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Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
295
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Posted - 2013.09.02 17:52:00 -
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So let me get this straight...
You're complaining about how your way of using multiple-accounts isn't working out because others using multiple-accounts in a different way are jamming you up?
Uhh... MKay. |
Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
233
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Posted - 2013.09.02 17:59:00 -
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Crimson Vectore wrote:Discuss
I believe that CCP are aware of this yet do nothing to stop it because it's one of their main sources of income. Individual players who can barely afford one character are at a great disadvantage due to the fact that they're competing with people who are able to exponentially raise their influence by just buying more characters. Not everyone, especially newer players, can make such an investment given the current situation in EVE. The situation being that older Alliances have monopolized Nullsec.
for example;
You purchase 10 accounts You train those accounts for industry You purchase a sub for multibox software You create a 0% tax indy corp in Hisec You continuously get ganked by Alt corps that belong to a nullsec alliance You realize that it isn't profitable and that your attempts of generating a return on your investment is impossible Were are you going to go? Nullsec?(lol) Unsub?(only choice) Who's going to reimburse the $1000 you just spent? CCP?(pfft) So what can you do?
It's impossible to gain any ground without joining them. It's safe to say that EVE is now a game about who's played it the longest, has the most toons, and who has the largest mass of mindless followers.
I'd like to see how much more interesting EVE would play out if everyone was just bound to one identity. Anyone who thinks that spending $1000 on video game subscriptions constitutes an "investment" is going to die very, very poor. |
Baggo Hammers
52
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Posted - 2013.09.02 18:28:00 -
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You can't fix stupid. Or pay to fix it. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1310
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Posted - 2013.09.02 18:30:00 -
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Confirming ALTs are killing EVE. CTRL is a much more accessible and user-friendly key. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
ashley Eoner
184
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Posted - 2013.09.02 18:32:00 -
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Crimson Vectore wrote:Discuss
I believe that CCP are aware of this yet do nothing to stop it because it's one of their main sources of income. Individual players who can barely afford one character are at a great disadvantage due to the fact that they're competing with people who are able to exponentially raise their influence by just buying more characters. Not everyone, especially newer players, can make such an investment given the current situation in EVE. The situation being that older Alliances have monopolized Nullsec.
for example;
You purchase 10 accounts You train those accounts for industry You purchase a sub for multibox software You create a 0% tax indy corp in Hisec You continuously get ganked by Alt corps that belong to a nullsec alliance You realize that it isn't profitable and that your attempts of generating a return on your investment is impossible Were are you going to go? Nullsec?(lol) Unsub?(only choice) Who's going to reimburse the $1000 you just spent? CCP?(pfft) So what can you do?
It's impossible to gain any ground without joining them. It's safe to say that EVE is now a game about who's played it the longest, has the most toons, and who has the largest mass of mindless followers.
I'd like to see how much more interesting EVE would play out if everyone was just bound to one identity. Bad player is bad.
I run mining fleets all the time in highsec and none of the people with me have been ganked. Now some time ago when hulkageddon was still popular I had a few attempts but there were no success..
Basically stop mining outside of jita and stop running high value items in mammoths...
Oh wait I just got trolled..
4/10 |
KnowUsByTheDead
Knights of the Dark Rose Black Crescent Inc.
195
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Posted - 2013.09.02 18:33:00 -
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I conversed with my alts about your post, and we are all in agreement.
This is the level of "give a damn" we possess....None.
Oh, and posting in a "Grr..Goons, Ban Multiboxing, Buff High Sec, Buff Mining, Nerf Ganking" thread.
These whine threads just get more and more complex as time goes on...
Now to post "constructively."
If a person spends a grand on what cost me quite literally nothing but my time playing the game...they are an idiot.
A billion isk can be made in a day or less, doing a multitude of things, other than mining.
I play with 6 accounts on a regular basis, without multiboxing software. In fact, I find it makes things more difficult of me.
And if people in EVE were bound to one identity, it would close out a whole world of gameplay options...such as...
Infiltration...dead.
Scouting for solo pvp...dead.
Missioning and Salvaging simultaneously...dead.
Hell, I am sure I could find dozens more, but you have made my head hurt with nonsense. Have a good day, sir.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's terms TAXU
1678
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Posted - 2013.09.02 18:35:00 -
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Nothing wrong with alts... except you cyno alt. Never let him outta your sight, and never trust him. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
737
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:14:00 -
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Crimson Vectore wrote:Discuss
I believe that CCP are aware of this yet do nothing to stop it because it's one of their main sources of income. Individual players who can barely afford one character are at a great disadvantage due to the fact that they're competing with people who are able to exponentially raise their influence by just buying more characters. Not everyone, especially newer players, can make such an investment given the current situation in EVE. The situation being that older Alliances have monopolized Nullsec.
for example;
You purchase 10 accounts You train those accounts for industry You purchase a sub for multibox software You create a 0% tax indy corp in Hisec You continuously get ganked by Alt corps that belong to a nullsec alliance You realize that it isn't profitable and that your attempts of generating a return on your investment is impossible Were are you going to go? Nullsec?(lol) Unsub?(only choice) Who's going to reimburse the $1000 you just spent? CCP?(pfft) So what can you do?
It's impossible to gain any ground without joining them. It's safe to say that EVE is now a game about who's played it the longest, has the most toons, and who has the largest mass of mindless followers.
I'd like to see how much more interesting EVE would play out if everyone was just bound to one identity.
nice one :D i like the part with "mindless followers" :'D could be written by me... its all so true and even worse, they made this their game... CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances ... |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
558
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:17:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:You realise whining as such makes you and your altliance look bad right?
fixed that for you.
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Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
10
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:21:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances
Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
737
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:27:00 -
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Barzai Mekhar wrote:Harry Forever wrote:CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months.
yea they would ragequit, so true ... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4269
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:29:00 -
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Barzai Mekhar wrote:Harry Forever wrote:CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months. Harry wants to gank eve online.
Too bad it's tanked. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
737
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:35:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Barzai Mekhar wrote:Harry Forever wrote:CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months. Harry wants to gank eve online. Too bad it's tanked.
EvE is sick, and I'm the cure... guess what you are?... ... |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
165
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:40:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Barzai Mekhar wrote:Harry Forever wrote:CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months. Harry wants to gank eve online. Too bad it's tanked. EvE is sick, and I'm the cure... guess what you are?...
But you said it yourself you are quitting this october |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4269
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:46:00 -
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Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Barzai Mekhar wrote:Harry Forever wrote:CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances Indeed, in a market where you see new MMO's imploding left and right, bleeding 90% of their subscribers within the first year, it's a tried and true strategy to aliente the people that kept you afloat for 10 years in order to attract a new mass audience. It is totaly unlikely that those people might move on to the next "new thing" within 6 months. Harry wants to gank eve online. Too bad it's tanked. EvE is sick, and I'm the cure... guess what you are?... But you said it yourself you are quitting this october I guess he's an october quitter There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13091
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:56:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: nice one :D i like the part with "mindless followers" :'D could be written by me... its all so true and even worse, they made this their game... CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances
5 million subscribers would turn Eve into a clone every other MMO out there. It's a niche game, that appeals to a niche audience and does so very successfully. Making it appeal to the mass market would ruin it, because we'd end up with a game that has been so watered down from it's original concept it would be unrecognisable.
More subs != a better game.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
KnowUsByTheDead
Knights of the Dark Rose Black Crescent Inc.
195
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:57:00 -
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Harry Forever is quitting in October? Whatever will the denizens of high sec do?!?!? Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4269
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Posted - 2013.09.02 20:58:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Harry Forever wrote: nice one :D i like the part with "mindless followers" :'D could be written by me... its all so true and even worse, they made this their game... CCP needs to understand how much this is holding it back.... 500.0000 subscribers, lol, they could have 5 million easy if they would not just listen to their vets, the vets are making this small, like a core group who do not want to open this up to others, because then they would not feel cool and special anymore... however eve will hit the mass market someday and that day I will be leading a force of randoms and blast the **** out of those old alliances
5 million subscribers would turn Eve into a clone every other MMO out there. It's a niche game, that appeals to a niche audience and does so very successfully. Making it appeal to the mass market would ruin it, because we'd end up with a game that has been so watered down from it's original concept it would be unrecognisable. More subs != a better game. It would drive out goons, that has to be worth it There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
737
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Posted - 2013.09.02 21:09:00 -
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did the blocked guys say something important? :'D ... |
Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
11
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Posted - 2013.09.02 21:14:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:did the blocked guys say something important? :'D
What, you missed how they final saw the light, compelled by your brilliant reasoning and started praising you as their saviour because you BLOCKED them? I am disappoint |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13091
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Posted - 2013.09.02 21:39:00 -
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Confirming Harry as the saviour of something and that he's finally figured out the block posts functions
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4270
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Posted - 2013.09.02 23:56:00 -
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Saves you from using cynos onto VFK There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Nex Killer
Drunk3n Warfare
44
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Posted - 2013.09.03 00:35:00 -
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What are you doing wrong? I multibox 5 accounts and haven't paid for a sub fee in 8 months on any of my accounts... I think your doing it all wrong mate. |
T'Laar Bok
82
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Posted - 2013.09.03 00:39:00 -
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Impossible to police. Besides all my Alts are "Mains" is CCP going to keep an eye on every account to make sure "Mains" are not being used as/like Alts?
Amphetimines are your friend.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/T'Laar_Bok |
Jim Roebuck
StarFleet Enterprises Fatal Ascension
75
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Posted - 2013.09.03 00:40:00 -
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I guess 'Ban alts/bots' is the topic flavor of the week. "Black shadows hanging over his shoulders Black mark up against your name Your green eyes couldn't get any colder There's red poison flowing through your veins..." AC/DC, Evil Walks |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4271
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Posted - 2013.09.03 00:45:00 -
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Evil alts There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
167
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Posted - 2013.09.03 01:13:00 -
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T'Laar Bok wrote:Impossible to police.
What this guy said. Regardless of how you feel about alts, there's no way CCP could stop them, which makes any discussion about it pretty pointless. |
Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
557
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Posted - 2013.09.03 02:28:00 -
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Instead of whining on the forums, go and do something. Get a smartbombing battleship and blow stuff up. "QQ threads are only allowed in the Out of Pod Experience forum." - ISD Cura Ursus |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
80
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Posted - 2013.09.03 02:33:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Instead of whining on the forums, go and do something. Get a smartbombing battleship and blow stuff up.
Nah we're all quitting in October in solidarity with Harry.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4278
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Posted - 2013.09.03 03:42:00 -
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Isn't october when N3 will wipe us out?
Oh I see, spinning already are we There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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