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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2480
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:29:00 -
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As I have just received a surprised message from an Electus Matari diplomat (Bronnwynn), I thought that a public announcement of the status of Rifterlings and Point Blank Alliance in the Amarr/Minmatar war zone would be appropriate, to clear any further confusion.
Due to the recent reduction in Amarr resistance and the relative peace of space, we felt that our talents were not being properly utilized. As a result, we dropped our official role in the Tribal Liberation Force. We continue to support the Minmatar cause, and are cleaning up space of any Amarr and pirates we find. However, we are also conducting live-fire training exercises for the TLF (and to a lesser degree, the FDU).
These exercises include, but are not limited to:
- Impromptu dueling prowess evaluations
- Intel-ops and scouting tests, via reinforcing attacks with overwhelming numbers (also known as "blobbing")
- Situational awareness checks, via attempted interdiction of complex capturing
- Agility practice, by only allowing nimble/fast pilots through an established checkpoint at a system choke
- Fleet engagement refreshers, using a variety of tactics and ships
- And even possibly... Starbase defense ops
There is no need to thank us for this invaluable service. We are an educational organization at heart. Since we do have operating costs, though, we will be collecting any modules/items that drop off of ships that fail training exercises and using them to cover our costs.
If any other corporations or alliances wish to join us in this endeavor, they are welcome to. We would be happy to collaborate. Additionally, if a TLF corporation/alliance wishes to opt out (and have a good reason to), that is also possible.
Fly dangerously, and yarr! Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
4688
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:39:00 -
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Have you ever considered a career in diplomacy? Or perhaps marketing? |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2480
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:41:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Have you ever considered a career in diplomacy? Or perhaps marketing? Already got my fingers in both those pots. I don't see how that's relevant, though. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
4688
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:46:00 -
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Salesmanship, Mr. Blackshell. Salesmanship. |
Drax Concrilla
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:31:00 -
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I must admit, I was quite surprised about this decision (the announcement of our live fire exercises, that is) at first - customs being so different here in the Republic than my ancestral home - but now I have little doubt of the true patriotic service that Rifterlings is providing to the TLF rank and file.
One could even say that it is quite...liberating. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD
1030
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:44:00 -
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Are things about to get more difficult for EM? Interesting! Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2692
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:44:00 -
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Any region in particular training will occur?
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Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
420
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:45:00 -
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I was amused once I realised what was going on. Then I got to your oh-so-polite list of training exercises, and ended up crying with laughter. My thanks, I needed that. |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
898
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:48:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Any region in particular training will occur?
While giving away specific locales would reduce the quality of the training and ultimately make our pilots less capable of fighting the Amarr when/if they return, we desire the training to be convenient as well. TLF pilots will not have to travel beyond their home areas of Heimatar and Metropolis to participate. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2483
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:50:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Are things about to get more difficult for EM? Interesting! I'm not sure their operation times coincide with ours, as I don't recall seeing that many of them around. Still, Elsebeth and some other EM members have encountered out training operations.
Anslo wrote:Any region in particular training will occur? We operate mostly in native Minmatar systems in the warzone, usually from around 00:00 ET to 06:00 ET. As far as constellations go, that's Essin (base of operations), Hed, Eugidi, and Tiat. We also have some presence in the rest of the warzone, but we can usually find enough students in those constellations alone. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2692
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:50:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Anslo wrote:Any region in particular training will occur? While giving away specific locales would reduce the quality of the training and ultimately make our pilots less capable of fighting the Amarr when/if they return, we desire the training to be convenient as well. TLF pilots will not have to travel beyond their home areas of Heimatar and Metropolis to participate.
So Heimatar and Metropolis. Got it. Thanks.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2483
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:50:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Anslo wrote:Any region in particular training will occur? While giving away specific locales would reduce the quality of the training and ultimately make our pilots less capable of fighting the Amarr when/if they return, we desire the training to be convenient as well. TLF pilots will not have to travel beyond their home areas of Heimatar and Metropolis to participate. Come now, he obviously wants to help! Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
36
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:18:00 -
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Amusing.
-Eran |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2491
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Posted - 2013.09.05 21:51:00 -
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Since this announcement yesterday, TLF pilots have paid more than 1 billion ISK for our lessons. Most of that was used up in the training materials (their ships, fittings, etc), and we have claimed a small amount for our own operating costs. Among our happy customers are Ushra'Khan, who learned a valuable lesson about overview settings, Biohazard., who we have been making a special effort to help keep sharp as they spearhead the war effort, plus other miscellaneous pilots. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
413
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:10:00 -
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Lol U'K still had you blue? |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2494
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:02:00 -
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kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Lol U'K still had you blue?
They still do. That may change if they don't fix their overviews though. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
44
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:03:00 -
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I endorse this service. Please continue reporting on the results.
-Eran |
Pinky Feldman
NO MOAR TEARS I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
583
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Posted - 2013.09.06 05:33:00 -
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Could it be that Rifterlings has fallen even further away from the faith and the wonderous light that is The Empire? Reliable sources have recorded images of Rifterlings CEO hanging around Rancer. It could be that he has fallen in with the wrong crowd and is now being influenced by the pirate scum that everyone detests so much.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2494
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Posted - 2013.09.06 05:34:00 -
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Lies. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
282
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:46:00 -
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Hmm, so now I have to ask what the difference between what I do to fellow minmatar is and what Rifterlings have now chosen to do?
I am after all only constantly shooting my own kind to help them grow a pair. Still hasn't worked mind you, minmatar militia is still bloated with honourless fools that couldn't shoot down a pilotless reaper. There are of course exceptions, unfortunately they don't seem to get the respect they deserve in their own militia...
Good luck rifterlings, we may be on opposite sides but I like the cut of your wing spars. |
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2702
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:51:00 -
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Do you always fly around with Scythe support for your frigates? If so, you might want to give them a little more in the way of defense systems instead of zooming around. They are not Stabbers.
Also your Slicers are annoying to catch. Stop it.
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Pinky Feldman
NO MOAR TEARS I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
584
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Posted - 2013.09.07 04:48:00 -
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I do have to ask. Are you also teaching whatever dark wizardry WINMATAR uses to demoralize the Amarr into quitting FW? Could it possibly have something to do with Brave Newbies? I have looked at the killboards of Biohazard. and WINMATAR and there are strikingly similar trends. I can't place the source, but whatever they have figured out allows them to be a much stronger force than Iron Oxide. or TRIAD were even at their peak.
However, the Minmatar magic of demoralization clearly has to be a real thing since it has happened before. Lost Obsession used to be able to field the most powerful lowsec capital fleet and then there was PIZZA, yet somehow they were both so demoralized by a Minmatar that only flew SFIs, that they left for the Caldari warzone like many Amarr groups are doing now. Could the Stabber Fleet Issue possess magical powers such that the Minmatar militia can force entire groups of Amarr out, simply by spinning them inside of a station for extended periods of time and not even need to undock?
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Kentt Em'asep
Clone Red Creations
81
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Posted - 2013.09.08 10:57:00 -
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I am liking this. Here's to your blazing guns that spew mini martial artists at thou enemy. May they slice and dice into the Amarrian hulls like a knife into freshly cooked meat.
The gun barrels of Clone Red have been cold for awhile. Perhaps I may contact you sometime Mr. Blackshell. ~"That's right. Today, tomorrow, the next day, and the day after that, and the day after that...from here on until forever, every time you look at my avatar - you'll see this scowl." ~"Forever?" ~"Yes - forever. It's what I do." |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2499
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:07:00 -
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Anslo: Scythe support for our frigate fleets is actually quite rare. I am not actually aware of any of our pilots who does that. Are you sure it was not an ally of ours being helpful?
So far as the Slicers, I can't help you. That was probably Zao. You will have to catch him yourself, and he's a slippery bugger.
Pinky: I cannot confirm or deny the use of Minmatar mysticism to enhance our efforts. However, mysticism aside, the SFI is extremely well suited to passing our training exercises, so I suppose you could say we are training the militia to use SFIs. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2499
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:12:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Hmm, so now I have to ask what the difference between what I do to fellow minmatar is and what Rifterlings have now chosen to do? It is our allegiance. I do not support the Empire and will destroy any of its forces, given the chance. When actual war conflicts are involved, I endeavor to side with the Minmatar. You may claim to be fighting the Minmatar for their own good, and while that might be practically true, your official allegiance casts doubt on your motivations. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
79
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Posted - 2013.09.09 09:04:00 -
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Boredom is bad.
When it causes one's enemy to shoot itself, it is no longer boredom but rather it becomes entertainment. I know this is for training but...yeah, sorry, I'm not convinced.
-Eran |
Fintarue
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.09.09 23:50:00 -
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As a fellow Minmitar and trainer for Rifterlings, I take responsibility for strongly pushing through this plan of action and set of standard operating procedures that we now follow.
My heart aches for the day that we will be free of the Amarrian empire and their so called deities. I could no longer stand by while Amarr continued to push their filthy drugs upon my fellow Minmitarians, all in the name of helping us with a disease they themselves inflicted upon us. No longer! We will train our fellow Minmitar to the best of our ability, and as a long time trainer for our Corporation, experience tells me that these live fire trainings are indeed the best method for the desired outcome.
Throw off the chains of the Amarr brothers and sisters! Our Elders have returned! Let us reunite our glorious tribes and win this war once and for all! |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
83
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:50:00 -
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So you will kill Matari crew for the sake of the Minmatar empire. If this logic is sound then I don't understand why so many Matari take offense to what I've done.
-Eran |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2508
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:26:00 -
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"Kill"? Loss of materiel is not death. We (or at least I) try to avoid destroying capsules as blowing up a clone has no "teachable moment" in it. Still, we're all capsuleers here; even if you get blown to smithereens, you don't "die". That's why these live fire lessons are productive at all. If death and destruction was final, there would be no way for anyone to learn anything other than for the attackers to learn to love and revel in bloodshed. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
414
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:44:00 -
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He is talking about the poor chump in maintenance and that guy that cleans up..
It is why I mainly hire Amarrians, means I don't feel bad when my ship goes poof. Just make sure you don't let them know you are minmatar militia.. Don't worry to much once they are on board most want to live... Just happens I skimp on the escape pods, only officers get on those :P |
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2508
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:05:00 -
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kraiklyn Asatru wrote:He is talking about the poor chump in maintenance and that guy that cleans up.
They signed up for it presumably knowing what they were getting into. If I were raiding peaceful industrial vessels in hisec, whose crews would be terrified and surprised to get attacked, I might feel some bit of remorse. Anyway, the crews of my targets are not my concern.
Incidentally, using smaller and more specialized ships (frigates, or T2 ships) reduces the number of damned souls. Perhaps this conundrum has a built-in lesson for some of those militia pilots who decide to fly the biggest and shiniest ship available. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
1137
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:18:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:kraiklyn Asatru wrote:He is talking about the poor chump in maintenance and that guy that cleans up. They signed up for it presumably knowing what they were getting into. If I were raiding peaceful industrial vessels in hisec, whose crews would be terrified and surprised to get attacked, I might feel some bit of remorse. Anyway, the crews of my targets are not my concern. Incidentally, using smaller and more specialized ships (frigates, or T2 ships) reduces the number of damned souls. Perhaps this conundrum has a built-in lesson for some of those militia pilots who decide to fly the biggest and shiniest ship available.
The word is "kinslayer", sir. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2509
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:12:00 -
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I prefer "tough love" or "pragmatism". More competent capsuleers, not happier janitors, will win the war. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
1137
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:20:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:I prefer "tough love" or "pragmatism". More competent capsuleers, not happier janitors, will win the war.
I am not surprised you would prefer these terms, sir. Better to think oneself a strict teacher than the murderer of brothers and sisters.
This does little to wash the blood from your hands, however. |
Drax Concrilla
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
27
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:33:00 -
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Scherezad wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:I prefer "tough love" or "pragmatism". More competent capsuleers, not happier janitors, will win the war. I am not surprised you would prefer these terms, sir. Better to think oneself a strict teacher than the murderer of brothers and sisters. This does little to wash the blood from your hands, however.
While I'm flattered by your backhanded comment (practically assuming that we never lose a battle and thus condemn poor souls to death) I would like to point out that we, indeed, do not force a crew's death by any means. These crews put their faith in their Capsuleer to keep them safe and to act in a prudent fashion. Should the Capsuleer's actions result in his or her crew's death that is solely the Capsuleer's responsibility, is it not?
As Petrus has pointed out, these are fighting men and women. They know the risks. Should a pilot wish to save the lives of their non-immortal crew(s) they only need to practice and perfect evasive maneuvers, important training we are also willing to provide.
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Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
1137
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:53:00 -
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Drax Concrilla wrote:Scherezad wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:I prefer "tough love" or "pragmatism". More competent capsuleers, not happier janitors, will win the war. I am not surprised you would prefer these terms, sir. Better to think oneself a strict teacher than the murderer of brothers and sisters. This does little to wash the blood from your hands, however. While I'm flattered by your backhanded comment (practically assuming that we never lose a battle and thus condemn poor souls to death) I would like to point out that we, indeed, do not force a crew's death by any means. These crews put their faith in their Capsuleer to keep them safe and to act in a prudent fashion. Should the Capsuleer's actions result in his or her crew's death that is solely the Capsuleer's responsibility, is it not? As Petrus has pointed out, these are fighting men and women. They know the risks. Should a Capsuleer wish to save the lives of their non-immortal crew(s) they need only to practice and perfect evasive maneuvers, important training we are also willing to provide.
"They knew the risks!" the Capsule-Captains' cry, "They knew what they were coming to!" he says as crewmen die. "They knew that I would wield the gun, they knew I'd swing the sword, They knew that there was danger!" as his crewmen come aboard.
Their bodies float among the stars, their corpse-blood on the hull, "They knew!" the Capsule-Captain said when his bloody work was done. No words could sway the clones' hard heart, he knew that he was right, The death and blood were side-effects, not products of the fight.
These words bring absolution, they seem so rightly-made, Made just for Capsule-Captains to send crews off to their graves. For killing kin is easy work, but holding blame is tough, Best let the crewmen do that job, they're best-made for that stuff. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2509
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:12:00 -
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Very eloquent, but there's no real argument made other than an appeal to emotion. That counts for little in war, though. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
1141
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:22:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Very eloquent, but there's no real argument made other than an appeal to emotion. That counts for little in war, though.
I apologize, sir, I will be more clear.
That they know there will be danger does not absolve you of any responsibility for the deaths. You are the one with the gun, and you are the one launching the salvo. No words will change that. |
Drax Concrilla
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
27
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:47:00 -
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Scherezad wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Very eloquent, but there's no real argument made other than an appeal to emotion. That counts for little in war, though. I apologize, sir, I will be more clear. That they know there will be danger does not absolve you of any responsibility for the deaths. You are the one with the gun, and you are the one launching the salvo. No words will change that.
You're almost there my friend. I will not deny the portions I have emphasized above; however, it remains the Capsule-captain's responsibility to react and protect both himself and his crew in such a situation. Thus, the term live fire exercise.
We are the cause.
We are not the effect.
Should the Capsule-captain prove himself competent he will succeed in preserving his ship, and his crew. In many of the exercises I run I don't even restrict the opposing captain's warp drive. Yet they still freely fly their crew into apparent danger, quite recklessly, and do not take the out I have provided them.
Tell me that these pilots are not responsible for their crew's demise?
Now, refraining from using a Warp Scrambler is not the live fire exercise standard, I will admit. However, one simply cannot absolve the Capsule-captain of their responsibility to protect their ship and crew when they had every tool at their disposal to escape.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1656
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:04:00 -
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kraiklyn Asatru wrote:He is talking about the poor chump in maintenance and that guy that cleans up..
It is why I mainly hire Amarrians, means I don't feel bad when my ship goes poof. Just make sure you don't let them know you are minmatar militia.. Don't worry to much once they are on board most want to live... Just happens I skimp on the escape pods, only officers get on those :P
I shall remember this, the next time I crack the hull on a TLF ship. War criminals, funnily enough, are seldom covered by war crimes statutes. |
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1657
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:10:00 -
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Drax Concrilla wrote:Scherezad wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Very eloquent, but there's no real argument made other than an appeal to emotion. That counts for little in war, though. I apologize, sir, I will be more clear. That they know there will be danger does not absolve you of any responsibility for the deaths. You are the one with the gun, and you are the one launching the salvo. No words will change that. You're almost there my friend. I will not deny the portions I have emphasized above; however, it remains the Capsule-captain's responsibility to react and protect both himself and his crew in such a situation. Thus, the term live fire exercise. We are the cause. We are not the effect. Should the Capsule-captain prove himself competent he will succeed in preserving his ship, and his crew. In many of the exercises I run I don't even restrict the opposing captain's warp drive. Yet they still freely fly their crew into apparent danger, quite recklessly, and do not take the out I have provided them. Tell me that these pilots are not responsible for their crew's demise? Now, refraining from using a Warp Scrambler is not the live fire exercise standard, I will admit. However, one simply cannot absolve the Capsule-captain of their responsibility to protect their ship and crew when they had every tool at their disposal to escape.
When you pull the trigger, physics is not the killer. By all means contend that the deaths are necessary, but never try to weasel out of responsibility, Captain. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1379
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:26:00 -
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Drax Concrilla wrote:
Now, refraining from using a Warp Scrambler is not the live fire exercise standard, I will admit. However, one simply cannot absolve the Capsule-captain of their responsibility to protect their ship and crew when they had every tool at their disposal to escape.
Particularly so in today's environment of lax militia standards. More than once I have entered a military control point, and engaged capsuleers that had not even had their weapons hardpoints uncapped. Instead, their ships had been engineered solely for speed and warp stability, as if they were to be competing in some sort of race. These ships were fit to run, not to defend and control militia strategic assets. And yet these people are rewarded with good scrip and praised for a job well done, simply for standing a post for a time. Would a ground troop be so well accepted were he to stand his post in running shoes, with an unloaded weapon? Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Drax Concrilla
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
27
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:52:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:When you pull the trigger, physics is not the killer. By all means contend that the deaths are necessary, but never try to weasel out of responsibility, Captain.
I accept full responsibility for willingly firing my weapons upon other capsuleers, I've never tried to avoid that. Yet, I refuse to take sole responsibility for the deaths of inept captain's crews. Especially when I have not precluded them from escaping the situation.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1657
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:54:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Drax Concrilla wrote:
Now, refraining from using a Warp Scrambler is not the live fire exercise standard, I will admit. However, one simply cannot absolve the Capsule-captain of their responsibility to protect their ship and crew when they had every tool at their disposal to escape.
Particularly so in today's environment of lax militia standards. More than once I have entered a military control point, and engaged capsuleers that had not even had their weapons hardpoints uncapped. Instead, their ships had been engineered solely for speed and warp stability, as if they were to be competing in some sort of race. These ships were fit to run, not to defend and control militia strategic assets. And yet these people are rewarded with good scrip and praised for a job well done, simply for standing a post for a time. Would a ground troop be so well accepted were he to stand his post in running shoes, with an unloaded weapon?
I think you are out of date, Captain. The baseline defenders prevent the capturing of the military complex. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2510
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:56:00 -
[45] - Quote
Scherezad wrote:That they know there will be danger does not absolve you of any responsibility for the deaths. You are the one with the gun, and you are the one launching the salvo. No words will change that.
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:When you pull the trigger, physics is not the killer. By all means contend that the deaths are necessary, but never try to weasel out of responsibility, Captain.
Just as a drill instructor is responsible for any bruises a soldier incurs during physical training, I am responsible for the oblivion of the crew of incompetent Minmatar militia capsuleers. It is of course unfortunate that those injuries happen, but they are necessary in order to improve performance in the long run.
By signing up to fly with a capsuleer, they knowingly enlisted in a very dangerous endeavor where death is around every corner, even if the circumstance is something as trivial as a training exercise. Since they are fine with that, I have no regret or remorse about their deaths. Whether I am wholly, partially or not at all responsible is moot.
All that matters is that the one in charge -- the capsuleer -- learned a lesson and will be better prepared in the future. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2510
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Posted - 2013.09.10 18:18:00 -
[46] - Quote
For the curious and inquisitive, I have set up the Point Blank Alliance killboard to display an ongoing record of training-related engagements we have had. Due to technical limitations, it cannot automatically follow alliances that support a militia, so those had to be added manually. Right now, in addition to the Minmatar and Gallente militias, it is monitoring:
- WINMATAR.
- Late Night Alliance
- T.R.I.A.D
- Ushra'Khan
- Electus Matari
- Defiant Legacy
I am sure I missed some big ones, so if you could indicate who else I should be tracking, I would be grateful.
So far, Late Night Alliance have the best performance, passing a majority of tests, and occasionally collaborating in order to destroy real Amarr enemies.
The poorest performance has been seen out of the Gallente militia (Federal Defense Union plus participating corporations). Many of them appear to lack basic combat training and fitting sense. Thankfully, Zao Amadues has been doing an admirable job showing them where they err. The alliance with the poorest performance so far is WINMATAR., who, despite having played an important role in the recent Minmatar victory, seem to have a wealth of overconfident pilots who forget that it is skill and knowledge that wins a fight, not boisterous posturing.
So far, students have lost approximately 2,750,000,000 ISK of materiel, and that number continues to rapidly rise. It is my hope that we can reach a point where the rate of increase slows down, to a halt if possible. We have a long road ahead of us... Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
87
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Posted - 2013.09.10 18:43:00 -
[47] - Quote
These training exercises could be performed in simulation at no loss of life. Though this whole ordeal shows something...
Capsuleers seem to care more for their own betterment than that of the people they supposedly serve to protect.
-Eran |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2512
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:06:00 -
[48] - Quote
Eran Mintor wrote:These training exercises could be performed in simulation at no loss of life. No, they cannot. They test preparedness and reaction time in addition to skill and knowledge. Simulations are one thing. Real life is another.
Eran Mintor wrote:Capsuleers seem to care more for their own betterment than that of the people they supposedly serve to protect. I don't think joining in the militia requires ascribing to any sort of dedication to protection or betterment of the respective nation's militia. It is simply a legal contract to lend your combat services to the faction in exchange for payment, with the advantage of being CONCORD-legal. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
88
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:08:00 -
[49] - Quote
So all the posturing made against Amarr and for the Minmatar is just that, posturing? You're really just in this for profit? Interesting.
-Eran |
Drax Concrilla
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
27
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:37:00 -
[50] - Quote
Eran Mintor wrote:So all the posturing made against Amarr and for the Minmatar is just that, posturing? You're really just in this for profit? Interesting.
-Eran
You should really look into joining the judicial branch of the militia my friend! Should we be in it "only for the money" would we not be actively in the militia ranks? Indeed, I hear that the Tribal Liberation Force pay scale has been quite generous as of late. Petrus was simply pointing out an unfortunate fact. Currently one must have only the slightest loyalty to join the militia of any of the major nations.
As for posturing, one can hardly deny that there is much posturing going on by both sides, both literal and metaphorical. The nature of such posturing however, largely falls outside the scope of this live fire exercise - though I will gladly discuss the matter with you elsewhere. |
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1382
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:40:00 -
[51] - Quote
Eran Mintor wrote:So all the posturing made against Amarr and for the Minmatar is just that, posturing? You're really just in this for profit? Interesting.
-Eran
These proxy wars are little more than posturing between the Empires in and of themselves, regardless of the motivations of any individual capsuleer involved in them. They seem to serve as little more than a diversionary tactic and moderate enticement to keep as many of us as is possible in the border zones, and away from the general affairs of our respective governments. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2512
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:50:00 -
[52] - Quote
Eran Mintor wrote: You're really just in this for profit? If by "you" you mean the vast majority of capsuleers in the militias, then yes. The next largest group is only there so the policelets them shoot stuff legally. Only very few are there out of real fealty toward their nation.
We are not officially participating in the militia at this moment, since profit does not really concern us. Being officially unaffiliated in the same area and shooting both sides of the war (albeit each for different reasons) simply gets us labeled as "pirates", gets the police angry at us, et cetera. It is far better than the alternative of staying in the militia for profit, then being labeled as traitors for trying to conduct these live fire exercises. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1666
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:30:00 -
[53] - Quote
Ironically, as one of the few Loyalists in the Militia, Concord is bent on redefining me as a criminal because doing my duty doesn't mesh with their arbitrary legal system. |
Shiki Mikkyou
11
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:54:00 -
[54] - Quote
I am not normally given to commenting within the political sphere, but as a native of Metropolis, I find this development discouraging. I was raised on-station in the company of a number of free Matari thinkers, accomplished researchers all, and grew up shoulder-to-shoulder with their children.
From the standpoint of militia machination, this exercise cannot be considered a great aberration. It is no different than a service contract, wherein the signatory bears no charge to observe the philosophical precepts espoused by the employer. The militia fleets form and aggress as they are paid to do, and the fiery death of many thousands of otherwise productive citizens need not serve the Republic's best interest.
However, from an ethnic and historical standpoint, this contradiction that we must 'sacrifice the lives of our countrymen to better save the lives of our countrymen,' bespeaks a mentality unable to recognize its own simultaneous disdain and reverence for life. How much can one value a fellow Matari when one slaughters them so casually? Is the tribal essence so threadbare that, upon aspiring to pod pilot status, it is dissolved in mere greed?
Can the practices of the Amarr be considered so reprehensible in comparison to this scenario?
I have no stake in the charade of inter-faction conflict, but I find it regrettable that, after witnessing the Republic struggle so mightily to attain an equal footing in the quadrant, some would claw their way back into the abyss one shipwreck at a time.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
702
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Posted - 2013.09.11 00:06:00 -
[55] - Quote
I fail to see where the moral or ethical contradictions lie in serving in a militia out of a sense of duty and patriotism while also seeking to get paid. Vessels, armaments and ammunition don't grow on the proverbial trees.
Or is it more noble to go fight your enemies by throwing rocks at their tanks because the thought of shooting people in the face and then getting a paycheque for it is seen as so terrible and tragic?
I guess some need to play, "Who is the better loyalist" to themselves and to others here on the IGS, and some do not, for they understand what it means to be a freelance capsuleer, and to be in effect a corporate mercenary. I guess the cluster will always be full of those who need to play pretend in order to sleep better at night, and then there's those who know what the real rules of the games are.
For that at least, Mr. Blackshell has a degree of admiration from me, in addition to his sense of style and flair which so many appear to lack. |
Rioghal Morgan
46
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Posted - 2013.09.11 01:43:00 -
[56] - Quote
Gods in heaven, there's a lot of equivocating and feeble justifications for attacking people fighting for the country you claim loyalty for in this thread. You'd be better off just admitting you've gone pirate. |
Rune Ainur
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.09.11 06:23:00 -
[57] - Quote
Rioghal Morgan wrote:Gods in heaven, there's a lot of equivocating and feeble justifications for attacking people fighting for the country you claim loyalty for in this thread. You'd be better off just admitting you've gone pirate.
He's being a smuglord about it, but I honestly can't figure out why. So far, their killboard is a yawn fest and has a lot of red.
No wonder they "left" the TLF. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
91
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Posted - 2013.09.11 08:25:00 -
[58] - Quote
Here is a shovel.
There is a plot.
Dig.
-Eran |
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
813
|
Posted - 2013.09.11 09:10:00 -
[59] - Quote
Shiki Mikkyou wrote: How much can one value a fellow Matari when one slaughters them so casually? You could level this at any member of the Republic military that fires on Amarrian vessels. Ethnic minmatar serve as crew, after all.
I suspect the answer is that they care less about individual Minmatar and more about Minmatar culture or government, the tribes, or simply freedom from foreign rule. Eggs, omelettes - you know the saying. Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2516
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Posted - 2013.09.11 13:55:00 -
[60] - Quote
Makkal Hanaya wrote:I suspect the answer is that they care less about individual Minmatar and more about Minmatar culture or government, the tribes, or simply freedom from foreign rule. Eggs, omelettes - you know the saying. You've got the idea. It's unfortunate that some captains won't learn unless they are faced with the hard truth that they are not good enough and will get blown up, but it is what it is.
Rioghal Morgan wrote:You'd be better off just admitting you've gone pirate. And pirates are motivated by... what? Greed? If that were the case, wouldn't we stay in the Minmatar militia and get paid preposterous amounts for very little and easy work?
If you're going to accuse us of something, at least choose something with more aplomb and that is not contradictory to what we have already said, like maybe calling us sociopaths or morally corrupt crazy people.
Shiki Mikkyou wrote:However, from an ethnic and historical standpoint, this contradiction that we must 'sacrifice the lives of our countrymen to better save the lives of our countrymen,' bespeaks a mentality unable to recognize its own simultaneous disdain and reverence for life. How much can one value a fellow Matari when one slaughters them so casually?
You are probably not familiar with my views. I do not fight out of loyalty to a nation. It does not make sense to: the Republic regularly chases me out of their high security space as a consequence of my doing my duties in their militia. When I was in the militia, I fought for them since they paid me. Now, there is no debt between the Republic and me, so I simply consider myself neutral and detached.
What i do fight for is the principle of freedom through self-determination. It just so happens that this aligns with the Republic and Federation mindset, so I help them. Right now, that involves hardening the capsuleer forces in the militia. I care not if their crews are Amarrian or Matari, so long as they are there of their own choice. That distinction is the difference between captains whom I prod towards growth, and captains I destroy with prejudice.
Incidentally, if anyone gets shot down by Point Blank Alliance and wishes to go a step further toward self-improvement, they are perfectly welcome to have a post-mortem discussion with us to figure out why things went the way they did, and how to do better next time. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2519
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:02:00 -
[61] - Quote
Rune Ainur wrote:He's being a smuglord about it, but I honestly can't figure out why. So far, their killboard is a yawn fest and has a lot of red. My apologies for not satisfying your craving for bloodshed. How may this humble frigate-centric corporation please you? Perhaps taking down a titan? We'll work on that.
Or maybe you're expecting all of our fights to be risk-free by using uber-expensive ships backed up with logistics, ECM, and warfare links, perhaps while also several billion ISK of implants in our heads and who knows what performance-enhancing substances running through our veins? What would our charges learn from that? If the students can never pass a test, what is their incentive to improve?
Rune Ainur wrote:No wonder they "left" the TLF.
Are you implying the departure was not due to our own choice to do so? Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Rioghal Morgan
46
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Posted - 2013.09.11 17:36:00 -
[62] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:Rioghal Morgan wrote:You'd be better off just admitting you've gone pirate. And pirates are motivated by... what? Greed? If that were the case, wouldn't we stay in the Minmatar militia and get paid preposterous amounts for very little and easy work? If you're going to accuse us of something, at least choose something with more aplomb and that is not contradictory to what we have already said, like maybe calling us sociopaths or morally corrupt crazy people. Never accused you of greed. There's more than a few pirates out here who's only motivation is sheer blood-lust.
This whole 'training" people thing is a farce. Don't know why you persist in it. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2519
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:43:00 -
[63] - Quote
Rioghal Morgan wrote:There's more than a few pirates out here who's only motivation is sheer blood-lust. I usually don't call those pirates, but I can't find a better word for it, so whatever.
Anyway, If I were motivated by bloodlust, I wouldn't be offering to help any of my victims. I would simply revel in the killing and in laughing in the local system's comm channel.
If I am motivated by bloodlust, as you claim, what do you think I'm gaining by holding an open conversation about my corp's activities in the Summit? Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Rioghal Morgan
Pixel Navigators
46
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:06:00 -
[64] - Quote
The thing is, you aren't 'helping" anyone, you're slaughtering baseliner crews who are doing nothing wrong in the name of teaching a lesson to a group of people who are damn near impossible to teach anything due to their thickheadedness.
As to why you're bothering with the pretense is beyond me. Perhaps so you have a reason for what you've done if you ever rejoin the militia and attempt to rebuild ties.
Half the population of the militias doesn't care what your previous allegiances or actions are as long as you're on their side so there's no need for this. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2519
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:54:00 -
[65] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:As I have just received a surprised message from an Electus Matari diplomat (Bronnwynn), I thought that a public announcement of the status of Rifterlings and Point Blank Alliance in the Amarr/Minmatar war zone would be appropriate, to clear any further confusion.
I just thought everyone should know, and to offer a venue for conversation and progress announcements. I even discussed a little bit of my philosophy! Whether you believe me or not, and how you act on that belief, is up to you. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Rioghal Morgan
Pixel Navigators
46
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:25:00 -
[66] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:As I have just received a surprised message from an Electus Matari diplomat (Bronnwynn), I thought that a public announcement of the status of Rifterlings and Point Blank Alliance in the Amarr/Minmatar war zone would be appropriate, to clear any further confusion. I just thought everyone should know, and to offer a venue for conversation and progress announcements. I even discussed a little bit of my philosophy! Whether you believe me or not, and how you act on that belief, is up to you. Fair enough. |
Pinky Feldman
NO MOAR TEARS I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
585
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Posted - 2013.09.12 20:23:00 -
[67] - Quote
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:He is talking about the poor chump in maintenance and that guy that cleans up..
It is why I mainly hire Amarrians, means I don't feel bad when my ship goes poof. Just make sure you don't let them know you are minmatar militia.. Don't worry to much once they are on board most want to live... Just happens I skimp on the escape pods, only officers get on those :P
Surely this comment was made purely for the shock value. I would never dream of treating my crew that way, regardless of their cultural upbringing.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2526
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Posted - 2013.09.13 05:38:00 -
[68] - Quote
Pinky Feldman wrote:Surely this comment was made purely for the shock value. I would never dream of treating my crew that way, regardless of their cultural upbringing. An interesting amount of compassion from someone who just a few months ago was chest-beating about the awesomeness of sacrificing thousands of innocents in a barbaric ritual.
Anyway, in other news, one of the organizations I mentioned is under special observation has just crossed a major line. WINMATAR. (an alliance led by the Biohazard. corp), who are to credit for the Minmatar warzone success of late, decided to turn against their brethren and allies by declaring war on a fellow militia corporation, Pixel Navigators.
Point Blank Alliance will not stand idly by for this shameless bullying of allies, and has offered its help by allying with Pixel Navigators against WINMATAR.. Hostilities are CONCORD-sanctioned starting about 20 hours. You can check our progress at educating WINMATAR. on our Galnet portal under the "Hazmat Cleanup" campaign.
In the past month-and-a-half, Point Blank Alliance has relieved WINMATAR. of 3.12 billion ISK of assets, while losing less than a quarter of that in the process. This is abysmally substandard. We have irons in the fire to boost that number a lot -- and hopefully, WINMATAR.'s proficiency with it. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Pinky Feldman
NO MOAR TEARS I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
585
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Posted - 2013.09.13 07:49:00 -
[69] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote:Surely this comment was made purely for the shock value. I would never dream of treating my crew that way, regardless of their cultural upbringing. An interesting amount of compassion from someone who just a few months ago was chest-beating about the awesomeness of sacrificing thousands of innocents in a barbaric ritual. Anyway, in other news, one of the organizations I mentioned is under special observation has just crossed a major line. WINMATAR. (an alliance led by the Biohazard. corp), who are to credit for the Minmatar warzone success of late, decided to turn against their brethren and allies by declaring war on a fellow militia corporation, Pixel Navigators. Point Blank Alliance will not stand idly by for this shameless bullying of allies, and has offered its help by allying with Pixel Navigators against WINMATAR.. Hostilities are CONCORD-sanctioned starting about 20 hours. You can check our progress at educating WINMATAR. on our Galnet portal under the "Hazmat Cleanup" campaign. In the past month-and-a-half, Point Blank Alliance has relieved WINMATAR. of 3.12 billion ISK of assets, while losing less than a quarter of that in the process. This is abysmally substandard. We have irons in the fire to boost that number a lot -- and hopefully, WINMATAR.'s proficiency with it.
I find your claims a bit suspect considering WINMATAR. is a group that takes pride and often brags about their pacifist approach to warzone control. Surely a group so heavily dedicated to avoiding combat is only attempting to make a statement with their war declaration. So quick you are to turn a warning into more bloodshed.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
101
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Posted - 2013.09.13 08:59:00 -
[70] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote:Surely this comment was made purely for the shock value. I would never dream of treating my crew that way, regardless of their cultural upbringing. An interesting amount of compassion from someone who just a few months ago was chest-beating about the awesomeness of sacrificing thousands of innocents in a barbaric ritual. Anyway, in other news, one of the organizations I mentioned is under special observation has just crossed a major line. WINMATAR. (an alliance led by the Biohazard. corp), who are to credit for the Minmatar warzone success of late, decided to turn against their brethren and allies by declaring war on a fellow militia corporation, Pixel Navigators. Point Blank Alliance will not stand idly by for this shameless bullying of allies, and has offered its help by allying with Pixel Navigators against WINMATAR.. Hostilities are CONCORD-sanctioned starting about 20 hours. You can check our progress at educating WINMATAR. on our Galnet portal under the "Hazmat Cleanup" campaign. In the past month-and-a-half, Point Blank Alliance has relieved WINMATAR. of 3.12 billion ISK of assets, while losing less than a quarter of that in the process. This is abysmally substandard. We have irons in the fire to boost that number a lot -- and hopefully, WINMATAR.'s proficiency with it.
I'm unconvinced that you do this to defend your former allies rather as a cover of coincidence. Seems to me you were already killing these Matari pilots so I don't see much difference here besides removing certain consequence of aggression by bribing CONCORD.
The irony and hypocrisy is quite astounding to me.
Please proceed though and contine your reporting. I'm finding this conflict to be increasingly interesting (ie. Amusing).
-Eran |
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2528
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Posted - 2013.09.13 13:44:00 -
[71] - Quote
Pinky Feldman wrote:I find your claims a bit suspect considering WINMATAR. is a group that takes pride and often brags about their pacifist approach to warzone control. Surely a group so heavily dedicated to avoiding combat is only attempting to make a statement with their war declaration. So quick you are to turn a warning into more bloodshed. I'm not sure where you got "pacifist" from. In my experience, WINMATAR. are belligerent and proud to a fault. If you would like to read about the events leading up to the war, feel free to. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2721
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Posted - 2013.09.13 14:16:00 -
[72] - Quote
Why are you people never around when WE show up?
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2528
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Posted - 2013.09.13 14:30:00 -
[73] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Why are you people never around when WE show up? When do you show up? Our activity primetime is 0100-0500 ET every day. We're still a rather small corp, and to encourage corp cohesion, we have not spread out throughout the rest of the day. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2721
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Posted - 2013.09.13 14:41:00 -
[74] - Quote
...Oh. Maybe that's why....dammit.
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Sai Weisman
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
0
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Posted - 2013.09.21 20:05:00 -
[75] - Quote
As a novice fleet commander, I volunteered my fleets regularly for undergoing live fire training. After months of careful observation, we came to understand the advanced, high level tactics used by the experienced pilots of the Point Blank Alliance.
The Rifterlings have perfected a maneuver called "Flying Really Fast And Not Shooting A Lot," which is highly effective against pilots that do not fly really fast and expect to get shot often. It was initially very effective, because it was always a surprise when they did shoot. We suffered heavy losses. We have since adapted to the tactic by using ships and weapons capable of hitting things that fly really fast and using ships that perform well when not being shot at, which has led to a vast improvement in our performance in the "isk war" of the ongoing war which the Rifterlings have joined. Most of our current lead probably comes from finishing off that one random Heavy Assault Cruiser, but I digress.
We have also adopted the tactic of "Flying Really Fast And Not Shooting A Lot" ourselves. Tristans have proved invaluable in these operations, as they not only fly really fast and don't shoot a lot, they can also deploy many drones which fly even faster, allowing pilots to delegate the "not shooting a lot" portion of the strategy. Mediocre results have already been achieved, and I am losing Tristans as quickly as I can in the attempt to improve on specifics of the implementation of this brilliant new strategy. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
138
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Posted - 2013.09.22 06:23:00 -
[76] - Quote
The derp is strong in this one.
-Eran |
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