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Yi-Ming Gren
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.24 01:00:00 -
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Dalmont Delantee wrote:Hmmm I've not been suicide ganked ever when I've mined in high sec, all I can think is you are mining somewhere that has lots of people around so therefore they are targeting you....
Moving is a good plan then..
Are you tanked? are you ever afk? do you fly a 200+ mining ship with a l2 or faction gear?
I mine in a system with 7 other people, 6 of them are mission runners. I keep local up and see all who come join our little area of space. I also keep scanning, and aligned to my dock, some call me paranoid I can it being safe. If I get ganked it is my fault, I either failed to notice the guy crawling up my tail pipe to get a way point on top of me or a was a sleep. |
Omar Alharazaad
ZomCom
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Posted - 2013.09.27 07:57:00 -
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Zabaidrian wrote:Dear CSM,
Stuff...
Things have gotten so bad recently that it is nearly a fruitless effort to mine or ice. Players wanting or needed raw materials need to create a fleet with combat and logistic support.
Some more arguablly silly stuff.
I look forward to your thoughts and those contributing to a better Eve.
Highlighted the bit that caught my eye. I don't see how this particular part is a bad thing. Think about it, miners needing combat and or logistic support creates demand for said support. Yes, guarding miners is about as boring as watching paint dry, so is mining. However, it also add sophistication and a little diversity to your mining ops. Adding EWAR guards and some scouts to the equation makes your little belt run more than just a bunch of livestock lining up at the local watering hole. If your corpies can't hack it, hire some mercs. Plus this idea, your idea by the way, encourages interaction with other players in the game and reinforces the whole MM part of MMO... |
Nofearion
sleep Deprivation INC. LLC The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:18:00 -
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I will not echo a lot of what has been said already, I am an industrialist, I have had my issues with gankers. I learned some harsh lessons. I gained value from those lessons. Gank encourages active play and interaction with others.
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Naj Panora
VC Academy
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Posted - 2013.09.29 03:30:00 -
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There is a better answer to this problem, up the PG/CPU of exhumers and add 2 mid slots to them so an better tanks can be fitted. The core issue is that a t1 half ass fit ship can solo gank a t2 ship. |
Yi-Ming Gren
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:10:00 -
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Naj Panora wrote:There is a better answer to this problem, up the PG/CPU of exhumers and add 2 mid slots to them so an better tanks can be fitted. The core issue is that a t1 half ass fit ship can solo gank a t2 ship.
I would love to see this T1 fit you are talking about. From what I have seen it take careful planning of training skills, and blasters, ammo, rigs for a single solo ganker to take a t2 mining ship in Hi-Sec before concord pops them. (I assume we are talking about mining ships, if we are talking mission runners or a hualer than they are really, really doing it wrong). |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:17:00 -
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Zabaidrian wrote:Malcanis wrote:Suicide ganking is legitimate, intended gameplay. Hi-sec is in no way intended to be safe, and no profession should be immune from loss.
Mining in a Hulk is explicitly choosing to increase your gank risk in order to increase your income. Use a Skiff if you don't want to be bothered. The income will be lower; that's the price you pay for lowering your risk. 1 - I have perfect skills with all forms of material extraction, incluing ship bonuses 2 - I ALWAYS fit a tank on all my ships 3 - I own and use a Skiff that is heavily tanked I have seen pilots in Deninard lose their Skiffs to ganks... Even with a logistics support and in a group of Skiffs there is still an issue in high-sec. Please explain how a gang can pop a Skiff with an EHP of 88k before the Navy/CONCORD can take "appropriate" action (gank situation). Again, reinstating the +2 warp strength the Skiff once had would be a great place to start. All material extraction pilots, including myself, have accepted the reduced (dare I say diminished) yields in order to survive. What are your thoughts?
If it was possible to mine in high sec with zero risk of being ganked then the people that build mining ships would go bankrupt. If all ships were perfectly safe then the need for ore would have vanished years ago and there would be no miners. What you are asking for is unreasonable.
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