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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:56:00 -
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In Rubicon, our upcoming winter expansion, the certificate system is getting a complete makeover!
CCP Ytterbium explains the details in his new dev blog. Please leave your feedback! CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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Bubanni
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
778
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:02:00 -
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first Supercap nerf - change ewar immunity https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194759 Module activation delay! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1180934 |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9610
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:09:00 -
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Are you a certed pilot or not...
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witchking42
UNFRL Fleet Operations
113
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:09:00 -
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Cool changes..but then my wife always knew I'd be certified one day |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1562
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:09:00 -
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I don't think the skills tab of the character sheet is the best place for the certificate planner. It's not very visible- I have never used that tab ever. The tutorial directs newbies to the skillqueue, doesn't it? And it's the window I use all the time. When I was a newbie I'd plan skills by opening the skillqueue and the certificate planner and working with those windows. Wouldn't certificates be better placed as part of the skillqueue window so newbies are more likely to see it? |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
344
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:16:00 -
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niiiceee
Finally T2 guns dont need smaller size specialisation WOOT Read and support: Don't mess with OUR WH's What is Your stance on WH stuff? |
FightingMoose
Norse'Storm Battle Group
5
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:18:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:I don't think the skills tab of the character sheet is the best place for the certificate planner. It's not very visible- I have never used that tab ever. The tutorial directs newbies to the skillqueue, doesn't it? And it's the window I use all the time. When I was a newbie I'd plan skills by opening the skillqueue and the certificate planner and working with those windows. Wouldn't certificates be better placed as part of the skillqueue window so newbies are more likely to see it?
e: then again that's only my own experience :/
more importantly, does this mean i can refer to myself as a MEGATHRON MASTER?
Don't you have to open the open the skills window to get to the skill planner? Seems like a fine place to put it. I also assume the tutorial will be updated to include the new certificates. CCP Goliath: Seriously, we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
1924
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:18:00 -
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That's some /bad/ scaling artefacts on the shrunk text.
Anyway, can we get a read only CREST end point sometime soon, so I can implement player/corp/alliance defined certificates, with various access rights?
Public/private isn't enough, but public/private/corp/alliance/code is probably good. Especially for custom certs. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Antoine Jordan
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:19:00 -
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Bring back Cert claiming, I love to click that button! |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
514
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:22:00 -
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awesome stuff...
the list of skills on the ship could use some breaking up though reading through 15 skills on a battleship gets a little tedious in a list format..
I love the changes to the gun requirements .. long overdue mind. Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1216
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:23:00 -
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Cool you do this first... but i want DevBlogs and threads about the main stuff that will be in Rubicon |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1562
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:23:00 -
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FightingMoose wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:I don't think the skills tab of the character sheet is the best place for the certificate planner. It's not very visible- I have never used that tab ever. The tutorial directs newbies to the skillqueue, doesn't it? And it's the window I use all the time. When I was a newbie I'd plan skills by opening the skillqueue and the certificate planner and working with those windows. Wouldn't certificates be better placed as part of the skillqueue window so newbies are more likely to see it?
e: then again that's only my own experience :/
more importantly, does this mean i can refer to myself as a MEGATHRON MASTER? Don't you have to open the open the skills window to get to the skill planner? Seems like a fine place to put it. I also assume the tutorial will be updated to include the new certificates. was it crucible that added the little progress bar to the neocom? i joined just before crucible, and have always clicked the little progress bar to get to the skillqueue. i've also always kept the certificate planner on the neocom.
maybe i'm just peculiar |
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc Zero Hour Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:24:00 -
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I take it the certificate sharing remains untouched? (showing off your certs or keeping them set private) |
SkyMeetFire
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:25:00 -
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Always liked the idea of certs, and hopefully this implementation will get closer to them reaching the utility for them I hoped for initially. This way might make it easier to suggest what someone should train when trying to get new pilots up to speed. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
4329
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:26:00 -
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Speaking as a long-time vet, I have the same reaction to these certificates as to the last ones: "Erm... Ok."
I hope they're useful to newer pilots.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
1924
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:26:00 -
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Liner Xiandra wrote:I take it the certificate sharing remains untouched? (showing off your certs or keeping them set private)
Quote: Certificates can no longer be set as public (feedback showed this option was not used for obvious intel reasons)
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Shinzhi Xadi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:27:00 -
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I have many times used the certificates to help new players see what to train for the first few months.
These changes are a BIG improvement on the system, and I applaud the team that tackled this! |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1562
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:28:00 -
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Antoine Jordan wrote:Bring back Cert claiming, I love to click that button! it's strangely satisfactory. also, a 'certificate earned' sound like the new one that plays when you finish a skill would be great :3
when i joined my first corp (pretty much the same one as now) i asked the ceo if he could help me as a newbie. he said, "what's your current goal in eve?", and i replied, "i want the elite core certificate and an arbitrator" |
Zilero
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
96
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:31:00 -
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Nope, just NOPE. Bad CCP, BAD CCP.
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Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
514
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:33:00 -
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Quote:That means redundant ones, like the Starter Profession Certificates, will be removed as they serve no practical purpose My Caldari Special Forces Elite... but... but... RP! Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
3780
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:35:00 -
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A few comments: - I would have preferred making training missiles harder than making training guns easier. I'll get over it. - You're going to auto redeem all my hundreds of unclaimed certificates. :( - You should make T2 ammo usable in faction guns while you're at it.
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Dalmont Delantee
DucKtape Unlimited SpaceMonkey's Alliance
172
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:36:00 -
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In before "reimburse my skills for guns etc" bollocks |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1307
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:38:00 -
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looks good to me... cannot find anything i do not like. and big plus one for tech II weapon training... There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Vestus Regula
Moratorium Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:39:00 -
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Gunnery specialization requirements is what "balanced" that tree against missiles. On missiles, you could choose what to specialize on right away, but you had to train a different "base" skill on each tier for short and long range. That make specializing on a specific group quicker than guns, but on all of them slower. With this so called "tiercide" happening on the gunnery skills, that fine "balance" is gone through the window.
Is there anything planned for the missile skills tree or is that yet another way missiles are being rendered utterly useless and obsolete? |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1307
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:40:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote: - You should make T2 ammo usable in faction guns while you're at it.
this!
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
182
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:46:00 -
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This is absolutely brilliant. Thank you! "Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."
"Do not be too positive. The light at the end of the tunnel could be a train." - Franz Kafka |
Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
182
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:47:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:A few comments: - I would have preferred making training missiles harder than making training guns easier. I'll get over it. - You're going to auto redeem all my hundreds of unclaimed certificates. :( - You should make T2 ammo usable in faction guns while you're at it.
-Liang
1. Big deal honestly. The disrepency was huge, and it was rather silly for guns. 2. You'll also not have 300+ useless and pointless certs anymore. 3. What? "Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."
"Do not be too positive. The light at the end of the tunnel could be a train." - Franz Kafka |
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
279
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:49:00 -
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Vestus Regula wrote:Gunnery specialization requirements is what "balanced" that tree against missiles. On missiles, you could choose what to specialize on right away, but you had to train a different "base" skill on each tier for short and long range. That make specializing on a specific group quicker than guns, but on all of them slower. With this so called "tiercide" happening on the gunnery skills, that fine "balance" is gone through the window.
Is there anything planned for the missile skills tree or is that yet another way missiles are being rendered utterly useless and obsolete?
I wouldn't mind seeing more support skills added to the Gunner tree. |
Aethlyn
EVE University Ivy League
233
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Posted - 2013.09.30 18:02:00 -
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Sounds interesting; and "completionists" get something new to aim for? Hm... still won't train those silly 30 days for 2% more damage (yet)! :) Looking for more thoughts? Follow me on Twitter. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1361
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Posted - 2013.09.30 18:05:00 -
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Antoine Jordan wrote:Bring back Cert claiming, I love to click that button!
As do I, in the forlorn hope that I may have at least one to claim. This is not a signature. |
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