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Fal Shepard
The Order Of Dragon Fire NVL Aurora
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Posted - 2013.08.18 01:03:00 -
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I've been online for nearly a month, and I cant find an easy way to make isk. I tried mining, freighting, and selling, but none of them have earned me much. How have most players made their fortune without buying Plex? I will freight your cargo to and from anywhere between 1.0 and 0.5, below .5 costs a little more however... |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.18 01:17:00 -
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well, there are missions, there is ratting.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Solai
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:03:00 -
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Mining gets better as you streamline the operation with friends. And of course there's the improvements from a bit more sp and a bit better mining ship. But mining isn't for me. It's steady and reliable, but it does not scale well.
Missions are indeed an effective way to make isk, but not at first. It's in the L4's, and by cashing in on LP items. Or so I'm told. You won't see me running 'em. Too repetitive for my taste.
Exploration has lately become a lot more lucrative. It might not seem so at first, when all you get is a handful of salvage and scrap. But every now and then, you hit the jackpot. It's a numbers game; the more you do it it, the more often you hit jackpot items, making it a good option. Me, I don't like it; I don't like the minigame, and I don't like the slot-machine jackpot payout.
Manufacture and industry has a lot of potential. It takes a lot of investment of SP, though, and a lot of attention to details, and a bit of bookkeeping. But the ISK investment, SP requirements, and competition keeps me away.
And then there's trading. It requires time, in order to build knowledge and experience, and it requires a willingness to put in extra work on bookkeeping and spreadsheeting. But there is nothing that pays better. Since I started trading, I stopped all my other ISK activities. Don't need em.
No matter what you go with, bare in mind that everything sucks at first, and doesn't work very well. Time, experience, and diligence are the things that make the ISK start to flow. Just keep going.
Jolly Codgers corp - Bloodthirsty old men of Null-Sec. -á PVP and organizational excellence through maturity, for pilots age 30+. |
Fal Shepard
The Order Of Dragon Fire NVL Aurora
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:56:00 -
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Solai wrote:Mining gets better as you streamline the operation with friends. And of course there's the improvements from a bit more sp and a bit better mining ship. But mining isn't for me. It's steady and reliable, but it does not scale well.
Missions are indeed an effective way to make isk, but not at first. It's in the L4's, and by cashing in on LP items. Or so I'm told. You won't see me running 'em. Too repetitive for my taste.
Exploration has lately become a lot more lucrative. It might not seem so at first, when all you get is a handful of salvage and scrap. But every now and then, you hit the jackpot. It's a numbers game; the more you do it it, the more often you hit jackpot items, making it a good option. Me, I don't like it; I don't like the minigame, and I don't like the slot-machine jackpot payout.
Manufacture and industry has a lot of potential. It takes a lot of investment of SP, though, and a lot of attention to details, and a bit of bookkeeping. But the ISK investment, SP requirements, and competition keeps me away.
And then there's trading. It requires time, in order to build knowledge and experience, and it requires a willingness to put in extra work on bookkeeping and spreadsheeting. But there is nothing that pays better. Since I started trading, I stopped all my other ISK activities. Don't need em.
No matter what you go with, bare in mind that everything sucks at first, and doesn't work very well. Time, experience, and diligence are the things that make the ISK start to flow. Just keep going.
Well, when I was freighting something for someone, i came across a downed ship that had two Captial Turret hardpoint blue prints, so I guess that kinda is Exploration.But havent had much luck since then. What kind of missions do you mean? I will freight your cargo to and from anywhere between 1.0 and 0.5, below .5 costs a little more however... |
MadMuppet
Kashada Keiretsu
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Posted - 2013.08.18 04:19:00 -
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Mission agents come in several flavors, but the three basic ones are:
Mining - "go mine some rocks, gas, or ice and I will reward you isk and LP" Distribution - "Go to A and pick up and item and bring it to B for isk and LP" Security - "Go shoot someone for us and we'll give you isk and LP"
The fourth agent type is a 'storyline agent' which will email you for a mission every 16 mission complteted of the same level and the same faction. These are worth doing becuase they often reward an item (Level 4 missions often reward a 20-30 million isk implant)
R&D agents are another type and require a significant skill training to use. I would recommend researching them seperately and look for information less than a year old. they used to be a 'cash cow' but they are nowhere near as profitable now.
When docked, in the middle of hte right hand menu you will see an agent finder button you can use to help find the variosu agents.
Missions come in five basic difficulties. Level 1 are fairly simple missions intended for Frigates and Destroyers Level 2 are harder and are generally for cruisers (or skilled destroyer operators) Level 3 missions are geared towards a battlecruiser Level 4 missions are geared towards battleships and require care things can go wrong easiy (the rats use ewar and the damage can be severe, you should read up the mission before beginning here: http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=missionreports
Level 5 mission are only found in low-sec or null and usually require a small group of players.
Running a mission combined with going back and salvaging it can net a significant sum of isk. (make sure to bookmark a wreck in each area after you kill everything so you can fly back to it after you turn in the mission or you won't find it). I mine in EVE because I'm too drunk to fish in WoW.-á |
Solai
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2013.08.18 07:09:00 -
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Ah, yes, salvaging. Forgot about that. That's how I got my first bil. But it's dependent on a lot of factors, one of which is the quality of space you're in. Null-sec is the best. And if you can land yourself into a null-sec corp, you'll have access to a lot more money-making opportunities.
Jolly Codgers corp - Bloodthirsty old men of Null-Sec. -á PVP and organizational excellence through maturity, for pilots age 30+. |
Praxis Ginimic
Dark Knight Legion The Hydra Confederacy
446
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Posted - 2013.08.18 08:31:00 -
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1. No one mentioned scams. Scamming requires creativity, out of the box thinking, patience and a good sense of when to strike and when to walk away. It's not for everyone but those who are good at it make billions.
2. Probably more important. It's not about the ISK. Honestly, if you can put 50 million aside at a time then you are golden. People talk about making hundreds of millions per hour but that's not fun, that is work and this is a game. Just make friends and make sure you have enough to replace a T2 fit, T1 cruiser or battle cruiser. Don't grind. There is no need for grinding and billion space-buck ships in order to have fun. |
Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
75
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Posted - 2013.08.18 09:25:00 -
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Faction Warfare is making me more ISK than is costs me to replace ships. And that's when my primary reason for being in FW is for the PvP. I could probably earn ISK faster, or at least lose less ships, if I focused more on the farming ISK.
Give this a read to start. |
Kyra Quinn
We Are Really Scary
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:15:00 -
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Exploration has made me very rich to a point where isk (and value, for that matter) becomes meaningless and a pointless goal. The adventures of a newbie: http://kyraquinn.wordpress.com/ |
Sabriz Adoudel
Oppan Ganknam Style
649
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:22:00 -
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By far the most profitable thing a new player can do is join corporations and ransom their more expensive ships. (You can legally shoot your corpmates at any time, and if you fit for PVP and they are fit for mining or mission running, the skillpoint gap won't be much of an issue). This is called 'AWOX piracy'.
I know people who have scored over a billion ISK in ransoms on characters with under eight hours of skill training.
Scamming is also profitable, but the better scams require some capital behind you.
Another option is to do veiled begging (and this works for experienced players too). While in a large NPC corp, post a fairly bad fit that uses super-budget modules and ask for advice on improving it, then when people suggest replacing your meta 2 warp scram with a meta 4 one, say you can't afford it 'because the Thorax hull was all your ISK'. This is a form of scamming that can make you a bit of ISK. You can also whine about being ganked and link a lossmail of a Venture or similar that you lose in a (staged) dual in highsec. Miner euthanization expert. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. |
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Luke Jeschamin
Order of Paradox
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Posted - 2013.08.18 13:15:00 -
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Security missions can be lucrative. Blast the NPC, loot the wreck, tractor in the salvage, collect the bounty. It works pretty well.
Try the SOE arc, that is a great way to build up your ISK and experience as well. |
Kyseth
Touring New Eden
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:54:00 -
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I believe this might help. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:51:00 -
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Fal Shepard wrote:I've been online for nearly a month, and I cant find an easy way to make isk. I tried mining, freighting, and selling, but none of them have earned me much. How have most players made their fortune without buying Plex?
This is a week in a Retriever which really doesn't take that long to train for. Not amazing, but it covers your acct for the month and gives you the other three weeks to do something a little less mind numbingly boring.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3979
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Posted - 2013.08.19 05:56:00 -
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Check the Making ISK guide for some ideas. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
James Hakkar
Pro Synergy
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Posted - 2013.08.19 11:06:00 -
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Salvaging is one of the best ways to efficiently earn a lot of ISK for a new player. For the older players there is a lot if choices, but a new guy can do a bit of mining or missions, but doing lvl 1 or lvl 2 missions is not really that profitable. Same can be said for mining, sure it's steady income but it's not really high-income.
Want to earn a lot-áof money as a new player?-áJoin channel: Pro Synergy Salvage the leftovers from veteran missioners and get paid in large amounts.-á
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
642
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Posted - 2013.08.19 11:30:00 -
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I'd advise you leave behind the idea of "easy" ISK making. The easier, low-risk income streams simply yield less reward then those that involve risk and effort. What kind of risk is entirely contextual but to keep it simple: the more risk / effort involved the better the income, at least that's the general design idea. Think of it rather as finding an appropriate income stream, something that supports whatever you wish to sink your ISK into. Once you find something you really like, specialize in it by improving your completion times and managing risk. It also helps to have "relaxed" and "intensive" income streams. For instance ratting around a lowsec POS is something I consider mildly intensive, but less so then running DED sites that might potentially yield expensive faction loot. |
Bloemkoolsaus
Viperfleet Inc. Transmission Lost
83
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Posted - 2013.08.19 11:47:00 -
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Fal Shepard wrote:I've been online for nearly a month, and I cant find an easy way to make isk. I tried mining, freighting, and selling, but none of them have earned me much. How have most players made their fortune without buying Plex?
I make that kind of money pretty easy by station trading. I spend about 30 minutes a day doing this and it makes me a plex a month easy. Just create an extra character on your account, have him train trade skills for a bit, select a trade hub system and there you go (I would not recommend jita, it's to busy).
Google for `eveonline station trading` and you'll find lot's of articles to help you get underway. It might take a while to actually make a profit from it though as you'll need to learn how the market swings back and forth.
However, as some have also pointed out already, I think the `I need to earn a plex every month so i can play free` is the wrong approach. It'll make eve feel like work. Play the game first (doing whatever you like), then if as a result of that you make enough to buy a plex then great, if you don't you still had a good time doing whatever you did (wich is what a game is about right?) |
Sabriz Adoudel
Oppan Ganknam Style
655
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Posted - 2013.08.20 07:08:00 -
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James Hakkar wrote:Salvaging is one of the best ways to efficiently earn a lot of ISK for a new player. For the older players there is a lot if choices, but a new guy can do a bit of mining or missions, but doing lvl 1 or lvl 2 missions is not really that profitable. Same can be said for mining, sure it's steady income but it's not really high-income.
Yeah other than AWOX piracy, salvaging is probably your best bet. It's a LOT less profitable than backstabbing is, however. Miner euthanization expert. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. |
Balaster McNugget
Rotten Core Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.20 19:50:00 -
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Or.. you could Balaster the buddy system! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3510006#post3510006 |
AnnaSeliya Saisima
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.08.21 05:07:00 -
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Mining alone is not efficient,you'd better fleet up with your friend and it will become quicker.... And it's always a hard time as a newbie.so just keep what you are doing . there will be a day that you can earn more ISK |
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Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Break-A-Wish Foundation
2318
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Posted - 2013.08.21 05:13:00 -
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WarDecs...
People pay good isk to not have their ships popped.
Those that refuse to pay... they loose a bill or 6 then they pay. Either by the drops from their ships or for you to go away. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Anne McDonald
Blood5hed
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Posted - 2013.09.02 06:40:00 -
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Everyone has different ways to isk in eve and everyone believes their way is king but no one will share their secrets with you in a game where knowledge is most certainly power.
Do some research look at what you might enjoy be it in eyes of the 'good' like mining industry or mission running or in the eyes of 'evil' and pirate pillage scam and gank innocent victims and soak yourself in the tears of the weak. EVE has no lines no defined rules or goals do something you like and there should be a way you can make the isk! |
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