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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:09:00 -
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Lavabit, a 10 year old encrypted email service provider in the US has chosen to cease operations instead of allowing the NSA access to its servers. It is notable for being the email provider of Edward Snowden.
The Register Guardian
Apparently the knock on effects are starting to bite, currently 10% of international users of US cloud providers are leaving the country over privacy concerns. It gets interesting as the providers have built up capacity in a competitive area, so cutting 10% would disproportionately effect their bottom line. The worry is that if the trend continues, could we see something comparable to the overdevelopment of fiber optics and servers in the late 90's?
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:03:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The USA is more or less punching itself in the balls right now. Better than over here, with the exception of the Guardian which is screaming "FIRE" not many others are paying it much attention.
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:07:00 -
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New bit of data about NSA data collection and retention. A competitor of Lavabit has also voluntarily shut down to preempt a take down order.
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:50:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:baltec1 wrote:The USA is more or less punching itself in the balls right now. Don't judge us Looks like a keeper of a bruise to me
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:18:00 -
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Seriously been tempted to open a business in Iceland over the last month or so to do what these guys had been doing. And lo and behold as I expected, they are being shut down in the US. Its ballsy to have continued in the US ever since Snowdon leaked, this was inevitable and the nets been closing over the net since we noticed the man behind the curtain.
Even had my own mother using the "I have nothing to hide line" as she didn't understand why people want secrets.
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:42:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:I was really upset when I found out that the NSA was looking at my facebook page and weren't 'liking' anything. Or not saying Goodnight when you hang up the phone.
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:49:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Wanna privacy? Tell you government that you don't mind the occasional terrorist blowing you up.
What you can't ask is your government to intercept the message from the guy who wants to bomb you without intercepting every other communication. Personally I'd rather we start trying to tackle with blowback which provokes the attacks in the first place. By no means a sympathiser but it seems more practical to in future not destabilise regions full of fruitcakes. Realistically it looks like in the news that we have more to worry from Spain right now over the Rock than we do the Taliban or Al-Quaeda.
By that I mean bugger all, seems to be the losers that end up doing suicide bombings outside the ME and they apparently had to trick several of the hijackers in 9/11 because they couldn't get enough people willing to commit suicide for it. Even then, we already know that terrotist cells use encryption already.
Cats already out of the bag, and I see a bigger risk in industrial espionage from foreign powers abusing the openess of the net (US focus on Germany, China hacking Western R&D/utilities).
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:46:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Bleah, nothing to worry about the Rock. You will keep harrasing our fishermen, scorning our policemen and whiping your ass with the treaty and the worst it will happen will be a telephone call each now and then... Just figure this. A few years ago, the RN whopped and a squadron of Marines accidentally landed on a Spanish beach. The brit PM reaction was to phone the Spanish one to apologyze and that was all. Now, let's say that someday a Spanish squadron of Marines accidentally landed on a beach in Gibraltar... Yea about that, methinks we are overreacting massively as we dispatched a task force with the flagship for "exercises" in the Med.
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.09 21:57:00 -
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Zhula Guixgrixks wrote:I heard, U$ cloud providers already suffer a customer drop of 10%. Profit will push back the U$ towards human rights again We don't care about abuse of US citizens humans rights so much as we do about surrendering intelligence to a rival economic power spying on our industrial secrets.
Besides, liberating the US would be hard work for one.....
baltec1 wrote:Kirjava wrote:Yea about that, methinks we are overreacting massively as we dispatched a task force with the flagship for "exercises" in the Med. Thats aimed at another nation starting with an S But mostly because we have policed the med for the last 200 years and are rather good at keeping it a nice place.
Plausible deniability ^_^
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:33:00 -
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A solution dooes exist from a technical point of view I think. Akin to the Bitcoin chain processing, a massive decentralised encrypted email server. If everyone chipped I say 10gb of storage shared over a continued bittorrent with redundancy so each message was on thousands of computers to access over a tunneled ssl connection.
That makes sense to me on paper, make your own computer part of a massive decentralised effort. It would be slow, inefficient but it would be near impossible to kill.
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.08.10 13:17:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:[ And given how power corrupts, if you assume that politicians have a minor scandal or two in their closets, whoever holds the keys to the NSA data mine potentially has the ability to control a huge number of elected representatives through blackmail and/or character assassination. Anthony Weiner?
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