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Khashour
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.21 04:43:00 -
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No one ever uses flux coils becuse the negative effect is too great. Faction and deadspace flux coils would b great too. Also capacitor power relays...the officer ones should have less of an effect to go with the trend...right now faction have the lowest negative shield boost amount.
Sorry if this seems like a ***** and moan. Just an observation |
Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2013.08.21 08:41:00 -
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With the new changes to NOS flux coils might be slightly more useful. |
Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:10:00 -
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Agreed. I think I have not ever used a cap flux coil, because I hardly ever need a ship to be cap stable. With a flux coil do my ships just runs out of energy faster than it produces new energy.
The CPU requirement of the Capacitor Flux Coil also seems unbalanced when compared to modules like Power Diagnostic Systems, Capacitor Power Relay and Cap Recharger, which all need less CPU to fit. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:53:00 -
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Yep, as I've already mentioned the Cap Flux coil could make for some interesting decisions IF you wanted to run on a capacitor that would seem appropriate for a smaller vessel, but recharged so quickly that your larger ship could function. The applications for NOS are obvious, and I hate useless items in game.
This would be one way to ease the concerns of people who believe large NOS will never be used. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Sigras
Conglomo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:31:00 -
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It would be interesting to say double or triple the effect of the flux coil, so it would reduce your max cap by 35% but increase your cap recharge by 75%
This would result in a 13.75% increase in cap recharge amount (up from the current 13.4%) but would work very well with the new NOS mechanic.
You could even go further and give it -60% max cap and +200% cap regeneration which would really only be 20% extra cap regen.
Thoughts? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:12:00 -
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Ideally it would put (for example) a BS raw cap amount down somewhere in the range of a cruisers raw cap amount, but that might be pushing it. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Sigras
Conglomo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 21:19:00 -
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Well the problem with that would be, to give a dominix the cap regen of a cruiser you'd need to nerf its cap by like 70% meaning you'd need to buff its cap regen by around 400% to come out with 20% more cap recharge.
The issue would be that youd end up with 2250 cap, and a LAAR takes 400 cap to use, a MWD takes almost 600 cap to use. you'd cap yourself out far too quickly to be of any use in a fight even if you did have NOS running . . . maybe a brick tanked Armageddon with nos and neuts only ever needing to run an MWD to catch its target? that would be interesting actually.
Personally it would be cool if the T1 was -35% cap amount and +75% regen and the T2 was -70% cap +300% cap regen
This would provide the granularity that you'd be looking for in a setup like this. |
Nero Pantera
Whale Girth Disavowed.
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Posted - 2013.08.24 04:39:00 -
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Put a full rack of flux coils in the lows and it does nothing but nuke your cap. Fix please. |
Cade Windstalker
Donohue Enterprises Ad-Astra
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Posted - 2013.08.24 07:27:00 -
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Cap Power Relays aren't in a bad spot so much as they're rarely needed. They're effectively low-slot Cap Rechargers for armor ships.
Flux Coils on the other hand are a bit meh. Would be cool to see some kind of NOS/NEUT effect considered though, and the synergy between lowering your max capacitor and a NOS has potential. |
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2013.08.24 08:27:00 -
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They are mostly under powered unless fitted on caps/supers where regen is king. |
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300 jews
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.24 20:27:00 -
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Yes and fitting cap flux coils on a capital isnt worth it cuz the thing its designed to promote actually makes it worse. As for the -shield boost amount. Kinda lame an armor tank archon don't get a -armor bonus for cap rechargers but a chimera gets -shield amount bonus. Shield repping is more powerful in my opinion but the -boost amount should be less on officer mods. faction cap rechargers should be -21 % to follow the trend as well. |
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