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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.08.22 17:54:00 -
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Forbes
Interesting, issue a secure login to all citizens to access Government materials and services on the internet, akin to the Social Security number. Apparently this system is used in Canada and the UK is considering it. What with the current Twitter controversy in the papers over Trolls, and fear of hackers (so lets trust the government to keep login details secure).
Logicically the best usage from may be to require a secure login though these services to access the internet, thus compelling an endpoint identification. For your security and freedom, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
2074
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Posted - 2013.08.22 17:58:00 -
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I'm still waiting for the whole bar code on the neck deal. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.08.22 18:01:00 -
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QR code on your wrist/fingertip seems more likely to be honest, you can embed a key in there up to 3000bit.
Why I've got business cards with my public email key on the back, modern equivalent of putting post in an envelope really.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 18:23:00 -
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The UK already has something partially in place, and it works about as well as can be expected for a government IT project, poorly implemented, contracted out to 3rd parties and way way too expensive.
Universal Jobmatch (meant to be voluntary, in practice mandatory if you're unemployed, and they gave the contract to Monster.com, who tbh have f'ked it up more than the government ever could) and DVLA are already using a scheme called Government Gateway which issues you with a 12 digit ID number that's required to access more in-depth services such as driving licence renewals, applying for social security benefits etc.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Kurfin
Kippers and Jam Developments
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Posted - 2013.08.22 18:41:00 -
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Being in the UK this won't affect me quite yet, but meh. Tying all your governmental/public body internet needs under one user name and password seems handy too me, also same login details for bank account, bonus. It's not like between various government departments, they don't know where I live, what I drive, martial status and income. And if they wanted to pull it all together, they could already.
The more website that use it the greater the chance of a breach of the open everything password, but most of us only use a small handful of ids and passwords anyway. And it's optional, So again meh.
They have the capability to look at whatever we do online anyway, it's not an issue unless you are in the habit of making death threats on twitter or being the partner of a Guardian journalist.
As it stands I can openly question the motives and legality of detaining aforementioned partner of a Guardian journalist at Heathrow, I can state the opinion that the government are bunch of untrustworthy, cretinous b*stards, whose talents are more suited to second hand car sales people. And if it become the case in my life time that I am not free to criticize the state, sod the internet, I will be marching though London with a placard, no doubt with thousands of others being really f*cking angry. Freedom functioned before the internet |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
32351
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Posted - 2013.08.22 18:46:00 -
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True, and freedom might disconnect from the internet.
Now imagine that the government in future has tax issues with internet companies as to where they have to tax. How might they apply a login code to determine traffic, meter adverts supplied and write laws to the effect that to transmit said adverts within network.
Essentially, doing this would solve the tax issue with residency for Google, Amazon and the like by having a copy of it all through packet monitoring and mandated networking, its what I'd do.
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Kurfin
Kippers and Jam Developments
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Posted - 2013.08.22 18:57:00 -
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The tax international companies pay, or rather don't pay, is down to accounting trickery, not an internet issue. Companies with physical stores, and little/no online sales, for example Starbucks, can still move their profits to low tax jurisdictions. It's a change in international law required to solve that little problem. |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
32351
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Posted - 2013.08.22 18:59:00 -
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Moving towards that at the moment, as it stands the EU is losing out on revenue and it wants its due, it's probably going to be a big component of TAFTA negotiations.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
12257
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Posted - 2013.08.22 23:58:00 -
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Kurfin wrote:I can state the opinion that the government are bunch of untrustworthy, cretinous b*stards, whose talents are more suited to second hand car sales people. That's pushing it, second hand car dealers would be better than the toffee nosed Eton and Harrow cretins who have no idea how the other half lives.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
53779
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:10:00 -
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One step closer to the SiN from Shadowrun.
Bring on the dragons! "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:44:00 -
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Nah, bring in the Cyberpunk girls in the dystopian future with skimpy skin tight outfits
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:48:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:ForbesInteresting, issue a secure login to all citizens to access Government materials and services on the internet, akin to the Social Security number. Apparently this system is used in Canada and the UK is considering it. What with the current Twitter controversy in the papers over Trolls, and fear of hackers (so lets trust the government to keep login details secure). Logicically the best usage from may be to require a secure login though these services to access the internet, thus compelling an endpoint identification. For your security and freedom, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
Well, it must be stopped, immediately. It's the thin end of the wedge. First you need an ID to read online material. Next you'll need one to open a bank account, and so on until everything you do online you'll need this key for. And of course somewhere there will be a big database containing all of this information, and the net as "the wild west" will be dead. |
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2013.08.23 02:06:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:ForbesInteresting, issue a secure login to all citizens to access Government materials and services on the internet, akin to the Social Security number. Apparently this system is used in Canada and the UK is considering it. What with the current Twitter controversy in the papers over Trolls, and fear of hackers (so lets trust the government to keep login details secure). Logicically the best usage from may be to require a secure login though these services to access the internet, thus compelling an endpoint identification. For your security and freedom, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
Talk about keeping tabs and controlling the citizenry. Are we going to burn Washington DC, I mean Jita, are we gonna burn Jita? Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
32595
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Posted - 2013.08.23 19:19:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Well, it must be stopped, immediately. It's the thin end of the wedge. First you need an ID to read online material. Next you'll need one to open a bank account, and so on until everything you do online you'll need this key for. And of course somewhere there will be a big database containing all of this information, and the net as "the wild west" will be dead. How? The electorate want this for security.
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Robby Altair
8
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:17:00 -
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Online ID keys will make the NSA job and their contracts job easier. Maybe. Because if it does, or doesn't, then it will be a national secret. |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:26:00 -
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Robby Altair wrote:Online ID keys will make the NSA job and their contracts job easier. Maybe. Because if it does, or doesn't, then it will be a national secret. As Picard said...
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jason hill
The Riot Formation Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.08.25 12:13:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The UK already has something partially in place, and it works about as well as can be expected for a government IT project, poorly implemented, contracted out to 3rd parties and way way too expensive.
Universal Jobmatch (meant to be voluntary, in practice mandatory if you're unemployed, and they gave the contract to Monster.com, who tbh have f'ked it up more than the government ever could) and DVLA are already using a scheme called Government Gateway which issues you with a 12 digit ID number that's required to access more in-depth services such as driving licence renewals, applying for social security benefits etc.
the universal job match isn't mandatory if your unemployed ...trust I know cos I`m unemployed its just supposed to direct peeps to potential jobs advertised ... but I grant you its about the worst website I have ever seen ..all it does is link to other jobsites TBH its fkn rubbish ...its possibly the worst job website I have EVER seen. tax payer hard earned cash wasted as intended
I would be interested to see how much tax payers paid to have that website designed ...its truly abysmal ...I could rant on all all day about it ...but there`s no point |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
54211
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Posted - 2013.08.25 14:32:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Nah, bring in the Cyberpunk girls in the dystopian future with skimpy skin tight outfits
Shadowrun has lots of those too.
And hot elf chicks. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
12322
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Posted - 2013.08.25 17:14:00 -
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jason hill wrote: the universal job match isn't mandatory if your unemployed ...trust I know cos I`m unemployed its just supposed to direct peeps to potential jobs advertised ... but I grant you its about the worst website I have ever seen ..all it does is link to other jobsites TBH its fkn rubbish ...its possibly the worst job website I have EVER seen. tax payer hard earned cash wasted as intended
I would be interested to see how much tax payers paid to have that website designed ...its truly abysmal ...I could rant on all all day about it ...but there`s no point
As someone who is also currently unemployed I beg to differ, the universal jobmatch is meant to be voluntary, until your advisor at JCP makes it a jobseekers direction, which they can do at any time. Refusal to follow that direction results in a sanction, thus it's mandatory.
Source: I'm currently on a 6 month sanction for refusing a jobseekers direction to sign up for Universal Jobmatch, until provided with a privacy statement. My argument was that I've spent the best part of 20 years not sharing my details with all and sundry via the internet, I'd like to be certain that any confidential details held by the DWP aren't for sale. The site is actually run for the DWP by Monster.com, who have a reputation for being nearly as good with data security as the government.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39858
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Posted - 2013.08.25 18:07:00 -
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Bulshytt:
(1) In Fluccish of the late Praxic Age and early Reconstitution, a derogatory term for false speech in general, esp. knowing and deliberate falsehood or obfuscation.
(2) In Orth, a more technical and clinical term denoting speech (typically but not necessarily commercial or political) that employs euphemism, convenient vagueness, numbing repetition, and other such rhetorical subterfuges to create the impression that something has been said.
(3) According to the Knights of Saunt Halikaarn, a radical order of the 2nd Millennium A.R., all speech and writings of the ancient Sphenics; the Mystagogues of the Old Mathic Age; Praxic Age commercial and political institutions; and, since the Reconstitution, anyone they deemed to have been infected by Procian thinking. Their frequent and loud use of this word to interrupt lectures, dialogs, private conversations, etc., exacerbated the divide between Procian and Halikaarnian orders that characterized the mathic world in the years leading up to the Third Sack. Shortly before the Third Sack, all of the Knights of Saunt Halikaarn were Thrown Back, so little more is known about them (their frequent appearance in S+ªcular entertainments results from confusion between them and the Incanters).
Usage note: In the mathic world, if the word is suddenly shouted out in a chalk hall or refectory it brings to mind the events associated with sense (3) and is therefore to be avoided. Spoken in a moderate tone of voice, it takes on sense (2), which long ago lost any vulgar connotations it may once have had. In the S+ªculum it is easily confused with sense (1) and deemed a vulgarity or even an obscenity. It is inherent in the mentality of extramuros bulshytt-talkers that they are more prone than anyone else to taking offense (or pretending to) when their bulshytt is pointed out to them. This places the mathic observer in a nearly impossible position. One is forced either to use this GÇ£offensiveGÇ¥ word and be deemed a disagreeable person and as such excluded from polite discourse, or to say the same thing in a different way, which means becoming a purveyor of bulshytt oneself and thereby lending strength to what one is trying to attack. The latter quality probably explains the uncanny stability and resiliency of bulshytt. Resolving this dilemma is beyond the scope of this Dictionary and is probably best left to hierarchs who make it their business to interact with the S+ªculum.
GÇö the dictionary, 4th edition, A.R. 3000 (Neal Stephenson -- Anathem) |
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