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Mylene Rever
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Posted - 2006.01.13 09:25:00 -
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My guess is this is probably going to have almost nothing but benefits for Tranquility. I can't imagine the Dev team we have now would be able to handle both shards, so I assume they'll hire a new team to take care of the China shard, so I doubt we'll receive any less attention. And if people are worried about isk farming, they can't get it to tranquility anyway. As far as I can tell, if it's a success in China, it just means more success for CCP:)
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Zhalakin
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Posted - 2006.01.13 09:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Fallen Shadow
Will the new Asian Server be avaiable to the rest of the world or is it restricted to certain contries?
the only thing we'll feel of this is more money in CCPs wallet :P
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Cookiecutter
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Posted - 2006.01.13 10:58:00 -
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i think the no player killing rule for minors could be solved by disabling podkillings - you dont kill the player, but just destroy a ship
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.13 11:00:00 -
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hmmm well its not asia its actually just china (the rest of asia will still be on TQ) hopefully china IPs will be blocked from TQ and all chinesse players put onto the new server. Of course that would be in keeping with the regulations CCP is under
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.01.13 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mylene Rever
I can't imagine the Dev team we have now would be able to handle both shards, so I assume they'll hire a new team to take care of the China shard
Just like there is with TQ, Serenity will have its own "live team". Most likely based in China.
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Selenna Fox
Hey Kieron
Can we at least have access to an English version of their forums?
Time for you to learn Chinese maybe?
Wonder which version of Chinese will be used, I heard they have two languages (Mandarin and another one that's used in Hong Kong?). Any Chinese people know what I'm talking about? *chuckles*
Their internet rules seem a bit draconian to me, tbh. *shrugs*
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Jayad
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Posted - 2006.01.13 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
Wonder which version of Chinese will be used, I heard they have two languages (Mandarin and another one that's used in Hong Kong?). Any Chinese people know what I'm talking about? *chuckles*
The north of china speak mandarin like the capital beijing, the south like 'Hong Kong' speak cantonese. Ofcourse in some places even from town to town exist a high number of minor languages. Its very confusing, however for all purposes China are trying to make mandarin the standard language nation wide.
Certainly my friends from hong kong understand my friends from beijing, but it usually doesnt work the other way around.
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Mylene Rever
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Posted - 2006.01.13 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
Edited by: Jakk Graiseach on 13/01/2006 15:12:07
Originally by: Selenna Fox
Hey Kieron
Can we at least have access to an English version of their forums?
Time for you to learn Chinese maybe?
Wonder which version of Chinese will be used, I heard they have two languages (Mandarin and another one that's used in Hong Kong?). Any Chinese people know what I'm talking about? *chuckles*
[ EDIT: Found it on the web - Cantonese - and apparently there are SEVEN versions of Chinese *gulps* The Chinese languages ]
Their internet rules seem a bit draconian to me, tbh. *shrugs*
I once had two chinese roommates, one was Beijing and the other from Shanghai, I think. They could only speak to each other in english:)
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Cudaya Ebsldes
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Posted - 2006.01.13 16:20:00 -
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My question is -- follow the isk --
Reading news reports but not having the ability to access information about Chinese governmental practices I would wonder how isk farmers in the China shard would fare.
I see nothing stated that would prevent a player from still having an account with the tranquility server, so the question is can the player transfer objects from one account to another? The objects (like minerals û but not exclusively minerals) would have a greater value on the Tranquility server.
Also, or more obviously, is isk transferable.
So that isk earned on an Asian account could be transferred to tranquility and sold there thru e-bay.
It would seem obvious that the Chinese government would not interfere with such a set-up since I brings hard cash to the Chinese market and effects economic real life realities (as anyone in the USA knows about the Mexican economic status),
This I believe, these real life issues, aside from game play will have the greatest impact on EVE as it is currently known.
I will predict nothing, as I have no information. I am only relieved that I have only a monthly subscription and can drop the game at anytime.
And, sadly I do not agree with CCPÆs decision regarding the separate shard for the simply reason that we, the current players, will not know what the game really is.
If corporate expansion under restrictions is in the cards, then a newly named game should have been in the cards also.
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Kronius Migranus
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Posted - 2006.01.13 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Well, as I understand it there will be some differences in the game itself. Some things in our version of EVE isn't allowed in MMOGs in China. So I'm guessing there will be differences between the versions of EVE.
Yeah, like no Gallente? 
Thanks
Alan
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Yggr
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Posted - 2006.01.13 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
apparently there are SEVEN versions of Chinese *gulps*
However, the written characters, grammar, and usage is the same for all versions of spoken Chinese.
In other words, any literate Chinese speaker could read the writings of any Chinese writer, no matter which dialect each one speaks, but they might not be able to have a conversation in person.
(That is, a Mandarin speaker could read the writings of a Cantonese speaker as easily as that of another Mandarin speaker, even though he couldn't have a spoken conversation with with the Cantonese speaker.)
This comes from someone who tried to learn Mandarin in a Cantonese-speaking city - Hong Kong. It's not easy - you never get a chance to try out your new phrases - the locals all speak a different language! (But you can write things out and they understand!)
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.01.13 20:07:00 -
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In an effort to address a similar questions and concerns have been raised in this thread, I offer the following:
1. Tranquility and Serenity will not be interconnected in any way. At this point in time, it will not be possible to transfer characters, funds, ships, modules or other items between the two servers.
2. Tranquility will always be CCP's focus and our primary server. Serenity is actually being run under a licensing agreement, so "CCP-China" will receive server and client code, patches and hot fixes, support and content from CCP. CCP-China will be responsible for meeting all Chinese laws, server hardware and other expenses.
3. The income received from Serenity's licensing agreement will be pumped back into CCP, the Dev team and Tranquility.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2006.01.13 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
There are two $$$ primary reasons for the creation of Serenity. $$$ The first is that the Chinese government $$$ has imposed a limit on the amount $$$ of time a user may be connected to $$$ an MMOG. If Tranquility were to be opened to the Chinese population, we $$$ would have to impose this time $$$ limit for all of Tranquility's users.
The second $$$ is that the entire Eve $$$ client needs to be localized to the $$$ various Chinese $$$ dialects. $$$ CCP-China will handle all $$$ localization efforts on Serenity, thus allowing $$$ CCP-Iceland to focus $$$ exclusively on Tranquility. $$$
Okay
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MWEI
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Posted - 2006.01.13 20:49:00 -
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I dont quite understand the non pvp for minor restriction. Its purpose is clear, but its rather hard to achieve its effect. Maybe they cant PVP in EVE or other MMORPG, but they can stil play CS or any shooting game
Then again, dying in EVE impact you more than dying in a shooting game.... preventing minors from commiting suicide?
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Gnobe
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:15:00 -
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I've always believed that dying in a game is inevitable, and usually when it happens it provides the player with a challenge of gaining back the items he/she lost at an early stage, at a later on stage however it's not really a expense to get back lost items / implants.
I don't mean to sound rude in anyway at all, but the Chinese government is idiotic for restricting PVP(Minors) / Time spent on the game. A game doesn't define how a player react when they lose something they like, or get grief from another player, it's the players personallity that defines how they would react to a situation like that, but laws are laws and you have no chance in hell of changing them, but there was an incident with Mir 3, and someones ingame sword, the guy killed the person who sold it, even though the player had offered him the money that he got for selling the sword on, but hey.
I'm glad to hear TQ is still a main focus, keep up the good work.
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Ukucia
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe
Originally by: Ukucia
Edited by: Ukucia on 13/01/2006 01:14:54
Originally by: Tobiaz
I don't care about that tbh, but you guys might. What if you got a server setup there worth millions and suddenly the Chinese bureaucrats come up with new ridiculous rules?
Maybe there'd be a revolution started by the MMOG freaks.
You must be kidding .. that's the point of MMOGs - to distract able minds from the reality for the period in which they still are able to do something that might influence the world they live in. MMOG is the huge sink for human's ego, and any sane totalitarian government will use it to calm the masses.
Ya might wanna re-read that. I was saying that if the Chinese government makes it so the MMOG freaks can't play, they might have issues with MMOG freaks getting upset. Thus, you're agreeing with me that the Chinese government isn't going to come up with ridiculous new rules that make MMOGs unplayable.
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Cudaya Ebsldes
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Posted - 2006.01.14 17:04:00 -
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Quote:
In an effort to address a similar questions and concerns have been raised in this thread, I offer the following:
1. Tranquility and Serenity will not be interconnected in any way. At this point in time, it will not be possible to transfer characters, funds, ships, modules or other items between the two servers.
2. Tranquility will always be CCP's focus and our primary server. Serenity is actually being run under a licensing agreement, so "CCP-China" will receive server and client code, patches and hot fixes, support and content from CCP. CCP-China will be responsible for meeting all Chinese laws, server hardware and other expenses.
3. The income received from Serenity's licensing agreement will be pumped back into CCP, the Dev team and Tranquility.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
I have read Kieron's post with great interest, and at this point in time it calms many of my apprehensions.
Thank you.
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Durlok
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Posted - 2006.01.14 17:13:00 -
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I'm just trying to imagine everyone starting with a clean slate in Eve...
Would take a year before peoples skills even got very high.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.01.14 17:23:00 -
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I actually kinda like the idea of starting new with everything. Imagine if we all started at a couple hunder k's of skillpoints with the current version of eve...
Only thing that could end up grossly imbalanced is t2 distrobution... 
Give miners a log off timer
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.01.14 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kitara Alena
Heh, some obvious content changes:
Caldari, being a facist state where the government runs everything (sort of like a certain large asian country) will be potrayed only in a positive light.
Gallente, a free democratic state will be potrayed as a failure of an empire because it allowed such horrible thins as "freedom".
Also Caldari will make no mention of forced abortions, killings of protesting students, the evils of state controlled media etc. Things that certain governments might find "offensive"
Actualy, Caldari were never ever facist and still arent, theye use standard corporate protocols that may seem harsh, but are visible in every major corporate structure in Real world. 
On the otherhand Ghaylenttes were facist state at one point!
update your EVE history 
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Azaeren
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Posted - 2006.01.14 18:31:00 -
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That and it will be legal to purchase and sell ingame items/isk on the chinese server 
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.14 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Azaeren
That and it will be legal to purchase and sell ingame items/isk on the chinese server
I don't see that Kieron has mentioned that...
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2006.01.14 19:32:00 -
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So CCP is just licensing the game to CCP-China or whatever?
Basically.. "here's our client, we'll keep sending you patches.. do whatever the hell you want with it but send us some monies"
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I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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Zenst
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
In an effort to address a similar questions and concerns have been raised in this thread, I offer the following:
1. Tranquility and Serenity will not be interconnected in any way. At this point in time, it will not be possible to transfer characters, funds, ships, modules or other items between the two servers.
2. Tranquility will always be CCP's focus and our primary server. Serenity is actually being run under a licensing agreement, so "CCP-China" will receive server and client code, patches and hot fixes, support and content from CCP. CCP-China will be responsible for meeting all Chinese laws, server hardware and other expenses.
3. The income received from Serenity's licensing agreement will be pumped back into CCP, the Dev team and Tranquility.
So the Southpark uderpants Gnomes were right after all:
1) Collect underpants - the interchange and indeed transfer of underpants is not dealt with, we only collect them.
2) ?????? - We dont have to do anything we dont already have todo, CCP-China does.
3) Profit - more financial stability than previously available.
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Clytamnestra
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:57:00 -
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When the novice necromancer resurrects a fairly fresh corpse, all he gets is a shambling zombie. The much more impressive walking skeletons require a carcass long dead and forgotten.
This is a zombie.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zenst
Originally by: kieron
In an effort to address a similar questions and concerns have been raised in this thread, I offer the following:
1. Tranquility and Serenity will not be interconnected in any way. At this point in time, it will not be possible to transfer characters, funds, ships, modules or other items between the two servers.
2. Tranquility will always be CCP's focus and our primary server. Serenity is actually being run under a licensing agreement, so "CCP-China" will receive server and client code, patches and hot fixes, support and content from CCP. CCP-China will be responsible for meeting all Chinese laws, server hardware and other expenses.
3. The income received from Serenity's licensing agreement will be pumped back into CCP, the Dev team and Tranquility.
So the Southpark uderpants Gnomes were right after all:
1) Collect underpants - the interchange and indeed transfer of underpants is not dealt with, we only collect them.
2) ?????? - We dont have to do anything we dont already have todo, CCP-China does.
3) Profit - more financial stability than previously available.
QFT!
I thought it was only I who remember the underpant gnomes!
"Hey, what's phase 2?"
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.01.25 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Clytamnestra
When the novice necromancer resurrects a fairly fresh corpse, all he gets is a shambling zombie. The much more impressive walking skeletons require a carcass long dead and forgotten.
This is a zombie.
Eh?
Are you accusing me of necromancing a thread only 2 weeks old?
23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC |
Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2006.01.25 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Jakk Graiseach on 25/01/2006 18:07:20
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Are you accusing me of necromancing a thread only 2 weeks old?
J'accuse! 
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Sam Albertek
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Posted - 2006.02.24 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Sam Albertek on 24/02/2006 07:48:12
Edited by: Sam Albertek on 24/02/2006 07:47:31
Edited by: Sam Albertek on 24/02/2006 07:47:11
quotes from Article
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in addition, Chinese authorities have also ordered online game operators to install timing mechanisms that would automatically log players off of online games once they had exceeded a set number of hours of continuous play. Chinese gamers on average spend 10.9 hours a week playing online games.
10.9 hours a week.. that comes to 1.6 hours a day. thats.. bad?
Quote:
"Minors should not be allowed to play online games that have PK content, that allow players to increase the power of their own online game characters by killing other players," Liu Shifa, head of the MOC's Internet Culture Division, which drafts policies governing the online gaming market, told Interfax. "Online games that have PK content usually also contain acts of violence and leads to players spending too much time trying to increase the power of their characters. They are harmful to young people."
according to the above they dont spend much time at all..
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Chinese authorities have significantly increased policing of online games since the second half of 2004, as part of government efforts to create a 'healthy' environment for children. As part of that same campaign, regulators have also *****ed down on ****ographic, violent, gambling, and 'superstitious' content disseminated over the internet and mobile phone networks.
so china is trying to take what they dont like out on a global scale? no predejuce here, but it seems like they are trying to take over the world and using american parent's belief that "children are little angles that need to be protected and held close and kept from corruption yadda yadda yadda..." as a way to make us completley oblivious of it
or mabye im just insane..
edit: some things in the last quote were censored. look at the article and youll see
edit again: coding problems
edit again again: more coding problems
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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2006.02.24 07:49:00 -
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Can any of the devs actually speak chinese?
or are you just going to 'wing it'?
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