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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.09.27 00:41:00 -
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The only problem is that almost exclusively means "bigger". And more bigger organizations just means more general blobbiness. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2013.09.27 00:44:00 -
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dickstars wouldn't defend against siphons. you'd /need/ guns. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Mysterious Intent
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.27 00:58:00 -
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I loved being part of a blob.
Shooting structures: USTZ, EUTZ, AUTZ and TZs that don't even have a 4-letter designation, never not shot structures
Wait a sec, this is an NPC corp alt. Welp |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
989
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:08:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:The only problem is that almost exclusively means "bigger". And more bigger organizations just means more general blobbiness.
So what? I know, the whole "solo players suffer when blobs win" thing, but there really is no way to prevent people from using numbers as an advantage. It's realistic, too, to be honest.
Friends are OP. Accept it, embrace it. It's pretty much the law of the game in everywhere but highsec, where you actually can stick your fingers in your ears and not play with other people if you want.
And sometimes, you want to do that, I get it. But EVE is an MMO first and foremost, it's a social game. There's stuff (other games) coming out soon more solo friendly anyway.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:16:00 -
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You've lost your sense of context here.
I have no problem with it in general, but massive blob fights are the one thing that nullsec does well. It really doesn't need further incentive, especially not when the intent is the exact opposite.
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Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation The Cursed Few
671
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:19:00 -
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If POS guns autoattack a siphon, it would be pretty useless, as this would mean you have to shoot down the guns, which in turn means that whoever you're trying to steal from will know you're up to something.
I hope to see them more like a tool for small corps/alliances to steal from the larger ones they can't possibly hope to match in outright combat. Go in all sneaky like, deploy them at some juicy R64s, go out and cause a ruckus somewhere else with a fast roaming gang as a diversion, then come back, grab the loot and be gone.
The other upbeat about these is that no longer will alliances be able to properly defend their POSses against smaller entities and such unless they actually hold/control the space the POSses are in. So groups like the old nomadic PL who owned a lot of moons, but didn't really control the space they were in, just dropped in hard and heavy on anyone messing with their income will have a harder time keeping their passive income streams running like that.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:28:00 -
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Xearal wrote:If POS guns autoattack a siphon, it would be pretty useless, as this would mean you have to shoot down the guns, which in turn means that whoever you're trying to steal from will know you're up to something. Totally troublesome for ~elitepvp~ ~wulfpax~ ~lookingforgudfites~ There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Ivan Krividus
Straightedge and Compass Industrial
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:33:00 -
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Yeah, I noticed that too, i wonder what CCP has planned, but even the idea i like |
Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:36:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:You've lost your sense of context here.
I have no problem with it in general, but massive blob fights are the one thing that nullsec does well. It really doesn't need further incentive, especially not when the intent is the exact opposite.
But that's the point. When you drop a dozen of these in Deklein, someone drops a dozen in Fountain, others a dozen in Vale you break up the blob. Not only does it not make sense to form one big blob and go all three places in turn, you're giving them free time to siphon more by not splitting up to remove all 36 as quickly as possible.
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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:38:00 -
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Aragoni wrote:Beware! I sense RL-communists coming to the game to practice for the Revolution! Viva Ch+¬! VIVA LA REVOLUCI+ôN!
La Revolution was 200 years ago, mate. Those damn rebel Caldari still refuse to admit that they're still part of the Gallente FEderation. |
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:45:00 -
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Vald Tegor wrote:But that's the point. When you drop a dozen of these in Deklein, someone drops a dozen in Fountain, others a dozen in Vale you break up the blob. Not only does it not make sense to form one big blob and go all three places in turn, you're giving them free time to siphon more by not splitting up to remove all 36 as quickly as possible.
I do agree with the "not being able to farm where you dont live" effect, but that's hardly the same thing as "breaking up the blob". An achievement no doubt, but a relatively minor one compared to driving smaller scale and more regular conflict. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:19:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:Vald Tegor wrote:But that's the point. When you drop a dozen of these in Deklein, someone drops a dozen in Fountain, others a dozen in Vale you break up the blob. Not only does it not make sense to form one big blob and go all three places in turn, you're giving them free time to siphon more by not splitting up to remove all 36 as quickly as possible. I do agree with the "not being able to farm where you dont live" effect, but that's hardly the same thing as "breaking up the blob". An achievement no doubt, but a relatively minor one compared to driving smaller scale and more regular conflict. The effect, if done right, will be three fleets of 20-50 dudes going to deal with it. Driving small scale regular conflict. As opposed to a CTA to save a reinforced tower, where four hundred dudes show up.
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1212
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:21:00 -
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Or scheduled blob fleets that systematically burn through all the siphons at regular intervals throughout the day. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4624
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:27:00 -
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Make sure the siphons have a LOT OF HP
To make shooting them as painful as possible
they should also online nearly instantly and be very small There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.09.27 07:09:00 -
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ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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