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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3573
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:21:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Skydell wrote:I know what I am talking about and you can kiss my ass. I'm right.
No you don't, going by the information you've supplied. What parts were wrong, bucket mouth?
I've already answered this.
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3573
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:23:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:
The cargohold of a freighter would have to be nerfed by a certain percentage to make up for every low slot or rig slot that it gained. To haul iHubs & Station egg's the freighter pilot would have to fit cargohold expanders. Tippia did all of the math on this awhile back, he might post it if you ask nicely.
What about mids? Or specific sized modules for those technically not a capital freighter? What about adding something instead of just taking away? There's plenty of battleship and capital modules that just dont fit to any ship and also have serious penalties when fitted to other ships not meant for those modules. No need to have to change the hull itself.
Sure, but since a freighter, like an Orca, tanks with it's structure...
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
558
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:30:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Skydell wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Skydell wrote:I know what I am talking about and you can kiss my ass. I'm right.
No you don't, going by the information you've supplied. What parts were wrong, bucket mouth? I've already answered this.
No you didn't.
You mean the part where I said you get suspect for web use?
Suspect, what I said the first time, what I said this time. Criminal? Like you implied? No, I said suspect.
Freighter doesn't take 'very long' to warp when you dual web. It warps immediately. A frigate can beat the freighter to the next gate but can't jump through. It sits there with a suspect timer. Do it 15 or 20 jumps.
And don't forget to ignore the part about remote repair being a comedy side show because the ship is hull tanked. Ignore the fact that you can't Agi stack a freighter because it has no cap skills and ignore the fact that the web doesn't work if the ship gets bumped. You still do a bump spool down.
You are full of it up to your ears and you know it. Freighters are pinata's on a stick. You like them that way and you want them to stay that way. You don't want them balanced for the new Alpha strike ability of your throw away tier 3 BC's. You like cow kills. You don't want people flying freighters to have a snowballs chance in hell.
We done? |
Dave Stark
3452
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:38:00 -
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please stop posting skydell, every time you post you lengthen the list of inaccuracies associated with your name. |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
558
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:45:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:please stop posting skydell, every time you post you lengthen the list of inaccuracies associated with your name.
Troll away, troll boy. Anyone who actually flew a freighter knows I am right.
you barfing out the same failed illegitimacy claims doesn't change that. |
Dave Stark
3452
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:47:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Dave Stark wrote:please stop posting skydell, every time you post you lengthen the list of inaccuracies associated with your name. Troll away, troll boy. Anyone who actually flew a freighter knows I am right. you barfing out the same failed illegitimacy claims doesn't change that.
except; you're not right. |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
558
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:53:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Skydell wrote:Dave Stark wrote:please stop posting skydell, every time you post you lengthen the list of inaccuracies associated with your name. Troll away, troll boy. Anyone who actually flew a freighter knows I am right. you barfing out the same failed illegitimacy claims doesn't change that. except; you're not right.
So you keep saying and yet I know better.
And you can't even provide examples where I am incorrect. |
Dave Stark
3452
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:57:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Skydell wrote:Dave Stark wrote:please stop posting skydell, every time you post you lengthen the list of inaccuracies associated with your name. Troll away, troll boy. Anyone who actually flew a freighter knows I am right. you barfing out the same failed illegitimacy claims doesn't change that. except; you're not right. So you keep saying and yet I know better. And you can't even provide examples where I am incorrect.
you don't and that's why it's so hilarious to see you posting such hideous errors. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3145
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:07:00 -
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Skydell wrote:You mean the part where I said you get suspect for web use? In-corp friends/alts don't get suspect status for webbing. Having an out-of-corp friend/alt "duel" your freighter and web it will not incur a suspect timer.
Skydell wrote:Freighter doesn't take 'very long' to warp when you dual web. It warps immediately. A frigate can beat the freighter to the next gate but can't jump through. It sits there with a suspect timer. Do it 15 or 20 jumps. Because the freighter warps slow the aggression timer on the webber will usually be half up or expired by the time the freighter arrives. And even if it doesn't, the freighter aligns slow enough it is actually worth holding cloak until the webber jumps through.
Skydell wrote:And don't forget to ignore the part about remote repair being a comedy side show because the ship is hull tanked. Ignore the fact that you can't Agi stack a freighter because it has no cap skills and ignore the fact that the web doesn't work if the ship gets bumped. You still do a bump spool down. The point of remote repping a freighter isn't to keep its armor HP at full... it's to stall the gank long enough for CONCORD to arrive. Most ganks that aren't done for "lols" operate on razor-thin DPS margins with some "extra" for "just in case"... so if you can negate some of that incoming damage the freighter will usually survive.
Skydell wrote:You are full of it up to your ears and you know it. Freighters are pinata's on a stick. You like them that way and you want them to stay that way. You don't want them balanced for the new Alpha strike ability of your throw away tier 3 BC's. You like cow kills. You don't want people flying freighters to have a snowballs chance in hell. Interesting fact... ganking freighters is more expensive than it ever has been.
In the "old days" (before Tier 3 BCs) people used artillery-fit Tempests. A Tempest hull around those times sold for a little more than what Teir 3s cost now. Also note that during this time people could still get insurance for ships they suicided... which meant that failing a gank resulted in minimal economic loss for the gankers. And the loot-drop mechanics haven't changed. There is a ~50/50 chance that a particular item will drop upon ship destruction. This has to be factored in when ganking for purely economic reasons.
And again... adding slots to freighters would require that the ship be nerfed in various stats to compensate. Want more low-slots? Have to remove some cargo-hold, hull, speed, agility, and armor. Mid-slots? Some shields and speed have to be removed. Why do this? Because people have this nasty tendency to min/max and produce off-the-wall setups that would result in "dumb" things (like capitals being moved to high-sec, setups that require an impossibly high number of people to crack, freighters that can insta-warp themselves, rainbow ponies, etc). Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1273
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:09:00 -
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So basically, the gist of the thread so far:
There is exactly one player in EVE that gets a suspect timer for webbing an in-corp alt. Unless Skydell is using an out-of-corp alt, in which case Skydell needs to learn agression mechanics and figure out how to initiate a duel.
Gankers gonna gank, because lulz and greed.
Freighters gonna max capacity because of stupid and greed.
CCP, in order to facilitate the reformation of both parties, the solution is clear.
You must significantly nerf the cargo capacity of all freighters, so as you prevent freighter pilots from being tempted to carry too much stuff, and to prevent gankers being tempted to gank for profit.
Nuke cargo capacity from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11853
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:13:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:remind me again how it's unfair to freighter pilots that it requires over 15 pilots to kill 1 ship? It's unfair because I disagree with you, and I am by definition always right therefore you are wrong for even daring to type some words on the Internet that disagree with me. Mods! Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11853
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:13:00 -
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And how many total freighters do you think there are, on any given day, flying through High Sec without being ganked? Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
558
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:15:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Skydell wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Skydell wrote:Dave Stark wrote:please stop posting skydell, every time you post you lengthen the list of inaccuracies associated with your name. Troll away, troll boy. Anyone who actually flew a freighter knows I am right. you barfing out the same failed illegitimacy claims doesn't change that. except; you're not right. So you keep saying and yet I know better. And you can't even provide examples where I am incorrect. you don't and that's why it's so hilarious to see you posting such hideous errors.
Anyone joining in at this point.
- Can't remote repair a freighter. Hull tank and end of cycle repairs nullify it - Agi stacks on a freighter make no appreciable difference, don't waste your time - Stasis webbifiers work but the web frigate gets a countdown and can't jump so you need to hold on each gate and wait for them to come though - Stasis Webbifiers don't work when the freighter gets bumped. It needs to spool down and re-align before it can warp and takes longer than a squad needs to pop it - Giving a freighter rigs and a low slot could be done by making packed size of Carriers and Dreadnaughts 3X what they are now. It won't impact mechanics, it was done on several items for various reasons.
But flapjaw above says I am wrong. Feel free to test these in test server.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:17:00 -
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Matari Akiga wrote:The value of the ship that is destroyed in no way affects the profit the gankers make, in order for a gank to be profitable the value of the cargo and modules that drop would have to be worth more than the cost of the ships used in the gank and the time that would be required to grind the security status back up for the characters.
So don't fill your freighter with shiny's/keep the value low of what you haul or bring friends.
I know how this works I have done thousands of runs between Jita and Amarr in a freighter and I have never been ganked even though I have been ship scanned many times, I dont make it worth the while. This guy from Page One knows exactly what's up. Outside of a few "for fun" instances, or competitions like Hulkageddon, the vast majority of people who gank freighters are doing it because they think it will turn them a profit. The expected value of the loot drops carried by most freighters that have been ganked are high enough to make them worthwhile targets. If you make yourself a less appealing target by carrying less per run, then you are less likely to get ganked.
But of course you won't listen. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
172
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:17:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Skydell wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Skydell wrote:
Troll away, troll boy. Anyone who actually flew a freighter knows I am right.
you barfing out the same failed illegitimacy claims doesn't change that.
except; you're not right. So you keep saying and yet I know better. And you can't even provide examples where I am incorrect. you don't and that's why it's so hilarious to see you posting such hideous errors. Anyone joining in at this point. - Can't remote repair a freighter. Hull tank and end of cycle repairs nullify it - Agi stacks on a freighter make no appreciable difference, don't waste your time - Stasis webbifiers work but the web frigate gets a countdown and can't jump so you need to hold on each gate and wait for them to come though - Stasis Webbifiers don't work when the freighter gets bumped. It needs to spool down and re-align before it can warp and takes longer than a squad needs to pop it - Giving a freighter rigs and a low slot could be done by making packed size of Carriers and Dreadnaughts 3X what they are now. It won't impact mechanics, it was done on several items for various reasons. But flapjaw above says I am wrong. Feel free to test these in test server.
The original post you made said that in-corp webbing gives a suspect timer, which anyone with a passing understanding of highsec mechanics would know is a lie. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:19:00 -
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Lucy Hastmena wrote:Dave Stark wrote:remind me again how it's unfair to freighter pilots that it requires over 15 pilots to kill 1 ship? ok you dont get it, no problem i explain it again, also for the really slow thinking people like you. This is not about a fight, this is about SUIZID gankers. There will be no Fight or something like that. There is even not a fault of the Freighter Pilot necessary like jumping into low sec or undocking during war. And of Course you dont need 15 Pilots, just one Player with ISBoxer will kill you and you dont have even the Chance to do anything. You cant warp away, you cant fit tank, you cant scout ( they bump you until their gank squad logged in) There is absolute nothing you can do about. Tell this guy your story, guess he needs to know: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19440276 Have you tried being less greedy with how much stuff you pile into your loot pi+Ķata? Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:23:00 -
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Lucy Hastmena wrote: Additional every ******* ISBoxer user can build up his own ganking squad like nothing. This combination was seen for example in 1.0 Systems with around 20 tornados between Jita and Amarr. Yes it was an ISBoxer, he was really stupid so he tried to smack in local and every of his alts did the same at the same second.
It sounds to me like your issue is not so much with your inability to keep your freighter alive (my condolences), but with your dislike for the ISBoxer program and people who run multiple accounts of EVE Online. That is something you are going to have to get over. Realize that even if it wasn't someone with ISBoxer, people could easily be that organized: within my own alliance, there are fleets of people out and about suicide ganking people every day with the kind of coordination you describe. While your particular encounter may have been one guy commanding many clients, the end result is the same: a bunch of ships attack yours and you lose your ship. This is an intended game mechanic. You need to find ways to deal with it.
Though it does seem odd that Freighters and Jump Freighters are the only ships with no fitting slots. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:29:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Bring logi. But that would require active piloting and player interaction that people AFKing their loot pi+Ķatas through high sec are dreadfully afraid of or otherwise do not want to do. Just look at Gevlon "Regional Arbitrage" Goblin as an example: this fellow made his space fortune by autopiloting freighters between Amarr and Jita, and has terrible social skills. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
558
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:30:00 -
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Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Skydell wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Skydell wrote:
So you keep saying and yet I know better.
And you can't even provide examples where I am incorrect.
you don't and that's why it's so hilarious to see you posting such hideous errors. Anyone joining in at this point. - Can't remote repair a freighter. Hull tank and end of cycle repairs nullify it - Agi stacks on a freighter make no appreciable difference, don't waste your time - Stasis webbifiers work but the web frigate gets a countdown and can't jump so you need to hold on each gate and wait for them to come though - Stasis Webbifiers don't work when the freighter gets bumped. It needs to spool down and re-align before it can warp and takes longer than a squad needs to pop it - Giving a freighter rigs and a low slot could be done by making packed size of Carriers and Dreadnaughts 3X what they are now. It won't impact mechanics, it was done on several items for various reasons. But flapjaw above says I am wrong. Feel free to test these in test server. The original post you made said that in-corp webbing gives a suspect timer, which anyone with a passing understanding of highsec mechanics would know is a lie.
In corp, In fleet and I was given a suspect timer. Keep up the strawman arguments though. No worries, in case you haven't noticed I bait easy on the forums. I'm sure if you work really hard like a good little Shapiro forum warrior you will get me on some other bullshit technicality. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:31:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Yeah they need to be able to fit a tank. Give them fitting abilty. Its pretty stupid an orca can be fit to have 3 times the HP of a freighter. I honestly agree with you that, for the sake of consistency, Freighters and Jump Freights ought to have fitting slots.
Quote:You'll get a lot of idiots coming into this thread saying theres no problem but they make a living off ganking freighters so theyre biased. You'll also get people who are fanboys of the latter but neither will have a reasonable or sustainable argument so likely you'll get flamed. As opposed to yourself, who is in favour of changes to freighters (and therefore somehow not biased)?
Quote:I don't gank nor use freighters and its clear to me that when freighters were introduced without fitting it took a sizeable battleship force to kill one. Things have changed a lot and freighters need a rethink. I agree with you, but not for the reasons you espouse; moreover, I dislike the ad hominems you have employed. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
558
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:32:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Bring logi. But that would require active piloting and player interaction that people AFKing their loot pi+Ķatas through high sec are dreadfully afraid of or otherwise do not want to do. Just look at Gevlon "Regional Arbitrage" Goblin as an example: this fellow made his space fortune by autopiloting freighters between Amarr and Jita, and has terrible social skills.
Brought many Logi. The freighter popped before the cycle completed. The repairs never even calculated. Or am I supposed to know 15 seconds before they fire an alpha volley so I can time the logi? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:32:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Lucy Hastmena wrote:Dave Stark wrote:remind me again how it's unfair to freighter pilots that it requires over 15 pilots to kill 1 ship? ok you dont get it, no problem i explain it again, also for the really slow thinking people like you. This is not about a fight, this is about SUIZID gankers. There will be no Fight or something like that. There is even not a fault of the Freighter Pilot necessary like jumping into low sec or undocking during war. And of Course you dont need 15 Pilots, just one Player with ISBoxer will kill you and you dont have even the Chance to do anything. You cant warp away, you cant fit tank, you cant scout ( they bump you until their gank squad logged in) There is absolute nothing you can do about. Tell this guy your story, guess he needs to know: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19440276 15 pilots is still 15 pilots, regardless of the number of players controlling them. And that is exactly why CCP will never nerf ISBoxer, nor should they: 15 pilots is still 15 accounts, paying 15 subscriptions, and making the company 15 times the money of the one guy whining about getting his over-stuffed freighter killed through negligence. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:35:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Lucy Hastmena wrote:Dave Stark wrote:remind me again how it's unfair to freighter pilots that it requires over 15 pilots to kill 1 ship? ok you dont get it, no problem i explain it again, also for the really slow thinking people like you. This is not about a fight, this is about SUIZID gankers. There will be no Fight or something like that. There is even not a fault of the Freighter Pilot necessary like jumping into low sec or undocking during war. And of Course you dont need 15 Pilots, just one Player with ISBoxer will kill you and you dont have even the Chance to do anything. You cant warp away, you cant fit tank, you cant scout ( they bump you until their gank squad logged in) There is absolute nothing you can do about. Tell this guy your story, guess he needs to know: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19440276 You can scout it, you can have a friend or alt web your freighter, & your giant cargohold with an engine strapped to it is the inherent tank. You can do many things to mitigate the risk of a successful suicide gank being performed, you just choose not to. You choose to be a victim. Another good question for you, try to answer this one: If using ISboxer to scan a freighter, bump it, suicide gank it with 15 accounts then loot it with another freighter is so easy, why is literally no one doing this? About the only thing I would personally trust ISBoxer to do is multibox mining, and even then only because there are very few individual player inputs required for that activity. It is difficult to get your UI set up properly to multibox anything more complex, and while doing so is clearly possible it represents an effort-to-reward threshold that I am unwilling to scale. If there is one guy doing this with fifteen accounts, then more power to him. And if it is literally just the one guy, then all the OP needs to do is watchlist his "main," bumping character, and scout for him. There are all sorts of things that the OP can do to gain intel and avoid bad situations. I agree with you entirely: he is choosing to be a victim, and expecting the game to be changed so that he can continue his same behaviour without any risk. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:36:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Yeah they need to be able to fit a tank. Give them fitting abilty. Its pretty stupid an orca can be fit to have 3 times the HP of a freighter.
You'll get a lot of idiots coming into this thread saying theres no problem but they make a living off ganking freighters so theyre biased. You'll also get people who are fanboys of the latter but neither will have a reasonable or sustainable argument so likely you'll get flamed.
I don't gank nor use freighters and its clear to me that when freighters were introduced without fitting it took a sizeable battleship force to kill one. Things have changed a lot and freighters need a rethink. If CCP gave freighters the ability to fit a tank, people would fit cargohold expanders instead. This would also mean freighters base cargohold would have to be heavily nerfed to account for that. In the end, the only viable fitting option would be to fit cargohold mods. For anything else you would just use an Orca. They would use shield tanks of course! :haw: Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
172
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:37:00 -
[505] - Quote
Skydell wrote:Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Skydell wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Skydell wrote:
So you keep saying and yet I know better.
And you can't even provide examples where I am incorrect.
you don't and that's why it's so hilarious to see you posting such hideous errors. Anyone joining in at this point. - Can't remote repair a freighter. Hull tank and end of cycle repairs nullify it - Agi stacks on a freighter make no appreciable difference, don't waste your time - Stasis webbifiers work but the web frigate gets a countdown and can't jump so you need to hold on each gate and wait for them to come though - Stasis Webbifiers don't work when the freighter gets bumped. It needs to spool down and re-align before it can warp and takes longer than a squad needs to pop it - Giving a freighter rigs and a low slot could be done by making packed size of Carriers and Dreadnaughts 3X what they are now. It won't impact mechanics, it was done on several items for various reasons. But flapjaw above says I am wrong. Feel free to test these in test server. The original post you made said that in-corp webbing gives a suspect timer, which anyone with a passing understanding of highsec mechanics would know is a lie. In corp, In fleet and I was given a suspect timer. Keep up the strawman arguments though. No worries, in case you haven't noticed I bait easy on the forums. I'm sure if you work really hard like a good little Shapiro forum warrior you will get me on some other bullshit technicality.
File a petition. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:38:00 -
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Matari Akiga wrote:Lucy Hastmena wrote:Dave Stark wrote:remind me again how it's unfair to freighter pilots that it requires over 15 pilots to kill 1 ship? ok you dont get it, no problem i explain it again, also for the really slow thinking people like you. This is not about a fight, this is about SUIZID gankers. There will be no Fight or something like that. There is even not a fault of the Freighter Pilot necessary like jumping into low sec or undocking during war. And of Course you dont need 15 Pilots, just one Player with ISBoxer will kill you and you dont have even the Chance to do anything. You cant warp away, you cant fit tank, you cant scout ( they bump you until their gank squad logged in) There is absolute nothing you can do about. Tell this guy your story, guess he needs to know: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19440276 If the value of the expected drop is less than it would cost to gank the freighter then unless you have offended someone personally they are not likely to gank you it does not make financial sense. If you put 10 billion isks worth of faction shiny's in a freighter and auto pilot... well a fool and his things are quickly parted and rightly too if you look at the 10 Bil + kills on eve kill the loses on there are normally not capital or super caps they are transport ships, where people are stupid there is an almost 13 billion isk Badger 2 that dropped nearly 8 bil in loot, people need to stop being so amazingly stupid. It cost about 100 mil to get almost 8 Billion isks worth of drops if you have ever done any trading tell me that is not the best investment ever? Math is hard. Statistics is harder. "Expected value?" "Investments?" Get out of here with that elitist jargon! :bahgawd: Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:38:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Matari Akiga wrote:It cost about 100 mil to get almost 8 Billion isks worth of drops if you have ever done any trading tell me that is not the best investment ever? I'd invest heavily in this. Seconded. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:39:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Matari Akiga wrote:It cost about 100 mil to get almost 8 Billion isks worth of drops if you have ever done any trading tell me that is not the best investment ever? I'd invest heavily in this. To be completely honest, I don't kill freighters in highsec for the profit, I do it so people will create terrible threads like this. And that's why you're a goon hero. :swoon: Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
558
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:39:00 -
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MetaSwarm propaganda team is in overdrive on this one.
You watching CCP? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11854
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:40:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Matari Akiga wrote:If the value of the expected drop is less than it would cost to gank the freighter then unless you have offended someone personally they are not likely to gank you it does not make financial sense. One might rightly question what the hold of a freighter is supposed be filled with when they're still profitable to gank loaded with trit. Did it occur to you that perhaps it shouldn't be filled just because it's there? Or that perhaps you should not fly it solo if you are going to fill it to the point of being profitable to gank? Or that perhaps you should not expect to just walk away from the computer with your freighter on autopilot and expect it to be alive when you return? Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
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