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Baggo Hammers
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:55:00 -
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For years I have had fun, and made isk exploring. However, with the recent changes exploration has been reduced to a kiddie game. I would not mind that so much, but the loot is just horrible. I am aware of "random is random" but please. Taking the rats out of sites other than WHs has also created a bunch of noobs flying around in unarmed ships thinking wow this exploration is a hoot!
However, they then dip into low or null and well, the fun stops.
As a result of these changes which have turned exploration from, well.......exploration, into drudgery, I have decided to let the noobs do the mind-numbing scanning and mini-games. I will then blow them up and take their stuff.
I lived a clean life before this. Thanks CCP. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1475
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:26:00 -
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inb4 trolling... "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Jim Era
7505
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:01:00 -
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You sound quite angry. Would you like a scanning buddy? |
Baggo Hammers
72
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:17:00 -
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I'm not angry at all. A bit disappointed I guess. The post was meant to be a bit humorous. Sorry if I missed the mark!
Not much in video games get me that upset. If I was I would stop playing. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |
Sarineka Wong
Touring New Eden
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:51:00 -
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I look forward to meeting you out in space OP. I hope you like chasing after my exhaust pipe. Point first, immediately regret later. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
239
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:00:00 -
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So CCP makes gameplay appeal to more players, and offers you what is imo a more fun lifestyle (shooting other people) and its to the forums with pitchforks time ?
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Baggo Hammers
72
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:01:00 -
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I thought I was clear. I am not ranting. Here is the deal. New players can now easily scan and are doing so in large numbers. As a result those items that get taken are sold en masse and prices drop exponentially making exploration less profitable. Also, the loot in null is no different than the loot in high.
What is there to aim for? It's the same whether you started last week or 5 years ago. No T2 exploration. All the same.
And yes I enjoy shooting folks more now. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
MIS Auxiliaries Kadeshians
29
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:20:00 -
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Wormhole sites still have sleeper 'rats' if you still want a challenge.
I like reading the tears of people who get their **** changed by CCP on patch day because they don't know how to read forums or dev blogs, but this change that your talking about happened on June 4th, 2013.
Even if this was meant to be a 'hue hue' post it would have been much funnier 3 months ago.
On a lighter note: I like using a covert/probe fit legion to kill noob explorers, but I like to wait until they have finished the site. That way I get the kill AND the loot. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! |
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
192
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Posted - 2013.09.05 04:33:00 -
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I agree that you are not ranting.
But I do see the need for CCP to add a box of tissues to exploration to help get you back into it with something you can use. |
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille Gallente Federation
197
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Posted - 2013.09.05 04:58:00 -
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Baggo Hammers wrote:I thought I was clear. I am not ranting. Here is the deal. New players can now easily scan and are doing so in large numbers. As a result those items that get taken are sold en masse and prices drop exponentially making exploration less profitable. Also, the loot in null is no different than the loot in high.
What is there to aim for? It's the same whether you started last week or 5 years ago. No T2 exploration. All the same.
And yes I enjoy shooting folks more now.
I understand, as I have recently come to the same conclusion, the mini-game is not there for the enjoyment of the game. It's there to give the hunter the valuable seconds required to track the mini-gamer down! |
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
491
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Posted - 2013.09.05 05:38:00 -
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I feel that if CCP were to look into this thread, they would say "now that's working as intended". Whatever they may be thinking :D |
Mnemosyne Gloob
Acerbus Vindictum Stealth Wear Inc.
119
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:12:00 -
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Donbe Scurred wrote:I understand, as I have recently come to the same conclusion, the mini-game is not there for the enjoyment of the game. It's there to give the hunter the valuable seconds required to track the mini-gamer down!
If only 99% of the mini-gamers weren't in stabbed t1 scanning frigs. That's my main gripe. sure i sometimes hop into my bomber when i see the opportunity, but it is kinda worthless/fruitless. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1413
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:27:00 -
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Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:Donbe Scurred wrote:I understand, as I have recently come to the same conclusion, the mini-game is not there for the enjoyment of the game. It's there to give the hunter the valuable seconds required to track the mini-gamer down! If only 99% of the mini-gamers weren't in stabbed t1 scanning frigs. That's my main gripe. sure i sometimes hop into my bomber when i see the opportunity, but it is kinda worthless/fruitless. alpha thrasher says hello
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Icarus Able
Traverse Holdings
80
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Posted - 2013.09.06 12:34:00 -
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Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:Donbe Scurred wrote:I understand, as I have recently come to the same conclusion, the mini-game is not there for the enjoyment of the game. It's there to give the hunter the valuable seconds required to track the mini-gamer down! If only 99% of the mini-gamers weren't in stabbed t1 scanning frigs. That's my main gripe. sure i sometimes hop into my bomber when i see the opportunity, but it is kinda worthless/fruitless.
Fit Double/Triple Scram. |
March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
745
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:03:00 -
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Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:Donbe Scurred wrote:I understand, as I have recently come to the same conclusion, the mini-game is not there for the enjoyment of the game. It's there to give the hunter the valuable seconds required to track the mini-gamer down! If only 99% of the mini-gamers weren't in stabbed t1 scanning frigs. That's my main gripe. sure i sometimes hop into my bomber when i see the opportunity, but it is kinda worthless/fruitless. scanning frigate BY DESIGN has no any offensive/defensive capabilities. using WCS is the only way they can TRY to keep themself alive.
Personally i think this is stupid: making explorers defenseless thus forcing them to use WSC and forcing attackers to alpha/multi-point fits. But this is CCPs POV to PvP: make it one-sided "to force people to fight". Lvl4s in low-sec shows success of this POV |
Mnemosyne Gloob
Acerbus Vindictum Stealth Wear Inc.
121
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Posted - 2013.09.06 17:42:00 -
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Icarus Able wrote:Fit Double/Triple Scram.
Sure, i have that. My point was that killing them is more like not worth my time .. and after 10-15 minutes there will be the next one coming. it's like the farmers in FW basically, sure you can try to outsmart those cloaky-stabbed t1 frigs and sometimes get one, but it just doesnt seem justified by the effort. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
780
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Posted - 2013.09.06 21:35:00 -
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You might want to check incursions before trashing your security status and faction standings.
Baggo Hammers wrote:mind-numbing scanning
This abomination of mini-game is a barrier to me for both exploration and WH space. Can't believe someone could decide this process can be fun or interesting. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
10996
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Posted - 2013.09.07 20:56:00 -
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Yeah, exploration is no longer about skill or experience.
All sites can now be scanned equally by either noob or vet. No need to worry about losing probes either. Talk about a never ending story. It's now become instant notification. All ships can now see all sites due to the system sweep..
No where to run to, no place to hide.
This is especially true for Mining ships since Ore / Ice sites were moved to anomalies. Talk about a gankers wet dream *** true, they even got Tags for security now to basically continue their rampage unchecked. If they run out of tags, they can quickly gain back security status just by ratting since the timer has now been reduced from 20 minutes to 5 minutes.
As for the Combat sites - Loot drops, Commander NPC spawns and escalations have all been stealthily nerfed back to the stone age.
The Relic / Data site changes have to be the worst. It's basically been turned into a gankers self serve station due to the time and immense Hacking window that blocks most of the screen. CCP has turned what use to be fun into a droll click fest which after completing the site, the lousy loot drops still have to be chased down.
Yeah, I'm not a happy camper at all. In fact, I'm thinking about joining the OP myself.
DMC
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Donbe Scurred
University of Caille Gallente Federation
198
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Posted - 2013.09.07 21:26:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote: Yeah, I'm not a happy camper at all. In fact, I'm thinking about joining the OP myself.
Welcome to the dark side, can't speak for Baggo but I'm having a lot more fun now.
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Xicho
Damned Yankees Insidious Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.08 18:41:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Yeah, exploration is no longer about skill or experience.
All sites can now be scanned equally by either noob or vet. No need to worry about losing probes either. Talk about a never ending story. It's now become instant notification. All ships can now see all sites due to the system sweep..
No where to run to, no place to hide.
This is especially true for Mining ships since Ore / Ice sites were moved to anomalies. Talk about a gankers wet dream come true, they even got Tags for security now to basically continue their rampage unchecked. If they run out of tags, they can quickly gain back security status just by ratting since the timer has now been reduced from 20 minutes to 5 minutes.
As for the Combat sites - Loot drops, Commander NPC spawns and escalations have all been stealthily nerfed back to the stone age.
The Relic / Data site changes have to be the worst. It's basically been turned into a gankers self serve station due to the time and immense Hacking window that blocks most of the screen. CCP has turned what use to be fun into a droll click fest which after completing the site, the lousy loot drops still have to be chased down.
Yeah, I'm not a happy camper at all. In fact, I'm thinking about joining the OP myself.
DMC
Sweet, sweet glorious DMC tears. Join me on the dark side buddy. Lets do this.
-ES
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
11035
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Posted - 2013.09.08 20:17:00 -
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Xicho wrote:Sweet, sweet glorious DMC tears. Join me on the dark side buddy. Lets do this.
-ES
Tears?
I just stated facts and posted in agreement with the OP.
But the Dark Side is looking like a bright career choice.
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Xicho
Damned Yankees Insidious Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.09.08 20:31:00 -
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Wanna join EMP? |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
11036
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Posted - 2013.09.08 20:59:00 -
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Thanks for the offer, definitely something to think about.
Please send me an Eve Mail listing all requirements and don't forget to include the fine print.
DMC
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Xicho
Damned Yankees Insidious Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:07:00 -
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Unblock me so we can chat bud.
-ES |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
11037
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:08:00 -
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Oh, good one. Gratz. You had me going there for a minute.
I just now realized ES stands for Emperor Salazar.
Just exactly how many alt characters do you have active? Doesn't matter anyway, old habits are hard to break and old grudges are even harder to let go.
Having said that I must respectfully decline. Thanks for the offer but no thanks. The last thing I need is to worry about corp members looking to stab me in the back.
DMC
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Baggo Hammers
91
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:22:00 -
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Hey ES I miss that snotty looking Tucker Carlson guy you had for a bit...the amirite one. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |
Alex Mercury
Metallic Aviation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.09 06:22:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote: Yeah, I'm not a happy camper at all. In fact, I'm thinking about joining the OP myself. DMC
You and the OP are not alone in that thinking. |
Xicho
Damned Yankees Insidious Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.09.09 14:06:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Just exactly how many alt characters do you have active?
A lot. You should see what my Evemon looks like.
Quote: Doesn't matter anyway, old habits are hard to break
Whose old habits? Mine or yours?
Quote: and old grudges are even harder to let go.
Its an internet spaceship video game m8. Grudges are silly. Have fun. Stop taking things so seriously.
Quote:The last thing I need is to worry about corp members looking to stab me in the back.
What makes you think I'm some sort of back stabber? I think I've scammed a few people out of isk and assets here and there but...its Eve. Everyone should do that in their time. And yeah, I've trolled around for years and you and I have had some fun times but is that really a reason to hold a grudge or be wary that I'm out to get you?
Anyway, we should chat. Lets do that. We can go blow **** up together and it'll be great.
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Torrema Sinclair
Justified Chaos
54
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Posted - 2013.09.10 01:37:00 -
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Just like: "I was for years having fun just drinking alchohol with my freinds, but then they all got GF's and life became boring. So i started taking *******. Thankz cruel life"
How can something like that force u to do crime? And is that really a bad thing? |
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