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Malcolm Shinhwa
bad touches
349
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Posted - 2013.10.01 15:14:00 -
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WhipDiddyWhip wrote:can someone link where ccp said about theses changes?
being a 4 month old player i like this idea, it already takes an age to just become effective at pvp, this should help new players fly ships they are actually interested in effectively instead of just staring at a skill queue for months
I was in a wormhole in my beloved hurricane with all t1 gear blasting at guys in tengus and such when I was just 3 months old. How did I do it? Friends, I have them. They take me places and we do wonderful things. If you're waiting around to be "effective" at PvP then you need to change something: your friends, your expectations, something... newbros straight out of the tutorials can be effective at PvP and 10yr old vets can suck at it. Eve, with its many warts, is fantastic in that regard. Hey CCP, please slush my fund like you did for SOMER Blink. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16735
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Posted - 2013.10.01 15:16:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In my day, it took forever to train gunnery. And if your gunnery skills were too low, a t-rex would sneak into your hangar and eat your turrets! Uphill both ways! Poor t-rex. Supposedly, they really struggle with hills.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
32
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Posted - 2013.10.01 15:17:00 -
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OP never made an alt? My strictly cruiser alt is gonna be very happy. I'm only sad this will roll out after I have maxed my lazor skills as I'd love to skip small lazors. Oh well. |
Renegade Heart
Rogue Agenda
0
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Posted - 2013.10.01 16:03:00 -
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don't know why people are moaning about this because at the end of the day those small and medium turrets are more fun to use imo
maybe these guys just run missions in a battleship all day |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1146
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Posted - 2013.10.01 16:08:00 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:don't know why people are moaning about this because at the end of the day those small and medium turrets are more fun to use imo
maybe these guys just run missions in a battleship all day Silly! Everyone knows that if you are missioning in a battleship you use small guns only! It helps hit the frigates and means you can load up your low slots with 1600mm plate. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
114
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Posted - 2013.10.01 16:20:00 -
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I, for one, am climbing on this bandwagon - I want my free skill points I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
Radelix Cisko
Patriot Security Services The Laughing Men
112
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Posted - 2013.10.01 16:24:00 -
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meh, train your gunnery skills and be happy about it. Someone said earlier its going to be fun to blap ****-fit noob piloted BS's who just finished Large Projectiles 1. To be fair my kb is lopsided on the loss side so I could use a few fish in a barrel. |
0mez
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.10.01 16:31:00 -
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Knew there was a reason why I am only training missiles up to the new patch :) but ye, T2 large turrets before were what... well over 60 days to train? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16736
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Posted - 2013.10.01 16:33:00 -
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Vol Arm'OOO wrote:I, for one, am climbing on this bandwagon - I want my free skill points They wouldn't be free, you knowGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
321
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Posted - 2013.10.01 16:34:00 -
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what a bunch of b!tch@s Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
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Radelix Cisko
Patriot Security Services The Laughing Men
113
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Posted - 2013.10.01 16:35:00 -
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0mez wrote:Knew there was a reason why I am only training missiles up to the new patch :) but ye, T2 large turrets before were what... well over 60 days to train?
on a flat remap looks like it is about 90 with the support skills. However one does not need battleships or Oracles to PVP. Some of my best times in PVP was with AF's with T2 Small turrets which are much easier to train for. |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
533
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In my day, it took forever to train gunnery. And if your gunnery skills were too low, a t-rex would sneak into your hangar and eat your turrets! Uphill both ways! Poor t-rex. Supposedly, they really struggle with hills. Don't even get me started on their problems operating the ship's controls. Those tiny arms are just ridiculous! CCP, debuff Barges, or buff Ganking. Either will do for me, but we need more Yaaar! in this game lest it become WoW in Spaaaaace! -á~ Me |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16739
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:35:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Tippia wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In my day, it took forever to train gunnery. And if your gunnery skills were too low, a t-rex would sneak into your hangar and eat your turrets! Uphill both ways! Poor t-rex. Supposedly, they really struggle with hills. Don't even get me started on their problems operating the ship's controls. Those tiny arms are just ridiculous! I suppose that's why they have to settle for F-14s. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
11
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:37:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:
This is useless to me because I have trained everything in gunnery and a bit of a **** take tbh
The skills have not been removed, nor been made useless, as such there won't be any SP refund. It is also rather silly to ask for one. Quite pointless in fact. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3455
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:38:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Tippia wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In my day, it took forever to train gunnery. And if your gunnery skills were too low, a t-rex would sneak into your hangar and eat your turrets! Uphill both ways! Poor t-rex. Supposedly, they really struggle with hills. Don't even get me started on their problems operating the ship's controls. Those tiny arms are just ridiculous!
Not much use for them in the captain's quarters either. :-( |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
409
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:41:00 -
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I hate to sign on with the whiners....
Am I losing total SP?
I don't see any other way they can lower the skill training time
If I'm losing SP I do want a refund.
when they removed learning skills it didn't ultimately "Change" anything, but we spent time investing in those skills and that time could have been spent elsewhere.
It's not like they haven't already made a precedent on this... If you take away SP, you refund them so people that could have used them elsewhere can use them elsewhere. How does that not makes sense? |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
409
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:42:00 -
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Meiyang Lee wrote:JinSanJong wrote:
This is useless to me because I have trained everything in gunnery and a bit of a **** take tbh
The skills have not been removed, nor been made useless, as such there won't be any SP refund. It is also rather silly to ask for one. Quite pointless in fact.
Do the total amount of SP in the skills change? |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
409
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:44:00 -
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Found the link on the last page.
Only the REQUIREMENTS for some skills have changed?
NO, people shouldn't get refunds for that. I have to agree |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16739
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:46:00 -
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Pr1ncess Alia wrote:Am I losing total SP? No. The only thing that changes is that, had you wanted to, you could have trained for Large T2 turrets before you trained for Small T2 turrets (or you could have skipped small T2 entirely).
But your abilities and skills and SP remain exactly the same, and anyone who wants to have the same abilities as you have will still have to put the same amount of training time and SP into the same skills GÇö only potentially in a different order than you did. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
533
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:51:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:Tippia wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In my day, it took forever to train gunnery. And if your gunnery skills were too low, a t-rex would sneak into your hangar and eat your turrets! Uphill both ways! Poor t-rex. Supposedly, they really struggle with hills. Don't even get me started on their problems operating the ship's controls. Those tiny arms are just ridiculous! Not much use for them in the captain's quarters either. :-( Nor are they useful for aerobatics...
That's it: T-Rex arms need to be buffed! CCP, debuff Barges, or buff Ganking. Either will do for me, but we need more Yaaar! in this game lest it become WoW in Spaaaaace! -á~ Me |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1565
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:59:00 -
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NO |
admiral root
Red Galaxy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
599
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:05:00 -
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I can't believe it took so long for this thread to get started. The trolls must be slacking. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
875
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:08:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:S Implementing stuff like this is simply not fair to the people who have (and there are many) who have spent a lot of time training these gunnery skills. I know similar things have been done in the past, but we are talking on a much larger scale here, MUCH larger.
This is useless to me because I have trained everything in gunnery and a bit of a **** take tbh
Or you could just take this opportunity to train those skills on another character and enjoy the time savings. DUH.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
533
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:40:00 -
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I, for one, can't see any point in whiging abuot the changes. Yeah, I've thrown a lot of time down a *potential* rat-hole, training lesser turrets, but yanno? It's not like I'm not using those skills. Sure, I don't fly frigates or cruisers every day, but when I *do,* I surely don't regret those well-polished small-turret skills! CCP, debuff Barges, or buff Ganking. Either will do for me, but we need more Yaaar! in this game lest it become WoW in Spaaaaace! -á~ Me |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
874
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:54:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Tippia wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In my day, it took forever to train gunnery. And if your gunnery skills were too low, a t-rex would sneak into your hangar and eat your turrets! Uphill both ways! Poor t-rex. Supposedly, they really struggle with hills. Don't even get me started on their problems operating the ship's controls. Those tiny arms are just ridiculous!
but with 2 of these & suddenly he's king of the world !! |
SpoonRECKLESS
Veldspar United
51
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Posted - 2013.10.01 21:03:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:A SP refund alone will not do as I trained many of these skills years ago.
I demand a SP refund with interest. I think 7.5% interest/month would be fair but I am open to negotiations on the exact number.
I want also a refund on all my ships lost because it wasn't a fair fight and I was noobish back then. As well a refund on skill points for training Caldari!! I knew I should've of gone with the hooded people!!!! Blue
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Sharanelle
Pixel Navigators
13
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:19:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:You should be thankful. CCP has given you a great "In my day...!" story to tell to nooblets when you become a bittervet.
+1 ... |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5821
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:29:00 -
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Totally called it. As someone who bit the bullet and trained these skills anyway, I still think it's awesome they're going through with this. I have no regrets whatsoever about training the skills I had to train to get to where I am now. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5821
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:50:00 -
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And yes, it's totally fair.
Why? Because you can use the smaller T2 turrets, having trained for the larger ones. It'll take just as long to train all of them to the same levels as you and I have them, it'll just be faster to train for the T2 turret type and size that you want.
And considering how medium turrets have been made awesome, it's a good thing we can all use them. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
47
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:58:00 -
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About damn time... Those of us with an army of alts cringe at T2 gun training. |
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