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Nijiho
Galactica Industrial Facilities M E T H O D
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:44:00 -
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I have been doing the Hunting the Hunter mission with my 2b Vargur and I have to say that I am extremely frustrated. Even with Marauders IV and 4 x Tracking enhancers I can't hit anything due to the overwhelming tracking disruption. In addition there is massive DPS and neuting. I think this is not acceptable and it's quite sad. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:46:00 -
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Have you tried a MJD?
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Nijiho
Galactica Industrial Facilities M E T H O D
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:47:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Have you tried a MJD?
Does it solve something? |
Nijiho
Galactica Industrial Facilities M E T H O D
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:51:00 -
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I have forgotten to mention that all this is with the help of a fleet booster will all leadership 5 using a loki with 4 warfare links. |
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.11 00:35:00 -
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Nijiho wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Have you tried a MJD?
Does it solve something?
Yes, being 100km away will have a great effect on the tracking formula, the frigs and cruisers will burn at you in a straight line making them much easier to hit.
I haven't done this mission but according to the wiki you only need to destroy the battlestation in the 1st pocket to unlock the gate, so you don't actually have to kill the ships. |
Rengerel en Distel
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Posted - 2013.09.11 01:30:00 -
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Nijiho wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Have you tried a MJD?
Does it solve something?
It does point out that the game isn't pay to win, since you think a 2B isk ship should somehow negate game mechanics.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
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Posted - 2013.09.11 03:37:00 -
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This is why people fly rattlesnakes with drones on aggressive and f.o.f. missiles. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2013.09.11 03:49:00 -
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Nijiho wrote:I have been doing the Hunting the Hunter mission with my 2b Vargur and I have to say that I am extremely frustrated. Even with Marauders IV and 4 x Tracking enhancers I can't hit anything due to the overwhelming tracking disruption. In addition there is massive DPS and neuting. I think this is not acceptable and it's quite sad.
Each race has a battleship with a primary weapon system that is not troubled by TD. I own a kronos, but due to its many limitations, I keep a dominix handy at any mission hub that I use.
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:32:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Nijiho wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Have you tried a MJD?
Does it solve something? It does point out that the game isn't pay to win, since you think a 2B isk ship should somehow negate game mechanics.
But he had a Loki boosting him |
Dilligafmofo
The Generic Pirate Corporation Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.09.11 08:21:00 -
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Next to the f1 fire button on my 2b Vargur, I have a large red " I win" button.
If you have one on your 2b Vargur, press it. You may like the results |
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Nijiho
Galactica Industrial Facilities M E T H O D
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Posted - 2013.09.11 11:36:00 -
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OK, I see some good feedback. Thank you for that.
I never thought about the pay-to-win topic, but if I can afford a Vargur, why not spend another b or more in good deep space mods? I like to get the best possible out of my ship, which I think is fair.
I would like to point out that the main issue is the fact that a maxed out fit with fleet boost would still not be good enough to kill the rats. Well at the end i did manage to kill them but it took quite a while.
In view of the fact that a Marauder is so expensive, I would expect better performance compared to a Dominix. This is why i think Marauders need some reshaping. I saw a thread about this and I hope things get better for people like me who like missioning.
And BTW all the i$k was earned by doing incursions... 100s of hours, billions in the pocket... nothing wrong with that. |
Trinkets friend
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:10:00 -
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To be honest, a MJD Domi will get you through the mission superfast. The rats will TD the ship, not the drones. Go for a shield fit with 3 DDA's and pull 1100DPS, equivalent to your 2B ISK marauder. YOLO is the Carpe Diem of Gen Y http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:59:00 -
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Get a drone boat for the e-war heavy missions, and just run everything else with the marauder.
There are missions that are close to impossible to do with a gun boat, because of the heavy e-war, drone boats are pretty much immune to anything except sensor damps. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Eli Kzanti
Remanaquie Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:36:00 -
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I've never had tracking problems in vargur... ever.... and mine costs half what yours does <_<
How exactly are you attempting to go about this mission? I see from EVE survival that the EWAR frigs will spend at least a while just flying straight at you, so killing them, especially with boosts, shouldn't be too hard to do before they get close...
Stealth 'buff marauders even more than you plan to' thread? |
Fia Magrath
The Clown Inquisition
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Posted - 2013.09.12 00:40:00 -
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Vargurs cost closer to 1 bil, you got ripped off!! |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.12 10:55:00 -
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Vargur specifically isn't the ship to use drones as primary DPS obviously, so if you want to use it you can indeed take MJD as it was suggested. The thing is that last time I checked NPC's EWar abilities are useless at about 90 km range and further.
This range hurts DPS, but if you can get rid of TDing ships fast (not familliar with this particular mission), you can close to munch the rest.
If anything, that's one of the reason I'd like to stick to MJD bonus for marauders for their rebalancing plans |
Bibosikus
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:22:00 -
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Ireland VonVicious wrote:This is why people fly rattlesnakes with drones on aggressive and f.o.f. missiles.
Precisely.
Change your ship, the mission mechanic is working as intended. The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |
Baggo Hammers
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Posted - 2013.09.12 16:29:00 -
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Like some folks, ships are tools and you need to use the right one for the job. Isk has nothing to do with it. In the end, it is the pilot who makes the difference. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
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Posted - 2013.09.12 19:21:00 -
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Baggo Hammers wrote:Like some folks, ships are tools and you need to use the right one for the job. Isk has nothing to do with it. In the end, it is the pilot who makes the difference.
You can do everything with a hammer. |
Cage Man
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Posted - 2013.09.12 19:53:00 -
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Maybe put your boosting alt in a ship that can come along and help ? you really don't need boosting in a mission. The thick plottens... |
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