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Bezdar22
0utLaw. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 07:06:00 -
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today for the first time i have seen isboxing result https://killboard.ncdot.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=366409
then i chek some vdo abt it .. didnt understand why ccp didnt ban it .. this is like some guy commanding all his account in one click rather then using alt tab to every screen and giving command for each account.. CCp need to look into that if they havnt yet . if they did then look again
other wise whats the point keeping 400 slowcat pilot wake for 12 hours in HED_GP .. cuold use ISBOXER to win ....
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Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium Templis CALSF
227
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Posted - 2014.01.24 07:11:00 -
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Nice necro. Here's some cheese for your whine. Arma Purgatorium - For the State, For the King Faction Warfare, PvP, Training
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Bezdar22
0utLaw. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 07:16:00 -
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Morgan Torry wrote:Nice necro. Here's some cheese for your whine.
i m not whinin.. i have better killl then him ... just saying if u use isbox then whats the point playing with other player or joining corp or allience u can just solo form everything .. |
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium Templis CALSF
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Posted - 2014.01.24 08:33:00 -
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Well let me put it this way: This whole thread is about why CCP allows it and that they've consistently been aware of its existence and your whole post was about CCP needing to investigate this and what not. Let people play the game as they so desire. You came out on top, congrats. Arma Purgatorium - For the State, For the King Faction Warfare, PvP, Training
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Bezdar22
0utLaw. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 08:52:00 -
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Morgan Torry wrote:Well let me put it this way: This whole thread is about why CCP allows it and that they've consistently been aware of its existence and your whole post was about CCP needing to investigate this and what not. Let people play the game as they so desire. You came out on top, congrats.
so that means u are good at eve coz u use ISBOXER and i m not coz i dont ??
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Colt Blackhawk
Team Six. The North is Coming
237
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Posted - 2014.01.24 09:39:00 -
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Bezdar22 wrote:Morgan Torry wrote:Well let me put it this way: This whole thread is about why CCP allows it and that they've consistently been aware of its existence and your whole post was about CCP needing to investigate this and what not. Let people play the game as they so desire. You came out on top, congrats. so that means u are good at eve coz u use ISBOXER and i m not coz i dont ??
Welcome in totally broken sh....
You are good in eve when u use ISBOXER and 10 accounts^^
You are good in eve when you s... at solo and use cloaky neutral logi alt instead (lost a vaga to 2 dessies some days ago because of that).
You are good in eve when you use 2 ogb alts and a fit on your main that usually wouldn-¦t work but works great with your links.
You are good in eve when you use loki and neut remote sebo alt plus 2 neut falcon alts on gatecamp....
and so on. Any questions?
CCP broke this game completely for newbies so instead of getting new players they force old players to get more accounts. [09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1171
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Posted - 2014.01.24 09:47:00 -
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Rain6638 wrote:multiboxing is not a function of irl friends. some people live with their friends who all play eve and multibox. Solutio Letum wrote: Ya sure like if you are going to fly 10 BS's without getting noticed by any fleets, a simple pimp bomb would pretty much kill you right there. (a few BS's with smartbombs getting dropped by a Titan bridge)
All you need is anything to get close to you at all, simple ceptors go to ups of 6000m/s, just drop a dead bait run a frig your way drop cyno or warp in BS's. You don't even really need a titan... it does make you look cooler tho.
battleships are played out. but in some predictable, low-risk situations where a hp tank is required such as incursions, a domi gang might happen. otherwise, a bloated sig res and radius combined with slow speeds is not the best option for multiboxing. battleships. most likely hacs. you underestimate your opponent.
It might not be a direct fucntion. But someoen that has a corp where all the mbers are just alts he ISbox.. durely does nto soudn someone that likes to play with friends... And that is sad... "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Bezdar22
0utLaw. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 09:48:00 -
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ytah i agree with some of these .. but what we are talking abt is "giving command to each pilot rather then using soft like isbox
which allow u to use single command for all account .... |
Massina Femalia
Vanu Sovereignty.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:01:00 -
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People have been doing this isboxing/duelboxing pvp thing for ages now but i've never really had too much problem with beating them since they're doing so much at once they can't keep up with the flow of battle half the time.
They're dangerous on gate camps with insta-lock snipers though, your tactics here seem pretty cookie cutter, I approve lol.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
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Posted - 2014.01.24 13:18:00 -
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Nice to see in the OP someone trying to thinks of tactics to defeat another player rather than moan about it :)
Would similar tactics on a larger scale works against the other favourite moan of the moment regarding slowcat/drone assist doctrines?
Perhaps eWar has been overlooked for raw dps for too long... |
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2014.01.24 14:46:00 -
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Call Rollard wrote:With ISBoxer people can multibox entire Incursion fleets. I personally do agree ISBoxer should be bannable since its giving a massive advantage to people and causes EVE to cross onto Pay To Win which it shouldn't be.
People +2B ISK per hour with the ISBoxer incursion fleets I really do agree ISBoxer should be banned.
yeah, ive just restarted incursions and was in a vangard when i saw a fleet of 8 nightmares and 2 logi come in and instablapped everything that was there and now theres an incursion community forming around using isoboxer. |
Ryder 'ook
Die..Brut
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Posted - 2014.01.24 14:56:00 -
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Sometimes I ask myself: Am I the only one in this universe who plays on a single account?
Maybe I'm just too Newb still... Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home. |
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium Templis CALSF
227
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:09:00 -
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Holy cow W&T where did all these shitposters come from.
I said that you win at EVE by playing what you enjoy. if these guys want to pay hundreds of dollars for software to keep up their multiple accounts (which also cost quite a bit) then let them. It is all about what they enjoy. If that's their idea of fun let them have it and beat them at their game. I know of a guy who ISBoxes Vanguards in Nightmares as well. Guess what? ICU and ISN have both contested and beat him on multiple occasions. So they do not have an "instant win" button or anything.
Arma Purgatorium - For the State, For the King Faction Warfare, PvP, Training
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Bezdar22
0utLaw. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:30:00 -
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i have sent a petition to CCP 24 hours ago hasnt got any rely.. but i will wait and see what they has to say
i was just hink if i roam with 5 aslt frig or say zealot using ISBOXING that will be a small size armor hac gang ...
i dont have to ping for ppl to join fleet........ i just just solo it .. what a nice thing ... |
Dalto Bane
Knights of the Posing Meat Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 11:43:00 -
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I am actually glad to see this thread still kicking. I would also like to give kudos to OP for posting this rather than a "Ban ISBoxer" thread. Now, I am a strong supporter of ISBoxer, as anyone can see from my history of post. I will not reiterate my pros and cons, but will like to say that I would much rather see people multiboxing six accounts with ISBoxer, than botting with three. I can map keys with any third party software, and as long as it requires a keystroke, then all is fine. That in all honesty is not why I use ISBoxer though. I use it primarily because of the fps throttle it has for active and inactive windows. My computer can more than handle it, but my latency can not. Of course the question comes up to why I need more than one account? Why does anyone need more than one account?
Maybe because I am a socially ********, fedora wearing autist that hates people, or maybe I like the fact that at any given time, I can do exactly what I want, without pinging the entire world to hopefully log on and do what I want to do when I want to do it when I can log my accounts and do it without objection. Whatever the reason, its my reason, and its my isk/money that pays for it. If people spent more time worried about their own accounts instead of others, they would be better at Eve and could easily deal with a multiboxer, ISBoxer or not. "Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep." |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:07:00 -
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Ryder 'ook wrote:Sometimes I ask myself: Am I the only one in this universe who plays on a single account?
Maybe I'm just too Newb still...
There are some of us creeping around :D
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Skelee VI
Wraithguard. Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.01.29 21:05:00 -
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I run into one in my area. First off he is a good pilot so that makes it hard. He has run perfect bombing runs on us a few times. We have killed him but not as much as I would like. The fiercest I have seen is the 8 caracals or domis. On top of that he has an awesome prober, finds ships fast and even cloaky ones :) I don't mind a dual boxer, or a gang but one guy with isboxer, dont seem right. Try getting 6 sb;s pilots to do what he does in unison.
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Jill Chastot
Oath of the Forsaken
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Posted - 2014.01.30 01:42:00 -
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Rain6638 wrote:EVE is designed to promote multiplayer, and I say this based on the fact that remote assistance is more efficient than local modules. every slot you use for reps, cap, sensor strength, tackle... detracts from the potential of your ship, and is better accomplished with another ship that has the related role bonus(es). You use this to your advantage by having those extra ships. When you consider faction vs T2 vs T3 with this in mind, you begin to see that increased hull cost is a premium you pay for trying to do so much with 1 character/hull. I still don't think you understand. I use recons, too, and they're boosted. //have you seen this? http://i.imgur.com/Bq0ITNW.jpg
Nice setup :P https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=298596&find=unreadOATHS wants you. Come to the WH |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.03 02:01:00 -
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Ryder 'ook wrote:Sometimes I ask myself: Am I the only one in this universe who plays on a single account?
Maybe I'm just too Newb still...
I do, 1 character, 1 account.
Besides the forums alts ofc. Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC |
Joan Greywind
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
315
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Posted - 2014.02.03 04:15:00 -
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Bezdar22 wrote:i have sent a petition to CCP 24 hours ago hasnt got any rely.. but i will wait and see what they has to say
i was just hink if i roam with 5 aslt frig or say zealot using ISBOXING that will be a small size armor hac gang ...
i dont have to ping for ppl to join fleet........ i just just solo it .. what a nice thing ...
Shouldn't you busy with some other things? Like moving your ishtar and proteus to caldari lowsec? I heard they are kick ass against merlins and bursts. |
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Druadan
Druadan's Free Company
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:13:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:Ryder 'ook wrote:Sometimes I ask myself: Am I the only one in this universe who plays on a single account?
Maybe I'm just too Newb still... I do, 1 character, 1 account. Besides the forums alts ofc.
Same. I can't believe I've come back to the game after all this time and this is what's going on. I suppose the maxim of 2013 is the mantra of 2008 still: CCP won't do anything if it results in lower subscriber income, regardless of how good it is for the game. |
Brink Albosa
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:02:00 -
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Fly drunk, fly Rifters |
Infinity Ziona
Drags are Bud
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:19:00 -
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I use ISBoxer for Stealth Bombers. The key to winning is simplicity. I tried using them to tackle orbit torpedo but it's extremely difficult given you need to use overview and have every bomber do the same thing on overview when the overview changes quite dynamically.
I disagree that damping ECM prevents reacqusition of targets. If you lock a target with ISBOXER while other clients have lock it will still work.
What you want to do is try to screw up the overview. Get in close, get out to range, web a target, drop a can.
Having said that I'm only really going to use my SB to bomb from now on. I have trained them into Drakes which are another ship which has minimal babysitting. Sit in one place and spam missiles. Anything more complex IMO is going to present problems.
One more thing if they're using broadcast to control their team the above won't work. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
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Posted - 2014.02.13 11:03:00 -
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So dropping cans will act like chaff/flares against an isbox setup? I have mental images of people carrying 2000 tritanium in single increments in their holds now...jettison...jettison...jettison...
Actually a module to that effect might not be so bad, takes 'decoy'; ammo and dumps out lots of drones that have similar sig radius (through light reflective surfaces, radar return amplification etc). Might allow for some interesting gate camp tactics...let arriving fleets muddy the field of battle a bit and get into some semblance of attck formation before being hammered...
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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1671
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Posted - 2014.02.13 12:46:00 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:So dropping cans will act like chaff/flares against an isbox setup? I have mental images of people carrying 2000 tritanium in single increments in their holds now...jettison...jettison...jettison...
Actually a module to that effect might not be so bad, takes 'decoy'; ammo and dumps out lots of drones that have similar sig radius (through light reflective surfaces, radar return amplification etc). Might allow for some interesting gate camp tactics...let arriving fleets muddy the field of battle a bit and get into some semblance of attck formation before being hammered...
Not really but if any of their overviews have cans or other objects that aren't on their other overviews it'll completely screw up targeting, orbiting etc.
And if they're basing overview in distance getting in real close will mess things ups.
I put mine on name sorted now so usually all overviews are identical. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Skelee VI
Wraithguard. Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:19:00 -
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There is goon isboxer running around and he is a very capable pilot I think he has more going than isboxer. something is smelling fishy. He did 2 perfect bombing runs under 3 mins apart with our fleet warping around, with no probes on scan? He has bombed some claoky ships at safes. I really think he'd make an awesome pilot but I really have lost respect for him with his isboxer stuff. Odd he plays alone when in goons! How much of a loser you have to be when goons won't fly with you. If normal guys setup that bomb run I would have total respect in my death but using isboxer, meh
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Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd.
4
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:14:00 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:So dropping cans will act like chaff/flares against an isbox setup? I have mental images of people carrying 2000 tritanium in single increments in their holds now...jettison...jettison...jettison...
Actually a module to that effect might not be so bad, takes 'decoy'; ammo and dumps out lots of drones that have similar sig radius (through light reflective surfaces, radar return amplification etc). Might allow for some interesting gate camp tactics...let arriving fleets muddy the field of battle a bit and get into some semblance of attack formation before being hammered...
You could call the module the Server Crasher 2000.
As for overview messing up an ISboxer, if you're relying on sorting by distance you're going to get screwed. You should always be broadcasting targets and targeting off the broadcasts. Then the overview won't cause you problems. Nothing quite like having your alts raining hell on each other instead of the enemy.
I'm a proponent of cycling ecm across their whole fleet, using sensor damps, sure it won't stop them forever, but it'll make their life a little more chaotic. Doesn't really hurt the targeting, but it does screw up the gun cycling if they are using F1. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. |
Shitty Shitty Pants
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:36:00 -
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As someone who runs 15-20 characters in combat fleets, I can attest that the best way to screw up a multibox fleet is to spend a bit of time recognizign their strategy first and foremost.
The multiboxer cannot run complex setups and as such has limited strategies that are easy to pick out.
I originally listed a few examples in this post, but I have now edited it out on account of not wanting to screw myself over by giving you scrubs any good tips |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
1008
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Posted - 2014.03.14 03:55:00 -
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****** Shitty Pants wrote:I originally listed a few examples in this post, but I have now edited it out on account of not wanting to screw myself over by giving you scrubs any good tips
I am sure you do not know anything most of us 'scrubs' don't already know.
Why post on an alt if you are so knowledgeable?
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
Batelle
HOMELE55
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Posted - 2014.03.14 15:58:00 -
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anomaly income scales extremely well with multiple accounts. I don't have enough accounts to make the actual program worth my while, but I don't really see the difference between managing two toons in one anomaly and 2-4 toons each in their own anomaly. Isboxer maybe lets you do the second version a bit easier, and helps you scale up if you're doing more than that. I think people are confusing the inherent ease of managing certain ships and activities and mislabeling it as isboxer-enabled automation. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
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