AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

I totally don't already have a plan that involves milking highsec for tears and or ISK.

The proceeding statement is totally a lie.

I totally don't already have a plan that involves milking highsec for tears and or ISK.

The proceeding statement is totally a lie.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

then we will just have to adapt to the new prices, which also mean modules which said alliances use will become as expensive as the taxes they put on carebears.So its a win win situation nobody has the upper hand.

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AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

So eventually most HS planets will either have a POCO for a nullsec alliance that isn't actually running PI, just collecting taxes

I hear CFC renters can choose their own PI taxes. CCP seems to be pushing people into 0.0

This is fantastic news. If we make enough from our highsec POCOs hopefully we can initiate a pogrom on our renters.

who does high-sec PI anyways? Might as well just scratch your balls and hope ISK drops to the floor. That **** is evne worse than mining.

who does high-sec PI anyways? Might as well just scratch your balls and hope ISK drops to the floor. That **** is evne worse than mining.

Stop being lazy and go shoot the offending poco(s)? It's not realistically possible to shut down every system in highsec. That is too many planets to cover.

then we will just have to adapt to the new prices, which also mean modules which said alliances use will become as expensive as the taxes they put on carebears.So its a win win situation nobody has the upper hand.

AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

Wow. CCP buffs null-sec bears again.

AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

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Did I mention we rent now?

EVERY Hisec Mercs/Griefer will just love to see more Nulbears come on their turf playing with POCOs.

EVERY carebear having a small fiber of PVP in them will want a piece of the pie.

I do not believe a 'single' nulsec entity owning all of Hisec POCOs, as it has been said, it is just not logistically possible. Maybe some regions of space, yes, I can picture this.

Also, funny number of Structure mails about POCOs being shot at.

EVERY Hisec Mercs/Griefer will just love to see more Nulbears come on their turf playing with POCOs.

EVERY carebear having a small fiber of PVP in them will want a piece of the pie.

I do not believe a 'single' nulsec entity owning all of Hisec POCOs, as it has been said, it is just not logistically possible. Maybe some regions of space, yes, I can picture this.

Also, funny number of Structure mails about POCOs being shot at.

Being scared is not an issue. Having to run 50+ jumps through hisec (no JBs, no titan bridges) every time any 10-man gang decides to take a potshot at one of their POCOs would get boring really fast. Realistically even the entire CFC isn't able to effectively project power over all of highsec on such scale. This isn't fighting a concentrated war in a single region against a single large entity. We're talking about swatting every single fly living in highsec. Even if no single highsec corp stands a chance in a direct fight, if the "combined forces of highsec" reinforce 10 POCOs in different corners of space every day, we can only defend so many until it's not worth the effort.

AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

This. ^ ^ Especially considering defensive fleets roaming Hisec from POCO to POCO are not in 0.0 doing what they usually do. Also, such ).) gangs/fleet will get blueballed all the times since this is Hisec and NPC stations. Boring, VERY quickly.

Also, I been a Nulbear myself, now reformed into Hisec wannabee PvPer, and not ashamed about it! \o/

So, thinking that a big nulsec entity will have the time and/or ressources to deal with constant Hisec POCO harrassment is unrealistic.

But as I said, small sectors of Hisec could possibly controlled by said Nulsec entities (staging systems/constellations). Also Hisec entities, enough big FW alliances/Corps to manage that in their chosen Hisec home systems and surroundings. Also, will attract fights, which is good from a PVP viewpoint.

Miniluv says hi.

Who wants to go to every planet in hisec and shoot structures? Raise your hand!

AmI the only one that has an issue with HI Sec POCOs? The comment on the announcement was that if a corporation set the tax rate too high, that was fine. People would just go elsewhere.

What happens when a large nullsec alliance decides that they want to shut down hisec PI for "fun" and sets the rate to 100% across 100's of systems.

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...Then you would need a few thousand of them since one guy can't do it alone. One big fat neck beard or one who has recently lost a lot of weight by eating ham and has recently dressed up as an admiral or commodore. So it would have to start with a guy like that getting orders from some kind of person who likes yoga, dire wolves and a love hate relationship with Jaegermeister. Okay so you would need that combo going and then thousands of sadistic mischief makers to follow along.

Did I mention we rent now?

This really is true. Most PI stuff goes to fuel nullsec POS arrays and make the POS equipment that we need. Taxes get raised, you charge more for the stuff you make, it is simple economics.

Also, I am pretty sure that player owned POCOs have a cap on how high you can set the tax, so there is also a limit there.

Have faith, we may end up owning all of the POCOs, but we won't shut you down!

Hi sec PI will become unprofitable unless you are in a large corp. Margins are already slim and the tax rate in my neighboring lo sec system is at 100%.

This is one source of income that newbies will lose. Apparently that is a good thing.

The NPC tax will continue for hi sec POCOs (as we want low sec POCOs to still be competitive). The tax rate stays the same, at 10% for export and 5% for import. This is then in addition to whatever tax the player owner sets.

How exactly is there any profit to be made owning a CO in hisec? If I put a tax on my POCO, nobody will use it because you still have to pay the NPC tax on top of it. People will just move to NPC controled planets.

On top of that, there's no penalty (aside from ammo) for going around destroying all the hisec COs and just not replacing them, thus crippling hisec PI operations. But I'm sure such greifing won't happen in a game like EVE.

How exactly is there any profit to be made owning a CO in hisec? If I put a tax on my POCO, nobody will use it because you still have to pay the NPC tax on top of it. People will just move to NPC controled planets.

On top of that, there's no penalty (aside from ammo) for going around destroying all the hisec COs and just not replacing them, thus crippling hisec PI operations. But I'm sure such greifing won't happen in a game like EVE.

I want to personally take the time to assure you that this would simply never happen. Its a complete logistical impossibility and horribly time consuming. It would require completely soulless person who enjoys sowing misery with little to no explanation why. Then you would need a few thousand of them since one guy can't do it alone. One big fat neck beard or one who has recently lost a lot of weight by eating ham and has recently dressed up as an admiral or commodore. So it would have to start with a guy like that getting orders from some kind of person who likes yoga, dire wolves and a love hate relationship with Jaegermeister. Okay so you would need that combo going and then thousands of sadistic mischief makers to follow along.

Of course then there is the entire logistical impossibility of wiping out all the POCOs and putting in place new POCOs so Hi Sec pays a hefty levy or Imperial Tax if you will. I mean to do this would be like shutting down Ice mining in Hi Sec and making a bunch of sniveling virgins cry loud enough to CCP to get mining ships a resistance buff so they can sit in front of a computer humping a rock. Ironic if you think about it because while they hump that rock their genitalia is atrophying from blood flow restrictions caused by a sedentary lifestyle and radiation from your laptop that you shouldn't actually sit in your lap stupid.

So now that you are done realizing "oh my God they are shriveled!" I just want to reaffirm that no entity in this game would want to wipe out POCOs purely for the fun of it and such a logistical feat would require a veritable swarm of neck beards. If such a group was around you have to ask yourself: Is it better to be at the right hand of the devil or in his path?

Did I mention we rent now?

None of the PI products have started rising in price. If this was going to have any real impact, speculators would be driving up prices already.

I'd be surprised if there are any COs or POCOs in Hi-Sec at all once the smoke clears.

theyll waste ALL their money wardeccing hundreds of corperations and wasting tons and tons of time and resources to kill each POCO. And they will be spread out through empire, so some people may be able to fight a war