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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.12.31 14:48:00 -
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I'm so glad I've got a new computer arriving next week. My current setup up of P4 3.4/512MB RAM with Go5700/128MB is no longer good enough. Not for level 3 combat missions anyway. A dozen assorted rats and artifacts and frame rates were well into single digits. And this was with all effects and sound turned off at 1280x1024 resolution.
I eventually had to give up on the mission. Too dangerous to risk my Apoc further.
Tbh I think the devs need to look into this problem as (yet another) priority. The above spec might not be leading edge but it's hardly crap. Before RMR I didn't have any performance issues at all. It was rare to see framerates drop below 20fps ever.
Just got to hope that an AMD64 3.5 and NVidia 6800 with 256M of RAM is enough.
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Gonada
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Posted - 2005.12.31 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Gonada on 31/12/2005 15:09:43
256M RAM
holly hannah, ram is cheap go buy more ram
with 2 gigs of ram youll hardly notice any lag whatsoever.
im amazed that so many of you people that play eve, have absaloutly no understanding of how computers work.
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Tweedled
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Posted - 2005.12.31 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tweedled on 31/12/2005 15:12:02
 Originally by: Gonada
Edited by: Gonada on 31/12/2005 15:09:43
256M RAM
holly hannah, ram is cheap go buy more ram
with 2 gigs of ram youll hardly notice any lag whatsoever.
im amazed that so many of you people that play eve, have absaloutly no understanding of how computers work.
i think you'll find he means the graphics card, idiot. lol :-P
(edit: no offence intended with 'idiot', it just sounds funny in my head)
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.12.31 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 31/12/2005 15:13:54
Originally by: Gonada
Edited by: Gonada on 31/12/2005 15:09:43
256M RAM
holly hannah, ram is cheap go buy more ram
with 2 gigs of ram youll hardly notice any lag whatsoever.
im amazed that so many of you people that play eve, have absaloutly no understanding of how computers work.
For me the main issue is that with 256 RAM i was able to be in 200man fleetfights a year ago, with FRAPS running and still get 15-20 FPS. Now i can barely run missions because of the mem leaks.
He was on about his GFX card btw, not RAM.
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2005.12.31 15:25:00 -
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Yeh the memory leaks are insane these days... This is an issue that needs to be addressed urgently please CCP.
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Psym0n
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Posted - 2005.12.31 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Psym0n on 31/12/2005 16:14:13
if your running xfire, close it
Originally by: Andrue
Just got to hope that an AMD64 3.5 and NVidia 6800 with 256M of RAM is enough.
he was talking about HIS RAM!
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Mr Bunny
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Posted - 2005.12.31 16:39:00 -
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Yeh, he was talking about his RAM, the RAM on his GFX card.
I have an AMD 64 3500+, 2gb pc4200 ddr ram & a 256mb radeon x800xt and Eve stills feels slow to me. I just figured it was network lag rather than my machine.
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branodn lee
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Posted - 2005.12.31 16:46:00 -
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dont know what your problum is. i can run 2 accounts and fraps and still have 20-30fps when doing just about anything and i only have a p4 2.6
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Mr Bunny
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Posted - 2005.12.31 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: branodn lee
dont know what your problum is. i can run 2 accounts and fraps and still have 20-30fps when doing just about anything and i only have a p4 2.6
DUnno if this is at me or the op... if its at me, then it probably is my internet connection (which sux on other games too). I was just speculating. Im new I dont know anything 
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Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2005.12.31 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
im amazed that so many of you people that play eve, have absaloutly no understanding of how computers work.
And I'm amazed that so many people in the world are allowed to drive cars without understanding how internal combustion engines and electronic ignition systems work.....
And as for my missus....how DARE she use the washing machine when she doesn't know how an electic motor and a water pump work!!!!
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Dante Chusuk
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Posted - 2005.12.31 17:41:00 -
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Mildly amused by Brutor Shaun's answer there .... ok "mildly" is an understatement ... the neighbours now think I am barking.
Andrue, assuming your new PC is coming with at least a gig of "system" RAM you should be fine. The only issues I have run into since RMR is as follows:
a) Ingame messaging enabled in XFire (so you can still keep it running just not get the Scroll Lock+X feature, which I never used anyway)
b) found a "bad" settings file (PC I think it was called) in the cache which caused one client to have bad fps (4 or 5 and the other on D drive to have fine fps 80-100 in space sole client, 50-60 in space two clients), once I found this out I made sure my character settings files were kept and got rid of the rest. Now both clients perform like the D client was.
Also I haven't yet had Eve have a memory leak on me, even flying through a congested system (which I try to stay away from unless there is a bargain there  ), I followed the prefs.ini guide in Eve Technology Lab and have set each client to use a quarter of the physical RAM, I rarely go into more than 1000MB of Memory running both clients + Firefox + other apps in the background.
System stats are reasonably similar to yours except you probably have newer parts (s939 instead of s754, PCIe instead of AGP).
Good luck with the new PC, hope it works out ok.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.12.31 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 31/12/2005 19:14:26
Something major has changed with RMR. I'm getting 20FPS wehere before I got 45. Yes, this does mean I'm effectively locked out of combat. Sigh.
2400 / 1GB / 9800 Pro
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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Rabbitgod
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Posted - 2005.12.31 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Rabbitgod on 31/12/2005 19:48:28
I get 30-35 FPS where before I was getting 25-30. Maybe you should all try clearing your temp files, macho net, maybe even uninstall then reinstall from the full client instead of running your origanal eve client + random patch + random patch + cold war + random patch + random patch + random patch + random patch + random patch + random patch + RMR
Edit: Oh and my system is only a AMD 2500 on a A7N8X-X board with 512 Ram and a G-Force FX 5500 with 256 ram the card all run in win2k.
Here these will help
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.12.31 19:47:00 -
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Done that. My FPS went from 15 to 20.
Sigh.
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
"Corpse cannot be fitted onto ship. Only hardware modules can be fitted." |
MWEI
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Posted - 2005.12.31 19:51:00 -
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Other than the serious memory leak problem and reduced performance compared to pre-RMR, frame rate arent that bad as long as you dont run XFire, once XFire injects a dialog into EVE window you can have fun with 15fps.
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Tatsue Niko
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Posted - 2005.12.31 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Edited by: Maya Rkell on 31/12/2005 19:14:26
Something major has changed with RMR. I'm getting 20FPS wehere before I got 45. Yes, this does mean I'm effectively locked out of combat. Sigh.
2400 / 1GB / 9800 Pro
I wouldnt say your out of combat tbh,I've played with 20~ fps since last week,when i got a new computer,It didnt put me out of pvp,Yes,some deaths (espec the 4 pods i've lost) Is caused by the lag. Lost 10~ ships and got hundreds of kills..So no it aint impossible,Just a bit harder.I even ran fraps on that comp
But dang,80-100 fps in space is perfect 
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AdriaLima
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Posted - 2005.12.31 20:15:00 -
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Stop telling people to upgrade their hardware when their hardware ran eve just fine before the rmr patch.
And no ccp didnt do a complete overhaul of the engine ..at best they activated/implemented some additional graphical stuff like a glow when you put on a repairer or that laser target painter thingy...
None of which can be classified as a mayor change so technically you can even go as far as to say nothing has changed at all.
However its the fps dips are really bad.. cant even use the webifier anymore cause it completely drops the fps and makes me stutter...dont tell me its my system lol cause really that aint it or else i'd have the same problem before the patch. 
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.12.31 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 31/12/2005 20:25:47
It seems not so much the effects as something seems to be changed in the core rendering engine (since it also happens with effects off).
And for reference I don't and never have run XFire
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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Torze
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Posted - 2005.12.31 20:28:00 -
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Andrue, you don't need a new system, you need more system ram. 512 really isn't enough for just about any online game anymore. I'm running an Athlon XP 3200, Ati Radeon 9500 pro, and 1 gig of consair ram. I have zero troubles with Eve.
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Dotar Sojat
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Posted - 2005.12.31 21:01:00 -
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I think alot of people are having so much trouble running EVE because they have little or no clue as to how to maintain a good clean system. The main problem is usually between the chair and the keyboard.
Here's an actual tip, if you consider yourself a serious gamer. Run a dual boot system, one for the world, the other with nothing but EVE and Teamspeak. I've always played with a dual boot system running an old AMD Thunderbird 1400 and 512 megs of sdram, two accounts, three accounts no worries.
It's kind of a no-brainer really.  |
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Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2005.12.31 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dotar Sojat
Run a dual boot system.....It's kind of a no-brainer really.
I've got a brain. Dual boot system??? WTF? How do I do that then?
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2005.12.31 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shinnen
Yeh the memory leaks are insane these days... This is an issue that needs to be addressed urgently please CCP.
YEAH QFT! What the hell has happened over the past year, seems to me that EVE has kinda gone to ****. When I first started i could get 30 or so FPS in PVP situations with a lot of ships, now i cant even get from a station to a bastard stargate without lagging at 15 FPS. Good thing i'm building new machines then innit! 
*ps ccp i love you really, but c'mon to frak!*
Gothikia
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Kalissa
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Posted - 2005.12.31 23:13:00 -
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I spoke to a guy a little while ago who was telling me a little about how Eve works, and the way the game is set up right now your FPS has very very little to do with your graphics card and much more to do with your CPU. Getting a real top line graphics card will give you very little return in the FPS department. From what I was told one of the improvements that are slated for Kali is to shift over a lot of the load from CPU to the GPU on the graphics card, he explained it very technically but thats basically the end result and if it works out we'll get increased FPS with increased resolution plus your CPU will be freed up for other things.
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GlimmerMan
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Posted - 2005.12.31 23:51:00 -
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For starters the 5700 is a mid-range card from 2 generations ago now! However when I was running a 5900 Ultra I had no FPS issues (with all effects on at maximum), and that card was only about 50% faster than the standard 5700. Sounds like you've got a performance issue with your PC, you're sure you're spyware/virus free etc? As others have also said EVE is a very memory intensive game and 512MB may be enough to run the game, but it won't run well.
A lot of people claim a memory leak was intorduced with RMR, I've personally not experienced it but I have a top spec PC so maybe it just has less of an impact on my machine, but with so many people reporting it there has to be some truth to it, it could be affecting you too. This is something the devs will likley look at, but until then you'll have to live with it if is is indeed impacting on your performace.
A 6800 is again a mid-range card and is still a generation behind, so I wouldn't expect anything magical from it with todays newest games, but it should be more than fine for EVE, you should see a big improvement.
Blowing s**t up since May 2003
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TimeKeepr
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Posted - 2005.12.31 23:53:00 -
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well ive got a 2.0ghz A64 with 1gb pc3200 ram and a nvidia 6800GT with 256mb ram on it. been using this setup for over a year now with 4x AA and 8x anisotropic filtering...and its always ran well.
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Aornn
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Posted - 2006.01.01 00:12:00 -
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The client is CRAP.
Recode it. Now.
With real programming language.
And when you do recode it, do make sure the sound doesnt eat 50% of FPS off when sounds are on.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.01.01 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Aornn
With real programming language.
Oh so Visual C++ isn't a real programming language?
You should go tell that to the makers of about 98% of games out there. I'm sure they'll be very receptive.
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Aornn
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Posted - 2006.01.01 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Aornn
With real programming language.
Oh so Visual C++ isn't a real programming language?
You should go tell that to the makers of about 98% of games out there. I'm sure they'll be very receptive.
I bet 98% game makers out there bolt on Python scripts also to run parts the game.
*rollseyes*
I think Dark Shikari is my fanboi.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.01.01 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 01/01/2006 01:14:42
Originally by: Aornn
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Aornn
With real programming language.
Oh so Visual C++ isn't a real programming language?
You should go tell that to the makers of about 98% of games out there. I'm sure they'll be very receptive.
I bet 98% game makers out there bolt on Python scripts also to run parts the game.
*rollseyes*
I think Dark Shikari is my fanboi.
Python doesn't have anything to do with the graphics rendering whatsoever
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David Corbett
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Posted - 2006.01.01 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Aornn
I think Dark Shikari is my fanboi.
I wouldn't flatter yourself. He just posts a lot.
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