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Edwin McAlister
Interstellar Engineering and Electronics INC
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Posted - 2013.08.21 21:29:00 -
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What ever happened with the metacide...
some meta 4 items better then tech 2 meta 5 items
2 examples I can think of are ...
Target Painter II vs Phase Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Mining Laser Upgrade II vs Aoede Mining Laser Upgrade
Are there more??
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.21 21:56:00 -
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Fozzie has mentioned it, essentially the answer is that its on the list of things to do but lower down the priority list than ship hull balancing. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Ellendras Silver
Honestly We didnt know
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Posted - 2013.08.21 22:03:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Fozzie has mentioned it, essentially the answer is that its on the list of things to do but lower down the priority list than ship hull balancing.
maybe so but it could be easily fixed or improved (it could be rebalanced later) just switch stats of all T2 mods that are worse with the meta 4 |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.08.21 22:10:00 -
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Edwin McAlister wrote:Are there more??
Oh yes. Many. Please search on the topic.
What exactly would you have done here?
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Edwin McAlister
Interstellar Engineering and Electronics INC
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Posted - 2013.08.22 01:47:00 -
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was more a curiosity on my part, did do a search, came up with some, but didn't want to spend hours reading thru em all...
just curious as to if I had missed any posts about this topic as well, I was quite sure it was mentioned in the past, but seems to be buried so far back as to be ancient history
thanks for the update on what Fozzie said |
WarFireV
EveCorporation12315533 Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.22 02:25:00 -
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Forcing people to actually having to read stats, and figure things out is terrible. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.22 04:27:00 -
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Does it really add to the game to have so many meta levels between tech 1 and tech 2? I don't think so. |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.22 07:30:00 -
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Edwin McAlister wrote: Mining Laser Upgrade II vs Aoede Mining Laser Upgrade
I don't really think this one is a problem
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.08.22 08:05:00 -
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Knowledge is power. Please leave it. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
elitatwo
Congregatio
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Posted - 2013.08.22 09:42:00 -
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Louis Robichaud wrote:Does it really add to the game to have so many meta levels between tech 1 and tech 2? I don't think so.
Meta stuff can be collected with belt ratting and tech2 has to be manufactured.
If you have a boat the has 4 less cpu points to fit a tech2 scram, you might want to take a meta one. FB_Addon_TelNo{height:15px !important;white-space: nowrap !important;background-color: #0ff0ff;} |
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Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2013.08.22 09:52:00 -
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Also to fix... COSMOS, Faction, Deadpace, Officer and many more useless modules! Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |
Aplier Shivra
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:01:00 -
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Nosferatu modules, exact same stats except for T2 requiring higher fitting. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.23 05:46:00 -
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elitatwo wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote:Does it really add to the game to have so many meta levels between tech 1 and tech 2? I don't think so. Meta stuff can be collected with belt ratting and tech2 has to be manufactured. If you have a boat the has 4 less cpu points to fit a tech2 scram, you might want to take a meta one.
Oh I think it's good that we have meta levels... I'm just not sure we need 4. |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.08.23 06:35:00 -
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Louis Robichaud wrote:elitatwo wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote:Does it really add to the game to have so many meta levels between tech 1 and tech 2? I don't think so. Meta stuff can be collected with belt ratting and tech2 has to be manufactured. If you have a boat the has 4 less cpu points to fit a tech2 scram, you might want to take a meta one. Oh I think it's good that we have meta levels... I'm just not sure we need 4.
depending on mod there can be several small differences in them. Granted small but it can add up depending on goal(s) in mind.
Also look at this way, several meta's almost the same creates competiion on markets. Keeps the pvp cheaper since one meta seller can't gouge for price when another meta seller jsut a hair off in stats is doing 50% discount. Of it they gouge anyway...buy the cheaper one.
Rest of this my usual don't hate the meta, hate the sellers. They price to sell, people like me take them up on their kind offer. Extra minutes in eft can save isk and may find a better fit. And as always have the skills to use t2 anyway. Got the skill...don't matter what the name of the gear you are using is. Unless guns ofc, about the only thing I generally follow t2 or fail fit rules on. At least for pvp. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2013.08.23 07:12:00 -
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I like these quirks. It's not as if the info and bonuses they give, are not available. I understood the need to tiercide, but let's not make Eve too boring and predictable shall we please.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:42:00 -
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Mag's wrote:I like these quirks. It's not as if the info and bonuses they give, are not available. I understood the need to tiercide, but let's not make Eve too boring and predictable shall we please.
this.
I like the variety as well. Even a mix up of basic meta gear at least makes vanilla rifter have some variety in the vanilla. I'll take french vanilla rfiter as it were even if its only scram a over scram B or web b over web c.
Besides, its eve. Eve is all about the out of game stuff as well in game, the metagame. May as well make that meta more literal with some liberal use of eft(or other tool of choice) and playing with meta gear in eft. |
TeeKay Latef
BINFORD Umbrella Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.23 10:24:00 -
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T2 should start at meta 1 again. Or at recent state, have no meta level at all. But for some odd reason it was set to meta 5.
So ppl go "oh this number is greater than that... it MUST be better by default" and keep bragging about it.
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