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Elvis Preslie
NRDS Securities Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2013.09.16 10:42:00 -
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I dont expect to be able to fit a various calibration rig of 200 and be able to also fit 2 exploration rigs; however, we should be able to fit the 2 rigs and still be able to fit a tech II screen reinforcer on a t3.....
SEriously, i would expect to not be able to fit a tech II field extender rig and two (2 x) tech II screen reinforcers on a t3 before not being able to fit exploration rigs and another rig....why? because those do affect other people whereas the exploration rigs have nothing to do with combat. Im seriously glad I didnt try to fit the tech II exploration rig i bought and THEN try to fit other rigs, as I wouldnt have been able to.
PLEASE reduce the calibration costs of the exploration rigs so that we can AT LEAST be able to achieve a tech 1 screen reinforcer rig with two tech 1 exploration rigs. It would be NICE to be able to fit all of them tech II and not be unbalanced. Seriously, with the way the hacking minigames are in null, its almost impossible to hack any relic or data container in null with the number of anti-virus that appear and, especially, with as many virus reconstitution nodes that appear - the ones that make the others increase by 20 each time you unveil a node. The tech II rigs are warranted because of the difficulty, even with tech II data and relic modules AND the rigs!!! |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2013.09.16 11:59:00 -
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Amazingly the other people seem to achieve a good success rate in null sites. So I think you are overstating how hard they are. Additionally, the chance of failure is a good thing. It's not good to have 100% payout sitting there for no effort. |
Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
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Posted - 2013.09.16 12:15:00 -
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Confirming that I am successfully doing null sec relic sites with archeology 1. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |
Elvis Preslie
NRDS Securities Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2013.09.16 12:18:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Confirming that I am successfully doing null sec relic sites with archeology 1.
you just havent went into deadspace to do it OR ran into the anti-virus reconstitution nodes that i said.
PLEASE read a post thoroughly before saying anything about it.
Nevyn Auscent wrote:Amazingly the other people seem to achieve a good success rate in null sites. So I think you are overstating how hard they are. Additionally, the chance of failure is a good thing. It's not good to have 100% payout sitting there for no effort.
you cant have a high percentage for failure, have your reward THROWN ABOUT, AND the site destroyed after two tries. The jettison of the reward and having it tractored is the dumbest idea ever. If you're going to have it jettisoned AND a high failure percentage, then make it where we have unlimited tries; this is balanced because we are in null security, with the risk of being clobbered while doing the site. |
Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
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Posted - 2013.09.16 12:20:00 -
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Elvis Preslie wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:Confirming that I am successfully doing null sec relic sites with archeology 1. you just havent went into deadspace to do it OR ran into the anti-virus reconstitution nodes that i said. PLEASE read a post thoroughly before saying anything about it. yes, I have. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |
Elvis Preslie
NRDS Securities Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2013.09.16 12:23:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Elvis Preslie wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:Confirming that I am successfully doing null sec relic sites with archeology 1. you just havent went into deadspace to do it OR ran into the anti-virus reconstitution nodes that i said. PLEASE read a post thoroughly before saying anything about it. yes, I have.
if you did, you would describe in detail and defend your refutal, other than saying "yes i have". You have not and until you prove otherwise, no one is to believe it..... how many points do the antivirus reconstitutors add and to what nodes? |
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.09.16 12:41:00 -
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You don't need the rigs, even with a T1 hacker and skill at, say, 4. They're really not that hard, Elvis. |
Elvis Preslie
NRDS Securities Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2013.09.16 12:55:00 -
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Gypsio III wrote:You don't need the rigs, even with a T1 hacker and skill at, say, 4. They're really not that hard, Elvis.
stop replying when you dont read the post fully |
Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
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Posted - 2013.09.16 13:01:00 -
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Stop ignoring feedback just because it is contrary to what you want. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |
Swiftstrike1
Interfector INC. Fade 2 Black
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Posted - 2013.09.16 14:23:00 -
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I would in fact say that T3 cruisers are too god at the new hacking mini-game. T3 is supposed to be less specialised than T2, but as it stands the exploration sub system receives the same bonus to Virus Strength as T2 exploration frigates (+10 to Virus Strength as a role bonus).
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Forsak3n.
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Posted - 2013.09.16 15:04:00 -
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Dude, seriously. Exploration is fine. You do not need a T3 for exploration anymore. The only benefit over a Covert Frigate is the increased cargobay.
A Helios has 5 midslot allowing for a prop mod, 1 of each exploration module, a couple scanning mods, and can fit 1 of each rig. With exploration skills (archaeology/hacking) at 5 and using T2 modules, I almost never fail to get the loot and scan down sites in 2-3 cycles.
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Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.16 15:07:00 -
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i agree that the calibration is excessive on these rigs and should have been changed in odyssey .. hacking is a little too easy with not enough reward .. hacking and relic sites need more variation and greater depth of content different scenery too would be nice perhaps expand them to going to planets and getting some exotic items you could sell to npc corps or something like that. Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Fellout
Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2013.09.16 15:23:00 -
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Sounds like no one here has ever tried high class wh sites... |
Elvis Preslie
NRDS Securities Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:32:00 -
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Btw, the exploration rigs havent been changed SINCE exploration was changed, afaik.
Also, there's a guy that has now proposed to take hacking out of the game completely here:
INSTEAD, fix the calibration as mentioned above, to it two TECH II exploration rigs, and either take away a lot of the anti-virus regeneration nodes (max of 4 or 5 in -1.0) or add more UTILITY modules.
PLEASE, ccp, fix this. |
Karma Codolle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.06 09:09:00 -
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lvl 5 skills, exploration my main profession. I don't even use the rigs and rarely lose a can.
Oh and I only work in nullsec, and I mainly get red sites. (aka the harder cans)
Sorry to say, but you're just not good at the mini-game if you need ccp to change the rigs to give you even more of a boost.
personally i find the mini-game too easy, but i know ccp wants the cost of t2 rigs down. So i doubt they'll make it harder.
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
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Posted - 2013.10.06 12:04:00 -
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This was on Sisi where my skills were higher from mass testing Free SP
Omnathious Deninard wrote: Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |
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