than ATUK and how ATUK WTFPWNED FE even with 1/1000 of the number of pilots.
In this screenshot posted by an ATUK member, ATUK had 58 members in gang. I dont know when in the battle this was taken, but the highest number of pilots in the FE/Allies gang throughout the entire fight was 80, and it only got that high about 15 minutes or so before the [5] left. It was mostly only 60-70 throughout the majority of the battles.
I guess now Im wondering how FE could possibly have outnumbered the [5] so badly. If you have any suggestions as to what happened to reduce ATUK's numbers, please, im interested in learning. 
This isnt a flame, this is a question. Flaming me for asking it wont get you anywhere.
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Yzman Shhan
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Posted - 2005.12.22 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
b) FE didnt hold the "battlefields, everyone in the fight will admit that FE pulled out to regroup after each engagement (apart maybe from the final one which i personally didnt follow anymore due to my ships death).
As you are correcting everyone else (and as this thread hasn't died the quick dead it deserved), I'd like to ask you about the first engagement at h-w gate? We got I think 2 kills before you warped away?
DIE THREAD, DIE
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BuRnEr
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Posted - 2005.12.22 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rajon Kelper wait a second here...
All throughout this thread it's been flamed that FE had more ships than ATUK and how ATUK WTFPWNED FE even with 1/1000 of the number of pilots.
In this screenshot posted by an ATUK member, ATUK had 58 members in gang. I dont know when in the battle this was taken, but the highest number of pilots in the FE/Allies gang throughout the entire fight was 80, and it only got that high about 15 minutes or so before the [5] left. It was mostly only 60-70 throughout the majority of the battles.
I guess now Im wondering how FE could possibly have outnumbered the [5] so badly. If you have any suggestions as to what happened to reduce ATUK's numbers, please, im interested in learning. 
This isnt a flame, this is a question. Flaming me for asking it wont get you anywhere.
Umm, when we lost BS we could¦t dock and grab another one?... wait thats too simple.
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Bone Collector44
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Posted - 2005.12.22 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Bone Collector44 on 22/12/2005 20:59:49
Originally by: BuRnEr Edited by: BuRnEr on 22/12/2005 20:40:10
Originally by: Bone Collector44 My take:
Fighting atuk = BORING Reading atuk posts = BORING
All in all you guys are simply boring. Watching paint dry is more fun than trying to engage you guys.
See the paint drying comment above. You are even boring when talking about being boring.
Good, that¦s the point, it will make you quit the game quicker 
If you think it cant get anymore boring Just wait and see, We are somewere close to 10 old Oc members in Atuk and being boring was what we were best at...Trust me.
And since we killed your fleet 3 times over last night it could¦t have been to hard to get a fight... that is if you undocked ofc. 
edit - spelling
See the paint drying comment above. You are even boring when talking about being boring. You guys are a long ways from BORING me out of the game. You spend a total of maybe an hour a day in tribute and are safespotted for 55 of those minutes. B O R I N G.
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Jennie Marlboro
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Posted - 2005.12.22 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: BuRnEr
And since we killed your fleet 3 times over last night it could¦t have been to hard to get a fight... that is if you undocked ofc. 
Well they must have undocked for you to ... OMG! You killed them while they were still docked! U r teh u83r!!11!!1one!eleven
GG to both sides ... hope you keep having fun!
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2005.12.22 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: ZedLey on 22/12/2005 21:05:01
Originally by: Bone Collector44 Edited by: Bone Collector44 on 22/12/2005 20:59:49
Originally by: BuRnEr Edited by: BuRnEr on 22/12/2005 20:40:10
Originally by: Bone Collector44 My take:
Fighting atuk = BORING Reading atuk posts = BORING
All in all you guys are simply boring. Watching paint dry is more fun than trying to engage you guys.
See the paint drying comment above. You are even boring when talking about being boring.
Good, that¦s the point, it will make you quit the game quicker 
If you think it cant get anymore boring Just wait and see, We are somewere close to 10 old Oc members in Atuk and being boring was what we were best at...Trust me.
And since we killed your fleet 3 times over last night it could¦t have been to hard to get a fight... that is if you undocked ofc. 
edit - spelling
See the paint drying comment above. You are even boring when talking about being boring. You guys are a long ways from BORING me out of the game. You spend a total of maybe an hour a day in tribute and are safespotted for 55 of those minutes. B O R I N G.
Must suck to be you then, I know we arent bored.
Btw we arent here to entertain you. Afterall you declared war on us not the other way around.
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ildra
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Posted - 2005.12.22 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo
Originally by: Obidios Edited by: Obidios on 22/12/2005 01:22:33 Funny idea of victory... Loose double the BS + untolds more and don't kil a dread? lol.
It is called a Phyric victory... which is a victory
i wonder if u know what "Phyrric victory" means...
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