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Zappity
Kurved Space
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Posted - 2013.08.28 21:33:00 -
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"What my enemies call a general peace is my destruction. What I call peace is merely the rearmament of my enemies."
Renting, huh? Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Zappity
Zappin' it
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Posted - 2013.08.29 00:10:00 -
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I have never understood this debate.
That guy who raged at you in local after you scammed him - were his 'tears' real or was he pretending? Of course they were real, otherwise you wouldn't enjoy doing it.
You negatively affected somebody's emotions. To say 'it doesn't matter because it's not real' is a transparently juvenile defensive position from someone who is uncomfortable with their actions.
EVE is such a good 'game' because it evokes real emotional responses to loss and therefore gain. That's why many of us play it. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Zappity
Zappin' it
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Posted - 2013.08.29 04:17:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Zappity wrote:I have never understood this debate.
That guy who raged at you in local after you scammed him - were his 'tears' real or was he pretending? Of course they were real, otherwise you wouldn't enjoy doing it.
You negatively affected somebody's emotions. To say 'it doesn't matter because it's not real' is a transparently juvenile defensive position from someone who is uncomfortable with their actions.
EVE is such a good 'game' because it evokes real emotional responses to loss and therefore gain. That's why many of us play it. People shouldn't play video games that make them feel sad.
Don't be daft. That's why I put inverted commas around game. The game is just an interface to allow human interactions in a simulated setting. The game itself doesn't make people 'sad', people do.
The only part of the actual game that makes people sad is missions. And POS management. And... actually, I think I'll be quiet now! Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Zappity
Zappin' it
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Posted - 2013.08.29 06:45:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Mayhaw Morgan wrote:Rhes wrote:The "simulated setting" is the important bit. If somebody loses isk to a scammer or loses a ship to another player and they feel so sad that it's making them miserable then they shouldn't be playing this game. Why play the game at all if, as you are implying, no fulfillment is possible? If the game has no power to make me sad or happy or angry or excited, then what good is it? What keeps you logging in? Or are you implying that only people who win games should keep playing games and people who lose them should seek fulfillment in something else? N3 exists to destroy GSF, only one will survive, the other will play even more LoL
Ha, I can't stop myself liking your posts today. I guess that's Rhes' point too: if failure or a setback makes you miserable rather than take up the challenge then it might not be the right game.
I still don't see that the simulated setting makes much difference to the issue. Just a personality failure whether it is simulated or not. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Zappity
Kurved Space
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:43:00 -
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This is all far too metaphysical for me. It's simple, really:
Actions in game are not real. A person's response to those actions IS real.
Your in-game actions can make someone happy. You actions can make someone sad.
Whether their emotional response to what happens in a game is appropriate or not (well, it's not) is immaterial. They still have a negative experience. And you choose to cause it. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Zappity
Kurved Space
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Posted - 2013.08.30 21:43:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:This thread is a negative experience. This thread is why it should be illegal to get halfway through Ethics 101 and then rush to some forums to unleash your ~realtalk~ concerning video game morality.
Uh huh. Very good.
Aryth wrote:Be sure to send me any EVEmails you get with crying. I do so love suffering.
Maybe you should have a chat with him. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
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