Keres drone bay is a joke! One pidly light drone. I don't want to be insulting, but seriously are you ******* high (see I did not say something else)? anyway ffs

You should make it at least 10/20 and then it might be worth actually spending time on interacting with the damn dronebay. Wait **** that. You are giving the Sentinel 20/60, and the new SOE frig 25/75. It should be at least 15/30.

Also, ecm boats need no buffing. Too much agility on the Kitsune. And where is it written that you had to double the ewar range bonus? Couldn't you have stopped at 15 or 20% per level? Why do you want to end up with 125% optimal on this particular ship, a tech II ecm frig? Sure all those frigs that might fly out to catch it have such hefty sensor strength.

Damn... so... Sentinel? Wow, that's insanely epicly going to be OP, awesome until then though.

OP only compared to the competition though, the Hyena, Keres, and Kitsune will remain "meh" for the time being.

Hyena is better, but I don't see it being that great. A 3% per level bonus? No other ship has anything nearly that pitiful, and on sig radius reduction of all things? C'mon CCP... I mean its ok, but I'd rather fly an AF like a Blarpy.

This thread seems to be one big collective "Meh" aside from the Sentinel.

i dont quite get the wording on the first EAF skill bonus, how can something go to +80% with 40% per level?

Solid overall. But does the Hyena really need longer webs than a rapier. I mean, they're annoying as it is for kite ships. Now a pasky frigs will be able to web you from even further. Perhaps 40% as the Rapier and Hugin currently have would be fine and also maybe considering to bump down the bonus for both this and the recons to 30% per level would be a good idea?

I can't understand how many people see something "Overpowered" Or just generally powerful and getting all excited about CCP giving them that powerful thing..

Instead of thinking of the fact that everyone else gets it.. and will have it even when you are not in it...


so many people just seem to get super excited at the thought of winmobiles...

This ship class has been dead for four years. Ewar is supposed to have a 'pucker' effect and to give the class the neccesary oomph is going to rock the boat. Once everyone gets past the 'omygod the range' reaction they will realize that these are 20 million isk frigates with little tank and abnormally large sig radii. They are going to get blapped often.

Love the sentinel change.

With the only guarantee that you can permajam noobships, the Kitsune, while improved is still laughable

KITSUNE

Caldari Frigate Bonuses:
20% bonus to ECM target jammer strength per level
20% reduction in ECM target jammers' capacitor need per level (Instead of: 10% reduction in ECM target jammers' capacitor need per level)

Electronic Attack Ships Bonuses:
25% bonus to ECM target jammer optimal range per level (+12.5% per level)
20% reduction in ECM target jammers cycle time (Instead of: 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level)

(maybe even incorporate its capacitor bonus into the hull?)


With this you reduce the cycle time of its jammers, allowing a better allocation in fast frigate combats, increase the survivability of the kitsune without makeing it much stronger, and keep a tactical niche to it no other jamming ship has.

KITSUNE

Caldari Frigate Bonuses:
20% bonus to ECM target jammer strength per level
20% reduction in ECM target jammers' capacitor need per level (Instead of: 10% reduction in ECM target jammers' capacitor need per level)

Electronic Attack Ships Bonuses:
25% bonus to ECM target jammer optimal range per level (+12.5% per level)
20% reduction in ECM target jammers cycle time (Instead of: 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level)

(maybe even incorporate its capacitor bonus into the hull?)


With this you reduce the cycle time of its jammers, allowing a better allocation in fast frigate combats, increase the survivability of the kitsune without makeing it much stronger, and keep a tactical niche to it no other jamming ship has.

I... Can't seriously believe fozzie that you think giving a linked, fed webbed hyena 87K web range is some how a good idea. Nano PvP will be completely eclipsed with this ******* monster unleashed. Its going to be fast as all hell, have amazing sig tank, and disgusting web range- all for a cheap, easily trainable hull.

In fact all of the EAF's have gotten ridiculous. EWAR is so punishing to a small gang / solo pilot. This kind of unprecedented boost really places that community in a very, very difficult spot. Were these ships just made for some AT shenanigans?

Please explain to me how you see a gang dealing with that hyena? Just bring enough maulus of their own to damp everything down?

This is so far over the top. I can understand the huginn / rapier having some nice bonues. They are expensive, difficult to train, and can at least be shot at / killed. EvE has no place for these EAF monsters. EWAR is just to brutal on these frig hulls.

Play better then. Pretty much. I too hate the ECM mechanics, but still I think it has a place in gamemechanics. If you are so worried bout stuff like ability to kite away, just warp on and off, until you split them enough. And after all, the hyena is and will be oneshottable. Keres then again is not to a solo pilot, as it will damp you to 0km

Minmatar already sacrifice bonuses with the weakest of ALL e war ( painters) it sfair that they have a STRONG power on the other ewar.

Or how many rapiers use TP? THe hyena will fly with 2 bonus NEVER used. BEcause is always better to carry a secodn web than a target painter.

If these things go live as is, the only viable ship to solo around in will be a RLML Cerberus.
Seriously. Increasing their range was the wrong idea.

In fact all of the EAF's have gotten ridiculous. EWAR is so punishing to a small gang / solo pilot.

If these things go live as is, the only viable ship to solo around in will be a RLML Cerberus.
Seriously. Increasing their range was the wrong idea.