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Praniux Nachalovicius Penktasis
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.09.27 18:41:00 -
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At least the Europeans have CCP selling something on their dedicated amazon sites. If you search Eve Online in amazon.ca, the results consist of two fan-fiction books, a collectable, and an ISK Strategy guide.
I can entertain the possibility that this is due to some logistical problem with amazon and its different divisions, but then why not just have the sale on your website directly? You're losing money, CCP; I was about to buy way more PLEX than I need, and I suspect I'm not the only one. |
Amber Hills
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.27 18:42:00 -
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* Amber Hills thinks hard to come up with PLEX buying assistance scam...
I'll gladly PLEX you tomorrow for a hamburger today. (flips tie) |
Amber Hills
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.27 18:43:00 -
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Praniux Nachalovicius Penktasis wrote:At least the Europeans have CCP selling something on their dedicated amazon sites. If you search Eve Online in amazon.ca, the results consist of two fan-fiction books, a collectable, and an ISK Strategy guide.
I can entertain the possibility that this is due to some logistical problem with amazon and its different divisions, but then why not just have the sale on your website directly? You're losing money, CCP; I was about to buy way more PLEX than I need, and I suspect I'm not the only one. It's more likely to be an issue with contract law in the various applicable jurisdictions. (Cue "juris my diction" joke.) |
bettepus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:05:00 -
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i must say im so disepointed over ccp in this matter the discrimination is so unreal.. come on ccp! |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2013.09.27 22:27:00 -
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0mez wrote:This is pretty lame from CCP, are they expecting their only future customers to be from the US? Europe and UK stay with rip-off prices but US gets the same in game item for half the price. I see someone posted about VAT, I'm pretty sure last time I check the VAT that it wasn't @ 100%.
FIRST, I agree it is lame
Looking for any Reason in the face of no reason, I raised the VAT issue elsewhere,
but I can't imagine it being that high either - but it is almost certainly _some_ of the difference
From googling 20% would be the best guess. (thats the default rate and the VAT is applied to foreign based goods or services provided to member countries... any tax has tons of complications to it so that is still a "guess" but not one pulled from thin air
20% of 50 is 10 = Something that cost $50 in the US would need to cost $60 in europe to cover the a guestimated 20% VAT
20% is not nearly 100% so, yeah , the VAT in itself isn't a satisfying answer.
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Now, the question is if there are other fee's or limitations in the EU which would narrow the difference futher?
One Vague speculation:
- I have a vague impression from numerous more specific antidotes, that some Euorpean countries take a different look on certain types of promotional pricing.
Is there any remote chance that "limited time only" discounting for services that will revert to a higher price is deemed an anti-consumer practice in Europe ?
Un-intended consequences?
That would not even remotely explain a difference in higher base rates.
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Second Vague Speculation
-- I wonder if Europeans think more US players are likely to Buy Plex and sell them for isk ? --- hooking groups of US friends at lower cost to fleece the fat sheep amoung them when he buys 40 plex for a super carrier? -- that wouldn't make if fair.... still, it would be how business is done in the US. |
bettepus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.28 06:39:00 -
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still no reply from ccp on this :O im sad i wanted to spend money :/ |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
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Posted - 2013.09.28 07:02:00 -
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Amazon US-only sale was enough to drop PLEX price by 40+ millions. I could be pissed off if I were waiting for traditional mid-October price peak to sell a stash of PLEXes. |
Anthony Blunt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.28 07:08:00 -
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Your all barking up the wrong tree.......
amazon.de search on plex + eve
28.89Gé¼ = 39 US $
difference is 1.50 us or 1Gé¼
What is the fuss about? it is worth the extra euro not to have to live over there I am not my main, just a blunt instrument. |
bettepus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.28 07:10:00 -
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well tried that one aswell dosnt allow only germans :P so either way dosnt work for me :) |
Anthony Blunt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.28 07:13:00 -
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bettepus wrote:
well tried that one aswell dosnt allow only germans :P so either way dosnt work for me :)
Thats odd I am not in germany and it works for me same with the UK amazon I am not there and I can order from them as well.. I am not my main, just a blunt instrument. |
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bettepus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.28 07:25:00 -
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Games-Downloads sind nur f++r Deutsche Kunden verf++gbar is the msg i get from amazon.de
just tried it again |
Herr Esiq
Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2013.09.28 07:35:00 -
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bettepus wrote:Games-Downloads sind nur f++r Deutsche Kunden verf++gbar is the msg i get from amazon.de
just tried it again Also not allowed for Dutch people so im guessing most of Europe is still out. Amazon is a real fck up as a partner if you ask me. |
Anthony Blunt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.28 08:30:00 -
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Herr Esiq wrote: Also not allowed for Dutch people so im guessing most of Europe is still out. Amazon is a real fck up as a partner if you ask me.
Sorry to all for the false info.
I just didn't actually buy any but it does appear that I can. I have to agree with this the problem is probably with Amazon and not CCP.
What I would really like is Plex for cash. If CCP could do a deal with Itunes I could buy those cards in the supermarket. I am not my main, just a blunt instrument. |
Herr Esiq
Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2013.09.28 08:36:00 -
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Anthony Blunt wrote:Herr Esiq wrote: Also not allowed for Dutch people so im guessing most of Europe is still out. Amazon is a real fck up as a partner if you ask me.
Sorry to all for the false info. I just didn't actually buy any but it does appear that I can. I have to agree with this the problem is probably with Amazon and not CCP. What I would really like is Plex for cash. If CCP could do a deal with Itunes I could buy those cards in the supermarket. No harm no faul. CCP has a international game, and when having PLEX sales they should have a international supplier of PLEX so not only a select few can reap the benefits.
They should look at their own list: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx
Cross out retailers that cant deliver internationally and have a PLEX sale there. Sounds easy enough. |
eeteepeell
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.09.28 09:08:00 -
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Sale seems to have hit the Amazon.de now, Gé¼57,75 for 6 plex. Still can't buy any though, since I'm not from Germany. Stop discriminating me CCP
They should just distribute plex through secure.eveonline.com if Amazon is not willing to open their channels. |
bettepus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.28 12:59:00 -
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come on ccp do something :O |
Zostera
nul-li-fy Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.09.28 13:17:00 -
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6 Plex at UK prices is -ú84.99 which is scandalous considering they are giving you a lower dollar price for the same number of an identical item.
Just to highlight that, the dollar price if you bought 6 PLEX in the UK is $137.
Just to add insult to injury, the -ú84.99 for 6 PLEX is a special promotional offer.
In UK money, you are getting the 6 for -ú46.51, almost half what we normally pay.
When will UK customers get a similar offer? We pay well over the odds for our normal subs compared to US$ so a little bit of a special offer would be very welcome. |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.28 13:32:00 -
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What about Canada? For being little more than a vassal-state of the US we sure get the short end of that stick. Will we be lumped in with the UK if they get a promotion?
How many times do you think you can :CCP: your playerbase in a row? Seems to me you are going for a new record this month. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.28 14:39:00 -
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Well its been a couple days now and we are greeted with both silence and implied disdain from CCP on this issue.
CCP, we are talking real wallet dollars here, and a huge disparity between how US users and the rest of the community are being treated. When I say treated, I mean SCREWED.
FIX THIS.
PLEX should be sold on the main site for the same number of days at the 25% reduced cost for EVERYONE, that the US only players have been enjoying for days now. Simple. Done.
FIX THIS.
(warms up Jita 4-4 monument lazers....) Would you like to know more? |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.09.28 19:25:00 -
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I have removed some off topic posts pertaining to RL politics; please keep it on topic and do not talk about non-EVE related topics in General Discussion. Thank you. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Anthony Blunt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:22:00 -
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Well not only will Amazon.de not ship outside Germany and maybe one or two other countries they are clearly advertising RMT over Ebay on Amazon.de
Nice partner to have. Cuts your throat and upsets your customer base.
To tell the truth Business is a cold hard world.. I am not my main, just a blunt instrument. |
bettepus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:50:00 -
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i tried mailing the support page [email protected] to see if we could an answer there since no one apprently care about the forums |
eeteepeell
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:55:00 -
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It's all Amazons fault. Reply to my petition:
Quote:Hello, Thank you for contacting customer support. We apologize for any inconvenience or frustration, however we are not able to discuss internal matter relating to promotions or pricing, nor are we able to discuss availability or billing issues relating to third party vendors such as Amazon. Please direct your inquiry to their customer support service through the following page: www.amazon.com/helpBest regards, GM Ukulele CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | Dust 514 |
bettepus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:39:00 -
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lol just washing their hands talking about hating your player base! |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:47:00 -
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Well for those of us outside the US that normally buy PLEX, this is a real kick in the bollocks...25% is real money when buying 6 plex...
In protest I am not buying the normal 6 plex I do this cycle, and will sell off ships I haven't been flying lately to fund my next inkling. I will not reward CCP for so clearly screwing non-US players like this.
::sadpanda::
Would you like to know more? |
eeteepeell
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:09:00 -
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Because we didn't know amazon would only sell in the US *uhuh*
bettepus wrote:lol just washing their hands talking about hating your player base!
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Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
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Posted - 2013.09.30 18:38:00 -
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Zostera wrote:6 Plex at UK prices is -ú84.99 which is scandalous considering they are giving you a lower dollar price for the same number of an identical item.
Just to highlight that, the dollar price if you bought 6 PLEX in the UK is $137.
Just to add insult to injury, the -ú84.99 for 6 PLEX is a special promotional offer.
In UK money, you are getting the 6 for -ú46.51, almost half what we normally pay.
When will UK customers get a similar offer? We pay well over the odds for our normal subs compared to US$ so a little bit of a special offer would be very welcome.
I bought 6 plexes a few days ago in -ú. I want the difference back. This is either pure discrimination, greed or a mistake on CCP part. I hope for the latter. Ideology -ás-h-i-t -álist https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Gel%20Musana
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Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
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Posted - 2013.09.30 18:40:00 -
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eeteepeell wrote:It's all Amazons fault. Reply to my petition: Quote:Hello, Thank you for contacting customer support. We apologize for any inconvenience or frustration, however we are not able to discuss internal matter relating to promotions or pricing, nor are we able to discuss availability or billing issues relating to third party vendors such as Amazon. Please direct your inquiry to their customer support service through the following page: www.amazon.com/helpBest regards, GM Ukulele CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | Dust 514
It doesn't say it's Amazon fault. Ideology -ás-h-i-t -álist https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Gel%20Musana
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.30 18:45:00 -
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eeteepeell wrote:It's all Amazons fault. Reply to my petition: Quote:Hello, Thank you for contacting customer support. We apologize for any inconvenience or frustration, however we are not able to discuss internal matter relating to promotions or pricing, nor are we able to discuss availability or billing issues relating to third party vendors such as Amazon. Please direct your inquiry to their customer support service through the following page: www.amazon.com/helpBest regards, GM Ukulele CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | Dust 514 Hmm, so CCP's response is to say its Amazon kicking non-US players in the bollocks, yet the Amazon person I talked to said they implement US-only controls at request of the provider (i.e. CCP).
So which is it CCP? Is it Amazon locking the pricing down to US-only 'just because they felt like it', or is it actually because of how you negotiated the deal with Amazon as they say?
Either way, it should be addressed by CCP -- by changing the terms with Amazon, OR dropping PLEX prices on EveOnline.com by 25% to match for *everyone*.
How about it CCP?
p.s. As of today the Amazon price has gone back up to $99. US players got $25 off, everyone else got screwed. Thanks CCP! Would you like to know more? |
bettepus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.30 19:07:00 -
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Hi there,
We are terribly sorry that you are unable to take advantage of Amazon's current offers. Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about the ineligibility for certain countries when it comes to these PLEX offers as it is entirely up to Amazon, and they have their own policies on the matter. Rest assured that well aware of the price difference, and how unfair it can be, but as stated before it is simply not something that we can change. We hope you understand.
Again, we are sorry for not being able to assist you. If you have any further questions or concerns please let us know.
Best Regards, GM Fezzik CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
hhahahahahahahaha thats the answer i got they clearly have no idea what there are doing >< |
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