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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:02:00 -
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price is going to skyrocket with new patch and people are already scamming sales buy buying them in bulk. current price is around 90k... after patch 15mil.
buy them now!
... a word from your friendy consumer advisor.
-LORD FROST
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:03:00 -
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allready have 2 in research  ________________
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:14:00 -
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Basic NPC price is 81k.
In a number of regions the current rate for prints is well over a milion each.
I dont know if some wealthy players have bought upp the entire supply or if there were no supply to start with but if you wish to get a few BPO's before the prices go upp make sure you buy for around 81k.
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:16:00 -
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Why did you tell everyone this? Why didnt you keep it as a secret for yourself and hoard all the super profit 
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Darmed Khan
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:21:00 -
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Does anyone actually use the tractor beams? 
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Darmed Khan Does anyone actually use the tractor beams? 
dunno, but for less then 100k it doesn`t hurts to buy a bpo now even if u never use it  ________________
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Netto
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Darmed Khan Does anyone actually use the tractor beams? 
Not me, friggin skill books are INSANELY expensive. Should have picked up the skill when it first came out but didn't realize it is an agent dropped skill. Prices anywhere from 50-300 mil... lol no thanks.
Other then that, those lucky ones who picked up the skillbooks before people went crazy with them use tractor beams all the time, and love em.
Netto
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 Why did you tell everyone this? Why didnt you keep it as a secret for yourself and hoard all the super profit 
You could have roleplayed that better. My suggestion would have been:
"Someone get this guy a Cybernetic Subprocessor"
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kerushi
Originally by: Darmed Khan Does anyone actually use the tractor beams? 
dunno, but for less then 100k it doesn`t hurts to buy a bpo now even if u never use it 
Uh because half the player base just bought multiple copies? These types of things are ISK generators if only a few people get in on them, when half my alliance has already bought a BPO it is kind of pointless.
I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide. |

Verite Rendition
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Originally by: Kerushi
Originally by: Darmed Khan Does anyone actually use the tractor beams? 
dunno, but for less then 100k it doesn`t hurts to buy a bpo now even if u never use it 
Uh because half the player base just bought multiple copies? These types of things are ISK generators if only a few people get in on them, when half my alliance has already bought a BPO it is kind of pointless.
Ya, I don't know who everyone expects to sell these BPOs to, it's not like there's a high demand for the tractor beams themselves in the first place.
---- TribalWar Inc. Director of R&D |

Quanteeri
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Quanteeri on 09/01/2006 19:32:27
Originally by: Netto
Originally by: Darmed Khan Does anyone actually use the tractor beams? 
Not me, friggin skill books are INSANELY expensive. Should have picked up the skill when it first came out but didn't realize it is an agent dropped skill. Prices anywhere from 50-300 mil... lol no thanks.
Other then that, those lucky ones who picked up the skillbooks before people went crazy with them use tractor beams all the time, and love em.
Netto
* hugs his tractor beams. They kick ass.
* is really glad he got his Graviton Physics books for a whooping 5 mil 
PS - I really doubt these will become a rare item. 
CCP has even knows it. They've added the word BIGSHOT to the URL of my avatar. |

HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:40:00 -
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you guys are aware, by the time that patch is deployed, there will be more of these BPOs than players, right?
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Syrec
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing you guys are aware, by the time that patch is deployed, there will be more of these BPOs than players, right?
Yea, I'm aware. This entire patch note thing is a great money sink. At 100k ISK for the BPO how can anyone not want to buy one? I can kill a rat in .5 and get a crappy named blaster and sell that for 600k. Might as well pick up a couple of these BPOs, you know.. just in case.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:44:00 -
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over 10000 of those have sold in the forge yesterday and today   
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing you guys are aware, by the time that patch is deployed, there will be more of these BPOs than players, right?
Yes but...
1. Buy like TONS of them now at < 100k each. 2. Patch is deployed 3. Put your BPOs on market for a bit less than NPC price (which will be at 15 million each). 4. Profit/Realize you were just undercut by 10 other people in your constellation alone
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: lofty29 Why did you tell everyone this? Why didnt you keep it as a secret for yourself and hoard all the super profit 
You could have roleplayed that better. My suggestion would have been:
"Someone get this guy a Cybernetic Subprocessor"
Winterblink quoted me...me...ME 
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Syrec
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing over 10000 of those have sold in the forge yesterday and today   
5,000 in essence. It looks like two people bought large amounts. Post-past the player sell price will be like 110k 
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Colla Teral
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: HippoKing you guys are aware, by the time that patch is deployed, there will be more of these BPOs than players, right?
Yes but...
1. Buy like TONS of them now at < 100k each. 2. Patch is deployed 3. Put your BPOs on market for a bit less than NPC price (which will be at 15 million each). 4. Profit/Realize you were just undercut by 10 other people in your constellation alone
Its a waste, just like everyone said... most peeps bought multiple copies - WTF for? LOL I bought 1, yes, just in case. Oh and the price will be about 13 Mill Per BPO. (looked on Sisi)
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Happysin
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:51:00 -
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I really look foward to selling my BPOs for 150k a piece.
That's right, I'm going to massively depress the market, and do it slow enough that people won't just be able to buy mine off the market (well, without watching the market all the time). 
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Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:54:00 -
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In my regional market there are 26 stations, each selling 416 tractor beam BPOs. That's 10,816 units. And if you buy 1, there's still 416 at each station....
Anyone want to part with stacks of money on the off chance?
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Happysin I really look foward to selling my BPOs for 150k a piece.
That's right, I'm going to massively depress the market, and do it slow enough that people won't just be able to buy mine off the market (well, without watching the market all the time). 
I think you're overestimating the demand here... :)
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Henri Trader
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:57:00 -
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by now there will be over 100k bpo's bought by everyone who thought he could make a quick buck... I pity the poor player who spend over a million on them, as after the patch everyone will try dumping them for a million or less.....and with the quantities allready purchased the market will be saturated for the next year...
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:58:00 -
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I bought 10, but everyone knows this now, so there is no point, everyone has wasted their money. -
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:59:00 -
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Thank you Lord Frost. 
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Colla Teral
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Henri Trader
by now there will be over 100k bpo's bought by everyone who thought he could make a quick buck... I pity the poor player who spend over a million on them, as after the patch everyone will try dumping them for a million or less.....and with the quantities allready purchased the market will be saturated for the next year...
     8 Bilion Out of the game - CCP FTW, good way to sink some ISK YAY.
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Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:02:00 -
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I bought one, and before you ask, no you can't have it, it's mine, my precioussss
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Syrec
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:10:00 -
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I just told ourselaert and the manufacturing channel about this lovely deal! 
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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 Thank you Lord Frost. 
Always a pleasure... 
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Fester Addams Basic NPC price is 81k.
In a number of regions the current rate for prints is well over a milion each.
I dont know if some wealthy players have bought upp the entire supply or if there were no supply to start with but if you wish to get a few BPO's before the prices go upp make sure you buy for around 81k.
Not possible. I bought one in Hageken for 81k last night, the station had 416 for sale, and after i bought one they had...
416 for sale. Also, there's about 20+ stations selling 416 of them, so only a fool would buy several thousand and think they're going to sell and get back their investment any time soon.
Originally by: Oveur I am not interested in "the lottery sucks" or "more tech 2 blueprints" since that is pretty much stating the obvious.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Fester Addams Basic NPC price is 81k.
In a number of regions the current rate for prints is well over a milion each.
I dont know if some wealthy players have bought upp the entire supply or if there were no supply to start with but if you wish to get a few BPO's before the prices go upp make sure you buy for around 81k.
Not possible. I bought one in Hageken for 81k last night, the station had 416 for sale, and after i bought one they had...
416 for sale. Also, there's about 20+ stations selling 416 of them, so only a fool would buy several thousand and think they're going to sell and get back their investment any time soon.
Originally by: Oveur I am not interested in "the lottery sucks" or "more tech 2 blueprints" since that is pretty much stating the obvious.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Netto
Originally by: Darmed Khan Does anyone actually use the tractor beams? 
Not me, friggin skill books are INSANELY expensive. Should have picked up the skill when it first came out but didn't realize it is an agent dropped skill. Prices anywhere from 50-300 mil... lol no thanks.
Other then that, those lucky ones who picked up the skillbooks before people went crazy with them use tractor beams all the time, and love em.
Netto
What are you talking about? Graviton Physics? It's not an agent dropped skill. Go exploring and you'll find that it's on sale in some regions at npc price with normal massive NPC supply.
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Bass
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Posted - 2006.01.09 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Fester Addams Basic NPC price is 81k.
In a number of regions the current rate for prints is well over a milion each.
I dont know if some wealthy players have bought upp the entire supply or if there were no supply to start with but if you wish to get a few BPO's before the prices go upp make sure you buy for around 81k.
Not possible. I bought one in Hageken for 81k last night, the station had 416 for sale, and after i bought one they had...
416 for sale. Also, there's about 20+ stations selling 416 of them, so only a fool would buy several thousand and think they're going to sell and get back their investment any time soon.
Its a stupid idea as loads of people have bought thousands so no it won't work. That said, you obviously haven't read the post anyway. You were obviously buying from npc's anyhow, thats why the price was 81k and why there was so many. Npc's i believe have an infinite supply, lol.
However their price is going up to roughly 13mil after the next patch, meaning you won't be able to buy them for 81k anymore.
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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2006.01.10 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 Why did you tell everyone this? Why didnt you keep it as a secret for yourself and hoard all the super profit 
Because not many read patch notes, and not many are informed about these changes... so call it my duty as a long time hard working player to make sure my peers get a fair shake. Not to mention I'd take every chance I could get to put the kabosh on those trying to make the quick easy buck.
Buy 100 at 80k... spend 8mil... sell just one cheaper than market value (15mil), and you already made a profit... so to be honest, my scheme to inform everyone will hardly work. I'm sure many will still make profits.
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2006.01.10 01:14:00 -
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STOP BUYING THESE BP'S!!! This is my only shot at making the billion I'm going to need to buy a freighter and I don't need the rest of you ruining the huge profits I plan on making on them. 
STOP BUYING THEM NOW!!!
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Dakath
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Posted - 2006.01.10 01:16:00 -
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1. I love my tractor beam. It really makes it easier and faster to collect loot.
2. There was another post about this BPO yesterday. By now I suppose there is not much point in buying them.
3. Still, you sometimes get profitable tips on this forum. A certain class of loot used for T2 production is in short supply. I learned about this on the forum. I cashed in on tons of the stuff that was taking up space in my hangers.

LAG!Ö |

Nolo Contendere
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Posted - 2006.01.10 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bubba Fett STOP BUYING THESE BP'S!!! This is my only shot at making the billion I'm going to need to buy a freighter and I don't need the rest of you ruining the huge profits I plan on making on them. 
STOP BUYING THEM NOW!!!
Just because you said it - I will not buy it. I hope it will contribute somewhat to Bubba Fett "Get freighter fund".
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.01.10 01:22:00 -
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"What are you talking about? Graviton Physics? It's not an agent dropped skill. Go exploring and you'll find that it's on sale in some regions at npc price with normal massive NPC supply."
There should be no NPC supply for this skill unless something is broken. In which case a bug report is in order...
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.01.10 01:30:00 -
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as of some trying to be smart and ripoff a quick buck i`ll be selling them at 99k isk (current forge price) after the patch and not trough market or escrow  ________________
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Wee Dave
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Posted - 2006.01.10 01:30:00 -
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It's bugged then. I got it from npc orders as I recall. Maybe it was unseeded recently?
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Calshim
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Posted - 2006.01.10 02:00:00 -
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Well I saw the patch notes and thought hmmmm quick buck to be made here ?
No said I they are NPC items which means they are infinate in supply at the moment so everybody is buying them at ~81k which means the market will be flooded after the patch.
This might be ok as a long term investment, like in a years time when the cheap copies have been bought up but as a quick ISK turner ... not a chance.
Good luck to all you buyers hoping to exploit the market...shame there wont be a market  --------------------------------------------------------------
*** Ba (hons) Male Bovine Excrement Speech Techniques ***
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Adam Weishaupt
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Posted - 2006.01.10 02:09:00 -
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Graviton Physics is only available from agent missions. That said, it's not -that- rare and the prices people are paying are stupid. I did a lot of agent missions once, and I checked my hangar in Empire, and, yes, five of these books...
Thank you, stupid consumers :)
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MWEI
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Posted - 2006.01.10 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: MWEI on 10/01/2006 02:21:05 Hmm, with this post, I doubt it will become 15mil
Why should it? Everyone would have thousands NPC market dosnt have buy order for BPOs, you would have to sell them to player markets. And since there wil be hundreds of people selling it, price will no doubt drop to a level you wont make much profit. In this case, the only reason anyone would buy the BPO from NPC market is they are extremly rich and cant be bothered to travel a few jumps.
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Ayla Vanir
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Posted - 2006.01.10 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur What are you talking about? Graviton Physics? It's not an agent dropped skill. Go exploring and you'll find that it's on sale in some regions at npc price with normal massive NPC supply.
It may have been NPC sold at some point. I don't know if it was. I believe it's research agents that give them now - and I don't yet know what the requirements to get such an offer is. However, if you do know for a fact that Graviton Physics is sold by NPCs at some location or other, please evemail me. Because I don't enjoy being exploited by players that knew it was going to be a pre-req skill for the Tractor Beams before they were released. (note to self, spend more time on Sisi test server to learn about future exploitable market products).
Escrow Market Revamp
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2006.01.10 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nolo Contendere Just because you said it - I will not buy it. I hope it will contribute somewhat to Bubba Fett "Get freighter fund".[/quote
Thanks. That should help quite a bit. Of course cash donations would get the job done much faster and you get the added benefit of receiving a sincere thank you note. 
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2006.01.10 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Darmed Khan Does anyone actually use the tractor beams? 
Yes. With 2-3 tractor beams, the looting time drops to 1/3 of normal. Should a tractor beam with longer range (say 100km) come into play, it would be great.
And yes, I already own the BPO.
--- Home, sweet home. |

elFarto
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Posted - 2006.01.10 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost price is going to skyrocket with new patch and people are already scamming sales buy buying them in bulk. current price is around 90k... after patch 15mil.
buy them now!
... a word from your friendy consumer advisor.
-LORD FROST
Ignore this person.
Please.
Don't worry about buying them.
*cough*
Regards elFarto
Stratego > 2005.10.22 14:15:17 combat Imperium Alliance petitions you, glancing off causing no real damage. |

ChaoSManiaC
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Posted - 2006.01.10 09:22:00 -
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This is so gonna ruin the tractor beam market...
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Siren Shiva
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Posted - 2006.01.10 09:27:00 -
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I am not going to buy any. Because unless NPCs start buying them in bulk after the patch (which wontnt happen) it hardly is worth the effort. There are dozens of better ways to make money, I dont feel like stockpiling 100 BPOs that have little demand for years.
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Dahin
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Posted - 2006.01.10 09:32:00 -
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you make me wanna buy about a few hundred k's of em and then put them in the market post-patch cheaper than today's prices.
For the price of a very few mil, I get to **** off all those pesky people 
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Fester Addams Basic NPC price is 81k.
In a number of regions the current rate for prints is well over a milion each.
I dont know if some wealthy players have bought upp the entire supply or if there were no supply to start with but if you wish to get a few BPO's before the prices go upp make sure you buy for around 81k.
BPO ... unresearched production will cost you WAY more than 81k, more into 810k and more
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die. MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner
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Commander Flopsy
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:38:00 -
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You got to laugh - in Lonetrek alone, around 11,000 Small Tractor Beam BPOs have been sold in the last 48 hours.
Compared with 600 odd bought between the launch of RMR and now, which arguably covered all the demand for the BPO in existence up to that point.
And on top of the nearly billion isk removed from the players already due to this, all of the sell order agent fees as people jostle to try and make any money from the whole deal will take even more out of the economy.
Stealth isk sinks FTW!  -- There is no SoonÖ |

Traxman
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:50:00 -
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More fun would be if the CCP announce that the prices will be _unchanged_ instead 
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Brannor McThife
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:59:00 -
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Noooo! I was just buying 2 - one for me and my friend's corp; just so we'd have 1 each - and CCP close down the server 4 minutes early!
Bastards!!!

-G
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Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing over 10000 of those have sold in the forge yesterday and today   
ROFLMAO
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Wild Ice
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Traxman More fun would be if the CCP announce that the prices will be _unchanged_ instead 
   Check the Patch notes again!!! they have removed the price increase -- there will be lots of people having issues with this!! 
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Stylez Gomez
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Valar
Patchnotes updated. We cancelled change of the Small Tractor Beam blueprint base price.
BURN!
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Hayman Wakefield
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:51:00 -
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nearly spat tea over my PC, funniest thing I've seen for ages.
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Kay Han
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hayman Wakefield
nearly spat tea over my PC, funniest thing I've seen for ages.
agreed.
i can see frustrated BPO buyers ___________________________________________ A wise man said once: 'Violence is the escape of the mentaly poor guys.'
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Darkdashing
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Ice
Originally by: Traxman More fun would be if the CCP announce that the prices will be _unchanged_ instead 
   Check the Patch notes again!!! they have removed the price increase -- there will be lots of people having issues with this!! 
haha that rocks 
There is beauty in tension.... |

kebab v2
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:57:00 -
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aah, ha ha a million isk down the tubes. my get rich quick schemes never work out 
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Cypherous
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Posted - 2006.01.10 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Darkdashing
Originally by: Wild Ice
Originally by: Traxman More fun would be if the CCP announce that the prices will be _unchanged_ instead 
   Check the Patch notes again!!! they have removed the price increase -- there will be lots of people having issues with this!! 
haha that rocks 
   
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Spartac0
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Posted - 2006.01.10 12:31:00 -
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i always knew TomB is a nasty evil ******
btw : good job CCP a ***job  
isk sinkers ftw 
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