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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
3
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Posted - 2013.09.06 17:14:00 -
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Bombs fly for 10sec, you get a full 10 second warning. What surprises me about bombing runs is that it gets anyone at all.
I love flying my bomber. But when things go wrong, and they often do, we can lose a whole fleet in 30secs. Its not uncommon for me to lose 2 bombers in a night.
Also some of the math is wrong. At max skills a bomb puts out 8000. That means only 6 bombs of the same type before they start destroying each other. Also a frigate only takes about 10%-20% of the damage because of small sig radius. So with 6 bombs thats about 4800 before resists for a 40m sig radius frigate. AFs with the right fit would tank that. |
Balthazar Lestrane
Viziam Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:44:00 -
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Delt0r Garsk wrote:Bombs fly for 10sec, you get a full 10 second warning. What surprises me about bombing runs is that it gets anyone at all.
I love flying my bomber. But when things go wrong, and they often do, we can lose a whole fleet in 30secs. Its not uncommon for me to lose 2 bombers in a night.
Also some of the math is wrong. At max skills a bomb puts out 8000. That means only 6 bombs of the same type before they start destroying each other. Also a frigate only takes about 10%-20% of the damage because of small sig radius. So with 6 bombs thats about 4800 before resists for a 40m sig radius frigate. AFs with the right fit would tank that.
While your math is correct, I was using 8 as the maximum as you can't guarantee that every pilot have cov ops 5 AND are all flying the same bomber. Most bombing communities generally stick to Scorch bombs to take advantage of the thermal resistance hole that is prevalent in so many hulls. Unless of course they have prior knowledge to their targets resists. 7-8 tends to be the norm that I've seen anyhow. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
2603
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Posted - 2013.09.06 20:44:00 -
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Balthazar Lestrane wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:Bombs fly for 10sec, you get a full 10 second warning. What surprises me about bombing runs is that it gets anyone at all.
I love flying my bomber. But when things go wrong, and they often do, we can lose a whole fleet in 30secs. Its not uncommon for me to lose 2 bombers in a night.
Also some of the math is wrong. At max skills a bomb puts out 8000. That means only 6 bombs of the same type before they start destroying each other. Also a frigate only takes about 10%-20% of the damage because of small sig radius. So with 6 bombs thats about 4800 before resists for a 40m sig radius frigate. AFs with the right fit would tank that. While your math is correct, I was using 8 as the maximum as you can't guarantee that every pilot have cov ops 5 AND are all flying the same bomber. Most bombing communities generally stick to Scorch bombs to take advantage of the thermal resistance hole that is prevalent in so many hulls. Unless of course they have prior knowledge to their targets resists. 7-8 tends to be the norm that I've seen anyhow.
Bombs have 240 Armor with 99.5% resists. It takes 6 full skill bombs to remove the Armor (.005 * 8k = 40 per bomb), and a 7th to destroy the structure. Since bombs don't damage themselves, you can always send 7 bombers at once, and often you can get away with 8 because people aren't in the correct bomber and don't have max skills.
Sig radius of a bomb is 400, sig of a frig is 40. A covops IV pilot does 7680 * 40 / 400 = 768 per bomb to your non-mwd base frigate. Most frig hulls have 2k (EWAR frig) to 8k (Tanky Merlin) EHP. AF's generally have 5-12k EHP, but sometimes as much as 20k when boosted by links.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3635
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Posted - 2013.09.06 21:29:00 -
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whyumad tho wrote:certain entities now use them exclusively to grind structures.
Grr Goons are doing something that CVA has done for years, this is now some sort of problem. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Dave Stark
3569
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Posted - 2013.09.06 21:50:00 -
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a ship with battleship sized weapons is doing almost battleship dps, and this is a problem? |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3637
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Posted - 2013.09.06 21:53:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:a ship with battleship sized weapons is doing almost battleship dps, and this is a problem?
It's a problem because Goons are doing it, or something. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Dave Stark
3569
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Posted - 2013.09.06 21:59:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Dave Stark wrote:a ship with battleship sized weapons is doing almost battleship dps, and this is a problem? It's a problem because Goons are doing it, or something.
believe it or not; it's not just goons. it's an epidemic! |
Trinkets friend
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
1171
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Posted - 2013.09.07 06:13:00 -
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whyumad tho wrote:Trinkets friend wrote:Their downsides are significant - you can be jammed by a single EC-300 or a ECM burst. You have the EHP of a wet tissue. You can be locked and alpha'd by a Nado or naga who will warp out before your bombs land. You are utterly dead if a ceptor or an AF gets in amongst your gang, and people can counter-bomb you and clean you all up. plus, if you jump your bomber gang onto a JB camp or (heaven forfend) a pipe bomb, it's light out everyone. Yeah, you're right, they are vulnerable to nados/afs/gate camps. If only they had some way of evading these things, like a cov ops cloa...oh wait.
You can bomb while cloa...oh wait.
whyumad tho wrote:Again, if only there was some sort of covert ops hauler (pro tip, there is) that could carry many bombs and bridge through the black ops into destination, ready to hand out bombs once the fleet had used the 4 they had. I mean seriously, do you even play this game?
So, your last complaint is that someone has an alt.
Wow.
/Charlie Sheen YOLO is the Carpe Diem of Gen Y http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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