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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1944
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:23:00 -
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Here you have the infomercial... err... news at the Mittani:
http://themittani.com/news/plex-sale-25-amazoncom
I already started a thread some days ago on CCP's aggressive marketing campaigns, apparently aimed at stockpiling money by october; that thread was closed for "rumor mongering", so I will not comment now.
Just will say, if you've got an Amazon account and fancy 3 PLEX for USD 39.49 or 6 PLEX for 74.99, hurry up and take on the sale!
(And in case you were speculating with PLEX price... watch out your investment!) The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists Intergalactic Conservation Movement
94
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:37:00 -
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If they keep cutting plex prices there is less and less incentive for players to pay for long subscription times as the opportunity cost narrows to a point where the present value of paying for a year is less than just buying plex during these discount events.
CCP stands to lose some yearly subscribers if they go too far down this path. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
48216
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:41:00 -
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I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. Why do bikers wear leather ??-á Because chiffon wrinkles too easily.-á -- Paul Lynde |
Rengerel en Distel
1938
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:48:00 -
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Really not sure what problem you have with a for-profit company trying to make a profit. If it crashes PLEX prices back to a reasonable level, I'm sure most players won't mind either.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16621
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:50:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. GǪtoo bad you can't buy any win with it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Taiwanistan
322
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:54:00 -
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what you going to spend another 900 euros? TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1547
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:57:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster.
Tell the mission runners, explorers, and ratters to stop killing NPCs. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
48232
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:08:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. GǪtoo bad you can't buy any win with it.
OK. Pay-to-(pick one: T3, Faction Bling, Cap) Why do bikers wear leather ??-á Because chiffon wrinkles too easily.-á -- Paul Lynde |
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1187
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:15:00 -
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I'm not seeing a discount. Just the regular $49.99. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8818
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:20:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:I'm not seeing a discount. Just the regular $49.99.
"The sale begins at midnight PDT Thursday, September 26th, approximately eleven hours after this posting." Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
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manutari
Pirate Manufacturing and Supply Services Inc.
3
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:21:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:I'm not seeing a discount. Just the regular $49.99.
very last paragraph:
"The sale begins at midnight PDT Thursday, September 26th, approximately eleven hours after this posting. " |
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1187
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:22:00 -
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You two are silly, expecting me to read. |
baltec1
Bat Country
8083
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:25:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster.
More 60 billion ravens is not a bad thing. You have to remember that purple gear tends to not result in good players. |
manutari
Pirate Manufacturing and Supply Services Inc.
4
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:32:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:You two are silly, expecting me to read.
no, i just saw the same thing and thought...ok where's the small print. i kinda wonder if CCP is listing the PLEX at same price too? i never seen any authorized dealer sell before CCP pricing. I could be wrong. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
48234
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:50:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. More 60 billion ravens is not a bad thing. You have to remember that purple gear tends to not result in good players.
But they certainly think so while wearing such fabulousness Why do bikers wear leather ??-á Because chiffon wrinkles too easily.-á -- Paul Lynde |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3585
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:55:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: I already started a thread some days ago on CCP's aggressive marketing campaigns, apparently aimed at stockpiling money by october; that thread was closed for "rumor mongering", so I will not comment now.
And this latest thread of yours is no different because you still don't work in CCP's accounting or marketing depts, and still have no evidence to back up what you keep implying.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1944
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:14:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: I already started a thread some days ago on CCP's aggressive marketing campaigns, apparently aimed at stockpiling money by october; that thread was closed for "rumor mongering", so I will not comment now.
And this latest thread of yours is no different because you still don't work in CCP's accounting or marketing depts, and still have no evidence to back up what you keep implying.
Yes, of course... everything is normal.
It's a pity i don't need PLEXes, though. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3585
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:19:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: I already started a thread some days ago on CCP's aggressive marketing campaigns, apparently aimed at stockpiling money by october; that thread was closed for "rumor mongering", so I will not comment now.
And this latest thread of yours is no different because you still don't work in CCP's accounting or marketing depts, and still have no evidence to back up what you keep implying. Yes, of course... everything is normal.
Please show us some proof instead of just mewling Chicken Little. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Cavel Avada
New Eden Order Sev3rance
75
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:25:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tippia wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. GǪtoo bad you can't buy any win with it. OK. Pay-to-(pick one: T3, Faction Bling, Cap)
Except for the part where it takes months (and sometimes years) to train the necessary skills for those ships. So really, it's pay to win (in 6-20 months) |
Alara IonStorm
5355
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:26:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. I've watch item prices soar to almost double what they were before in those years as well. 3 years ago an Apocalypse could be bought, fit and insured for slightly more than the hull value at less then the cost of an Apocalypse hull now.
Sir SmashAlot wrote: CCP stands to lose some yearly subscribers if they go too far down this path.
Plex cost is still slightly higher at a 25% discount and someone else paying is still someone paying for the account. |
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James Amril-Kesh
Goonswarm Federation
5801
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:38:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tippia wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. GǪtoo bad you can't buy any win with it. OK. Pay-to-(pick one: T3, Faction Bling, Cap) The necessary ingredients for "win" are, good equipment, good player skills, and good character skills.
Good equipment you can buy easily if you sell PLEX, yes. But that doesn't directly lead to a win.
Good character skills you can't buy, unless you buy a character that has the skills that you want/need. But this isn't pay to win for several reasons, most significantly being that trying to pay for characters by selling PLEX gets very expensive, very quickly. This discourages the vast, vast majority of people from trying such a thing. The amount of people willing to put down hundreds or thousands of dollars/euros/pounds for a character are so few and far between that this isn't really much of a consideration.
Good player skills can't be bought, period. They only come with a solid combination of experience and theory.
And even if you are a highly competent pilot with the best equipment and skills, you're still not going to win all of the time. Sometimes you'll be severely outnumbered. Sometimes you'll be countered. And sometimes you'll make mistakes.
So we have essentially a system that lets you buy, using PLEX, realistically only one out of the three necessary ingredients for "win". Hardly makes the game pay-to-win. My Youtube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists Intergalactic Conservation Movement
94
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:42:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. I've watch item prices soar to almost double what they were before in those years as well. 3 years ago an Apocalypse could be bought, fit and insured for slightly more than the hull value at less then the cost of an Apocalypse hull now. Sir SmashAlot wrote: CCP stands to lose some yearly subscribers if they go too far down this path.
Plex cost is still slightly higher at a 25% discount and someone else paying is still someone paying for the account.
It is the "slightly" that bothers me, why lock in for a year when I can go month to month for a negligible amount more. Since EVE is one of the last MMOs that succeeds as a subscription model, incentives for month to month over yearly subscriptions does not seem like a wise decision to me. |
Alara IonStorm
5355
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:48:00 -
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Sir SmashAlot wrote: It is the "slightly" that bothers me, why lock in for a year when I can go month to month for a negligible amount more.
You already can. It is still cheaper even with this temporary deal to buy 3 months of game time or 6 months of game time than it is with 25% off Plex.
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Lord Jita
Lord Jita's Big Gay Corp
77
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:52:00 -
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Hey look an anonymously posted article to a goon news site, this isn't a clever attempt at lowering the plex price at all! I completely believe this unsourced article! Sales away!
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Rengerel en Distel
1941
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:53:00 -
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Sir SmashAlot wrote: It is the "slightly" that bothers me, why lock in for a year when I can go month to month for a negligible amount more. Since EVE is one of the last MMOs that succeeds as a subscription model, incentives for month to month over yearly subscriptions does not seem like a wise decision to me.
Is it that much different than other companies that have once a year pricing discounts on yearly subscriptions? 12 Plex with the sale will be 12.49/each. 12 months with a yearly sub is 10.95/month. That's still a pretty nice discount, I'd say.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
2183
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Posted - 2013.09.26 00:37:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tippia wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. GǪtoo bad you can't buy any win with it. OK. Pay-to-(pick one: T3, Faction Bling, Cap) Odd, I got all 3 of those, and I buy PLEX with ISK and use them to fund my accounts. Did I pay to win? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
708
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Posted - 2013.09.26 01:32:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tippia wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. GǪtoo bad you can't buy any win with it. OK. Pay-to-(pick one: T3, Faction Bling, Cap) Odd, I got all 3 of those, and I buy PLEX with ISK and use them to fund my accounts. Did I pay to win?
No. What YOU did is WIN-TO-PAY. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2968
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Posted - 2013.09.26 01:44:00 -
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Cavel Avada wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tippia wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. GǪtoo bad you can't buy any win with it. OK. Pay-to-(pick one: T3, Faction Bling, Cap) Except for the part where it takes months (and sometimes years) to train the necessary skills for those ships. So really, it's pay to win (in 6-20 months)
Yeah, he left out the most important one.
Pay-to-(buy one of Mr Epeen's well crafted characters for sale in the character bazaar)
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
36
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:33:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've watched ingame PLEX value soar over the past 3 years from 245,000,000 ISK to now over 600,000,000 ISK.
I feel like its gone from Pay-to-Win to Pay-to-Win Even Faster. GǪtoo bad you can't buy any win with it.
Too bad you can.
Pay for a new T3 OGB character. Pay for subscription. Pay for faction fitted frigates. Kite with a Condor with HG Snakes at 20k at 6k NP? |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS type X
55
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Posted - 2013.09.26 05:16:00 -
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deleted cuz the guy above me essentially said the same thing. |
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