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Papa Beatas
Priori of Sion
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Posted - 2013.08.15 10:35:00 -
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Lately I've had some experience on the theme of exploration, I have been robbed several times in the Cosmic Signature by other players who take advantage of all the work of a player who makes a complex of 5 Pockets and end sees all his effort being stolen by other players, not fair, it would be fair to the player who finds the anomaly after entering that same anomaly, not allowed to enter other players and steal the domination or other stufs.
I wonder if the DEV going to do some change in the game related to these? |
Craggus
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.08.15 10:36:00 -
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Tbh.... Welcome to Eve! |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
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Posted - 2013.08.15 11:09:00 -
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Work faster Find quieter space Join em (as in, do the same thing yourself)
The loot's not yours until it's in your cargohold (or even until it's in your hanger in station) |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
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Posted - 2013.08.15 11:13:00 -
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Papa Beatas wrote: Lately I've had some experience on the theme of exploration, I have been robbed several times in the Cosmic Signature by other players who take advantage of all the work of a player who makes a complex of 5 Pockets and end sees all his effort being stolen by other players, not fair, it would be fair to the player who finds the anomaly after entering that same anomaly, not allowed to enter other players and steal the domination or other stufs.
I wonder if the DEV going to do some change in the game related to these?
They are public sigs, intended to be public so that contention can occur. its the way eve works.
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Dorrann
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.15 14:38:00 -
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Its never nice to be the victim of this but it is how EVE operates and isnt likely to change.
Your only defence from this is to clear the sites faster to reduce the risk, or run the sites in Brawler setups so that you are sitting on top of the Pinata when it pops and so have the best chance of scooping the loot.
Generally, I try to be nice about it when i (rarely now) run sites, but very other people will choose to move on when theres a potential several hundred million in loot on the line.
Sucks, but thats the nature of the player base. Not EVE, just the players. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1339
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Posted - 2013.08.15 15:05:00 -
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if you do not like being outplayed, you have two options: 1. play better. 2. play another game.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:08:00 -
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Go to Low/Null and explore there, then you'll have more to worry about then "your loot" and you'll understand how much of a wuss you sound like.
Where does it say anything about the game being fair?
It's a PVP game, compete or don't play. |
Orlacc
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:37:00 -
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There are lots of low sec systems with no one in them. Go there. Otherwise buck up and be prepared to get ripped off. "Measure Twice, Cut Once." |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:48:00 -
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This will never be changed. Exploration sites, even in high sec, are conflict drivers. You really are going up against everyone else who wants what's in the site and knows the site is there. That's the nature of the game. |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
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Posted - 2013.08.20 10:35:00 -
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Papa Beatas wrote: Lately I've had some experience on the theme of exploration, I have been robbed several times in the Cosmic Signature by other players who take advantage of all the work of a player who makes a complex of 5 Pockets and end sees all his effort being stolen by other players, not fair, it would be fair to the player who finds the anomaly after entering that same anomaly, not allowed to enter other players and steal the domination or other stufs.
I wonder if the DEV going to do some change in the game related to these? no, multi gate plex are already so protected, you cannot warpin on the ship you scanned 100%, you land on the first plex gate you canot cyno / covert cyno in
a cloacky will be on short dscan at least once, giving you plenty of time to gtfo.
all this make running such plex 100% safe, and you want more safety? like really? if you don't feel safe in those, then l2p, or maybe lowsec is not for you |
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dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.20 11:57:00 -
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Papa Beatas wrote: ... sees all his effort being stolen by other players, not fair ...
What do you think you are playing World of Warcraft?, this is eve online and you better just leave or get use to the game not being fair. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Higgs Foton
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.20 14:15:00 -
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Papa Beatas wrote: Lately I've had some experience on the theme of exploration, I have been robbed several times in the Cosmic Signature by other players who take advantage of all the work of a player who makes a complex of 5 Pockets and end sees all his effort being stolen by other players, not fair, it would be fair to the player who finds the anomaly after entering that same anomaly, not allowed to enter other players and steal the domination or other stufs.
I wonder if the DEV going to do some change in the game related to these?
I do my plexing mainly in null sec, but sometimes when i cj-ed to high sec to get me new skillbooks, i do a round of high sec exploration. And indeed, i do steal complexes from people. For me a high sec plex is fair game. A null sec plex in my alliance space is a different ballgame. You dont **** over alliance mates. Neutral high sec characters, however, are a completely different matter. If someone is in a plex and i can get to the overseer first, i go for it. Mostly its people struggling to kill off all the spawns while i can go directly for the overseer, pop him, loot him, and are off in warp again. If the drop is good i also link it in local. :D
That being said, i also had it happen other people steal the loot when i am running the plex myself. Does not happen much, but if it does its just too bad. This is how eve works. Sometimes you cash, sometimes you lose.
As for tips to make this happen rarely: Make sure your skills,fits and the ships you fly are such you can run the plex FAST. For instance: The Angel Watch can be run in under 10 minutes (warp in, shoot all communications officers, kill final comm officer, warp in next room, shoot factory, burn for the military commander, pop him, get possible escalation/faction spawn) if your ship can tank all the spawns simultaniously. This was easy in a T3, but since they changed that a faction/T2/Pirate ship will do as well. I am now doing some high sec stuff in a Cynabal, and that works nicely as well. I also have an Ishtar and Gila handy for this.
Make sure you know your ships, know your fits, know the triggers and dont waste any time on doing more then the bare minimum to get the overseer/escalation and people will rarely get the opportunity to steal your plex.
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No Homo
Big Heart Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.21 15:01:00 -
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Papa Beatas wrote: I wonder if the DEV going to do some change in the game related to these?
Hopefully we'll be seeing instancing for pve related stuff soon. |
No Homo
Big Heart Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.21 15:01:00 -
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-No Homo. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.08.21 15:43:00 -
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No Homo wrote:Papa Beatas wrote: I wonder if the DEV going to do some change in the game related to these?
Hopefully we'll be seeing instancing for pve related stuff soon.
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