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Dave Stark
3330
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Posted - 2013.08.10 15:33:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:Dave for CSM! :p
no.
**** no.
i don't want that, ccp wouldn't want that and, the players wouldn't want that. no. just, no.
god damn rhiv, no. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3565
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Posted - 2013.08.10 15:43:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Rhivre wrote:Dave for CSM! :p no. **** no. i don't want that, ccp wouldn't want that and, the players wouldn't want that. no. just, no. god damn rhiv, no. You'd have my vote. :) |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8568
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Posted - 2013.08.10 16:17:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:when you talk about this game it feels more like a cage vs. a sandbox... you are just resistant to changes that make sense because it does not favour your playstyle
fleeting up is a team option, therefore should be restricted to that
Yes, and there are plenty of legitimate reasons to lock another person in your "team" even if you're not in a logistics ship: webbing a freighter to assist it into warp, warp disrupting a friendly if they get disconnected to prevent them from being killed in their e-warp spot, capacitor chains, remote sensor boosters, tracking links, remote ECCM, and so on. I'm sorry that none of these things are part of your "playstyle". Again, this game is not about "playstyles" because it's a sandbox.
Also, your idea is entirely defeated if the aggressor simply leaves the fleet and starts shooting you. So it's useless to begin with.
Harry Forever wrote:you can not shoot ships with mining lazers, although its a "sandbox"
there are tools that should be restricted to be used the right way
do you think a developed species like in eve would not restrict fleetmembers from shooting eachother?
we are not living in caves out here anymore you know
1) Being unable to use a mining laser against a ship isn't a restriction in the same way that being unable to use a hammer as a garden hose isn't a restriction
2) No, there shouldn't be arbitrary restrictions on how you use a tool.
3) Lore-based arguments in discussions about mechanics are utterly invalid Twitter: @EVEAndski
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SpoonRECKLESS
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.08.10 16:30:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:lockon to fleet members should be removable by the fleetcommander
after leaving fleet there should be a 1-5 minute timer, where you are not able to lockon to old fleetmembers either
at the moment there are too many douchebags who do not get kills and just try to fleetup with others and then start shooting them...
this would assure more random people team up, good for the game, bad for douchebags... win win
Who trick you into a fleet in low sec? Then warp to you,and then processed to blow up your ship? |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3410
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Posted - 2013.08.10 16:36:00 -
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SpoonRECKLESS wrote:Who trick you into a fleet in low sec? Then warp to you,and then processed to blow up your ship?
It was probably this. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
103
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:27:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:when you talk about this game it feels more like a cage vs. a sandbox... you are just resistant to changes that make sense because it does not favour your playstyle
fleeting up is a team option, therefore should be restricted to that
you can not shoot ships with mining lazers, although its a "sandbox"
there are tools that should be restricted to be used the right way
do you think a developed species like in eve would not restrict fleetmembers from shooting eachother?
we are not living in caves out here anymore you know Because we all know restriction equals sandbox. I disagree |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3571
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:28:00 -
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Guys, he's trolling you so hard you lost any sense. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
103
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:32:00 -
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Funny thing is he is not actually trolling I had the pleasure of spending time in VFK with one of Harry's first trips, and the even bigger pleasure of taking a manticore off his hands to sit beautifully in my hanger shining and loved, it's truly happy now. I disagree |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3291
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:26:00 -
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10 pages.
If one has an idea people don't like, but that gets 10 pages of response, the accusation of "trolling' may fly, but at this point nobody is coming out smelling like a rose.
See what democracy has wrought? When somebody has an idea they don't agree with, they feel like they have to attack. Why? Because everybody around you with an idea you don't like might vote to impose is on you.
Once, when a dev started a thread about feature changes (I forget the actual topic), I got a post in on the first page, and someone sent me a message offering to pay me ISK to edit my post to something they wanted to put in.
This is a kind of lobbying. Paying money, even in game money, for influence, as they thought they could influence the development of some game features by paying people to put in what they wanted on page 1 of the thread. Look at your google results when you search about the internet and note there are paid-for results on the first page.
So, someone posts and idea you don't like, and.... what happens? 10 pages.
This thread changes NOTHING. I could imagine it would matter if there was a developer or two in here asking for opinions, like that other thread. But were I tasked by CCP to look at threads from here to F&I, even I would have to admit that the tools for most of what gets asked for are already in place.
What we are forgetting is that this MMO is not a democracy. Thank God. We vote with our turrets here, most of the time, and in RL, the worst laws don't pass when they know people will turn to the ammo box having been violated by the ballot box and the ignorance of their countrymen.
But once more, because most of us live in the RL in countries where someone else's ideas can be imposed on you if you are not screaming against them every day, where silence is taken for complicity, the pattern repeats itself in these forums. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
638
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Posted - 2013.08.10 19:03:00 -
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SpoonRECKLESS wrote:Harry Forever wrote:lockon to fleet members should be removable by the fleetcommander
after leaving fleet there should be a 1-5 minute timer, where you are not able to lockon to old fleetmembers either
at the moment there are too many douchebags who do not get kills and just try to fleetup with others and then start shooting them...
this would assure more random people team up, good for the game, bad for douchebags... win win
Who trick you into a fleet in low sec? Then warp to you,and then processed to blow up your ship?
whats the trick, standing next to you and then suddenly just hitting you in the face?
if you think you tricked anybody by doing so, then you are just not right in your head... https:// |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
428
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Posted - 2013.08.10 19:59:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Wall of text While the development of the game is not a democracy the developers look at the threads as much as they can to gauge what people want from the game. The reason threads like this get to 10 pages though is because it's so far detached from the principles of EVE that it borders on the ridiculous. EVE is one of the few MMOs that is more created by the in game actions of the people than the mechanics that the developers put into it. That's what makes EVE special. Changes like this would detract from that and would only help people that are too lazy to play with the meta the way that the majority do. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Wodensun
Ragnars Reapers
112
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Posted - 2013.08.10 20:44:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:I know what you were fighting for before. Now you are fighting for changes in the game that allows you to achieve that in the easiest way possible.
Society has rules indeed. Guess what: lots of people don't follow them, and a good part of the rest wouldn't if there weren't rules. People don't do that in real life, you can't expect them to do in a game.
Why are you blaming Bloodknight2 for playing as he does? Didn't you learn what happens when you fleet up with anyone who asks?
You don't want to take down VFK and take carebears to null, you want to change the way people play a game by force, even if it means changing the rules of the game. people can paly it like they want, however they won't be winning, same thing in society people think they are smart scamming... they all endup in jail... they can go on like that, and they can keep begging to let them do it without punishment... it just won't happen those kids here need to grow up
Your a ******* moron, your government scams you, your employer scams you, hell even your friends would probably scam you. Stop being a naive lil ***** and smell the damn coffee.
ps, since hes a moron 100mil to the one whom brings me his frozen corpse. Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident... |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
147
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:01:00 -
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Thread has been moved to Features & Ideas Discussion. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
147
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:05:00 -
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A personal attack post has been removed.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
638
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:58:00 -
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Wodensun wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:I know what you were fighting for before. Now you are fighting for changes in the game that allows you to achieve that in the easiest way possible.
Society has rules indeed. Guess what: lots of people don't follow them, and a good part of the rest wouldn't if there weren't rules. People don't do that in real life, you can't expect them to do in a game.
Why are you blaming Bloodknight2 for playing as he does? Didn't you learn what happens when you fleet up with anyone who asks?
You don't want to take down VFK and take carebears to null, you want to change the way people play a game by force, even if it means changing the rules of the game. people can paly it like they want, however they won't be winning, same thing in society people think they are smart scamming... they all endup in jail... they can go on like that, and they can keep begging to let them do it without punishment... it just won't happen those kids here need to grow up Your a ******* moron, your government scams you, your employer scams you, hell even your friends would probably scam you. Stop being a naive lil ***** and smell the damn coffee. ps, since hes a moron 100mil to the one whom brings me his frozen corpse.
the goverment scams you? :'D oh god please, 1 ISK for his corpse! he sure is worth it!
if your goverment sucks then because of people like you, because you can not bring up anotherone https:// |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
2976
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:34:00 -
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I'm honestly surprised no one has bountied the OP yet. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
428
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:03:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:I'm honestly surprised no one has bountied the OP yet. They probably have. He dies so much that bounties don't last long. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
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