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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4770
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:53:00 -
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With the official CCP announcement that in the interests of "community engagement" groups of players that CCP decides they like will be given piles of rare or unreleased ships to make a private profit off, I'd like to throw my hat into the ring for goonswarm to be the next in line for massive unregulated handouts to people a random dev decides they like.
Goonswarm has done more for raising EVE's profile and gathering new players into EVE than SOMER or any other CCP partner. It is goonwarm that makes international news when we butcher some worthless alliance that barely puts up a fight, or decides to pay half of empire to kill the other half, magic trillions of isk out of thin air by breaking a headline patch feature, or our many other delightful exploits. And we bring a constant stream of new players into EVE, to fill our ranks. Given the precedent set by the SOMER gifts, no player group deserves a free handout more than Goonswarm. And no player website deserves a handout more than goonfleet.com.
Now, some people might argue that it would be favoritism to give them to us, as we'd just keep them rather than run a for-profit lottery for the ships to convert them to isk like SOMER would. I assure you nothing is farther from the truth. Rather than have some dumb ship I too will ensure that the ships are available to the EVE public, at the fairest price possible (the highest price the market will bear). That means any EVE player will have a fair chance to get the ship rather than having to lose scads of money in a for-profit gambling scheme.
Now, some people might protest that we're only in it for ourselves. And those people certainly have a point: just like a for-profit gambling corporation that maintains its "trust" solely because that keeps the money flowing, we look out for #1. But as we look out for #1, we provide great benefits to the EVE population at large. We spend our vast sums of money creating content and obliterating abscesses on the eve community like highsec miners, and TEST.
Some people might also claim that giving us ships would be blatant favoritism. To that, I can say nothing but that I agree - but since CCP has now decided they're openly showing favoritism by gifting hundreds of billions of isk worth of ships to SOMER, surely EVE's most successful alliance deserves some favoritism too. Some might argue that we should not be creating new unique ships, and that may be a fair point: I will happily accept sabre BPOs and other t2 BPOs as a replacement care package.
CCP has argued that SOMER is a fitting partner because they are "honest", though studiously avoiding actually claiming they've investigated to determine SOMER is honest and also studiously avoiding promising they would do anything if SOMER just walked off with all the ships. Some might argue Goonswarm therefore does not qualify. To that, I have a simple argument: SOMER openly tells you that it will take your isk, tells you how, and then takes your isk. So too does Goonswarm tell you we're going to take your isk, tell you how we're going to take your isk (after all, our public wiki specifically tells you what's going to happen with your security deposit) and then we take your isk. That is just as honest, if not more honest, than SOMER: after all, our odds are public while you have to do a little math to figure out SOMER's.
Do the right thing. Give Goonswarm hundreds of billions of isk. Nay, give us trillions: we are better than SOMER and deserve greater CCP largesse. Thank you for your time, and the sabre bpos we so richly deserve.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3602
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:54:00 -
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Be patient, it's just a matter of time.
Also, don't pat yourself on the back so hard, you'll likely leave a bruise.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1130
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:55:00 -
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I would like to chime in and say dev flown ships full of officer mods that die to our gatecamps is also acceptable.
Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal - Representing Goonswarm Federation, Goonwaffe, CFC Finance, Greater Economic Co-Prosperity Sphere, CFC Rental Program, Burn Jita, CFC Supply, and who knows what else.-á Vile Rat: You'e the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve. |
Fix Lag
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
531
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:59:00 -
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How much dev dick do I have to suck to get my starter corp removed from my employment history? |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
413
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:01:00 -
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Complete the cycle. We could be BoB. A couple t2 BPOs and we'd be happy.
I mean, fully sanctioned this time, like the SOMER blink guys. |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
216
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:02:00 -
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I agree wholeheartedly
the directorate of GBS LOGISTICS AND FIVES SUPPORT [MY 5S] stands in staunch solidarity with this plan or service |
Fix Lag
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
531
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:02:00 -
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"It's not wrong if we publish a devblog about it!" |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1201
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:08:00 -
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It's funny because it's true. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1207
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:08:00 -
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INB4 Lock |
Bronco Platz
Intercosmic Fruit Company
20
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:09:00 -
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Kismeteer wrote:Complete the cycle. We could be BoB. A couple t2 BPOs and we'd be happy.
I mean, fully sanctioned this time, like the SOMER blink guys.
T20 is the only difference nowadays between CFC and BoB... |
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MeestaPenni
Nova Force
314
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:09:00 -
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Can I have my own solar system please? With planets and asteroids loaded with the most rare of minerals and materials? And officer spawns dropping loot from frigates?
I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
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Klyith
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:10:00 -
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And in case anyone has reservations over who in Goonswarm would be trustworthy enough: Solo Drakban
*Runs a fansite that supports thousands of players *An integral part of Eve's longest-running Secret Santa program *Trusted every year with up to $10,000 in real money, so he won't be tempted by a piddling trillion isk worth of ships |
Lee Saisima
Caldari Mining and Logistics Academy
61
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:11:00 -
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Blink has a business plan and Goonswarm doesn't. Goons are small-fry nowadays anyway. |
Doris Dents
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
256
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:12:00 -
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Lee Saisima wrote:Blink has a business plan and Goonswarm doesn't. Goons are small-fry nowadays anyway. We won't need a business plan when CCP hands us trillions of free stuff just for being that awesome. |
Thomas Hurt
Yan Jung Clique
133
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:14:00 -
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NOT bumping |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4786
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:14:00 -
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Lee Saisima wrote:Blink has a business plan and Goonswarm doesn't. Goons are small-fry nowadays anyway. I laid out an excellent business plan: we will take CCP's gifts, and sell them to the public, and pocket the proceeds.
What more would we need? |
MeLoveVeldLongTime
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:16:00 -
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Yes i would like Free Veld too pls ccp pls |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1205
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:17:00 -
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Lee Saisima wrote:Blink has a business plan and Goonswarm doesn't. Goons are small-fry nowadays anyway.
You're suggesting an institutional/organizational pissing contest between goonswarm and somer? You're going to be disappointed at the outcome.
Goonswarm puts some medium-sized businesses to shame.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1977
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:17:00 -
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OP is captain of my heart from now on. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
577
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:18:00 -
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give us the ships, we need them ccp Follow me on twitter |
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Kallaystra
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:18:00 -
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No one knows how better to redistribute wealth than goonfleetdotcom's great space-communist overlords. |
Kuni Oichi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:19:00 -
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Klyith wrote:And in case anyone has reservations over who in Goonswarm would be trustworthy enough: Solo Drakban
*Runs a fansite that supports thousands of players *An integral part of Eve's longest-running Secret Santa program *Trusted every year with up to $10,000 in real money donations, so he won't be tempted by a piddling trillion isk worth of ships *Has excellent taste in fine Scotch
As a follow up to this, Goons are also the most philanthropic organisation in Eve. Every new Goon who joins is given hundreds of million of isk just for being able to join a fleet. They're then shown how to make vastly more money than they could in high sec and are able to take part in all aspects of the game, unlike those poor unenlightened players stuck in high sec or grubbing around for the scraps in low sec.
Goons create content, drive awareness of the game and assist new players. Isn't that more worthy than promoting gambling addiction? |
Pittsburgh2989
Shadow State Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:19:00 -
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Agreed...since you set the precedence of giving them to them...why not to at least the alliance that is making world wide news for you....
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L4ST
Helios Alliance Tactical Narcotics Team
25
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:19:00 -
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approving |
Ashrik Tyr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:19:00 -
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What's good for the goose is also good for the gander. Support Goonswarm |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
279
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:19:00 -
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I fully support this product and/or service! I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42 |
DaveTheGreat
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:19:00 -
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CCP Can i have a T2 BPO, i will be happy with a Hulk BPO. I promise i will give all of the profits from it to new bros |
Daktar Jaxs
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:20:00 -
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just gives us your ******* money now |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
674
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:21:00 -
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Observe a media counter action being launched.
Trying to put CCP in good light by showing an even more evil organisation.
Nice try, but everyone knows that CCP is controlled by Grroons anyway ;)
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
132
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:22:00 -
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Good point OP , and be honest you guys deserved it by now. +1 The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
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