Wow. Some of you guys really can't wrap your heads around the idea of a ship using drones as the primary or possibly only weapon.

50% bonus to Medium Energy Turret optimal range

@CCP Rise, show us how you'd honestly fit this ship. Post your EFT fit for the Stratios or GTFO. Lets see if you finally realize how much of a bone headed idea those stats are.

Really?



Seems like a primary weapons system to me.

Unless it's an exceptionally stupid camp that doesn't have a can to decloak you on their drag bubble, I fail to see how warping to a gate uncloaked vs cloaked, all else being equal, can really hurt you. You'll either hit a bubble and get decloaked or you'll reach the gate and decloak when you land on it.

Which is kind of dumb, given that most nullsec stuff can be ran in Ishtars or Gilas. Navy Vexors can do lower end anoms.


If CCP is really expecting the SoE BS to be the Nullsec plex runner, they really haven't been paying attention to what people in nullsec actually do.

Wow so the SoE ships (cruiser in particular) just went from awesome to mediocre in one fell swoop. If these are supposed to be cloaky drone based exploration ships why not keep the 125 bandwidth and remove some/all turret points? And if these are supposed to be laser based exploration ships why not just remove the drone bandwidth even more and give them better laser bonuses?

[quote=Shepard Wong Ogeko]Wow. Some of you guys really can't wrap your heads around the idea of a ship using drones as the primary or possibly only weapon.

Amarr Cruiser Bonus:
60% heavy missile damage
Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
4% bonus to Armor Resists

While I salute your attempt at making the highslot weapons useful, I do think the idea of lasers is good because of the ammo usage. Missiles limits the idea of being able to fly around without caring about ammo.

It is rather boring with a optimal bonus to the lasers, as I currently find tight-orbiting with Heavy Drones & Pulse Lasers a lot more efficient than trying to snipe with this ship. While having the armor resist bonus is needed if you're supposed to armor-tank this ship with so little HP I'd rather have it as a role bonus and have the Amarr Cruiser skill be something like rate of fire or damage on lasers to make them meaningful.

The Astero on the other hand has no damage bonus at all, only drone HP which is just silly bad if you don't suck at controlling them. Feels like an expensive Covert Ops ships to me, only it can field 3 sets of light drones, but dies quick enough anyways.

Reason is they added in Drone agro, which was a bad bad bad idea no other ship weapon has the possibility of having its main damage dealing system blown off.

So until they revert it to days of old, drone ships won't fly with many a pilot.

I agree, and there use in exploring and the new exploring sites will help them stay in high demand also. I do wish the Stratios had a better bonus then the 50% the optmial range for lasers, it won't keep people from using proj or hybrids on them at all. If they gave it 100% damage bonus and only gave it 2 gun slots and took one high slot out then lasers would pretty much need to be used. But where would that high slot end up, med or low? Or would keeping the 5th high slot work better? It would also need a slight PG and CPU reduction too.

i cant understand why some people dislike the drones as main weapon system.

drones are excelent for exploration. (they may be even the best weapon system for exploration)
-they have dmg flexibility
-they have a great bandwidth of application along the sizes + sentries
-they don't use ammo and cargo space
-you can even use em to escape gankers (ec-***) which other weapon system can do that?

and they aren't good in pvp (with few exceptions) so they can be balanced to be strong in pve (->exploration) without being op in pvp.....

Reason is they added in Drone agro, which was a bad bad bad idea no other ship weapon has the possibility of having its main damage dealing system blown off.

So until they revert it to days of old, drone ships won't fly with many a pilot.

Reason is they added in Drone agro, which was a bad bad bad idea no other ship weapon has the possibility of having its main damage dealing system blown off.

So until they revert it to days of old, drone ships won't fly with many a pilot.

Sad thing about these is you didn't make them modular like the Tengu etc, and where's the larger classes???

Infact why haven't you gotten around to revamping ships entirely so a 'Battleship' is actually a capital ship not some wimpy left over the size of a peanut.

I want a battleship the size of a carrier in line and scale with the rest of the capital ships.

All the ships need reclassifying and preferably all made modular so the player has one ship hull for it racial class and size and can customise it to do what he needs it to do.

Simplify eve but at the same time add functionality.

The SOE ship models look refreshing, the cruiser model tbh should be the battleship model and upscaled dramatically IMHO.

But I definately want to see all ships go modular, where the modules change the ship appearence and function and even its tier based on what's fitted.

Instead of the ever increasing mountain of ships and skills.

If nothing changes after deploy Rubicon patch, i think(solo players grab):

Stratios goes run DED sites under 4/10 and data/relic sites(hi/sec low/sec) + PVP

T3 with Mobile Depot goes run DED sites upper 4/10, WH, Nullsec, Low/sec

What peoples think about that?

Peoples think Stratios is too weak for the job and urgently needs that one stolen drone back! Stronger tank would be handy as well, did I mention LARGER cargohold? Btw, having "space yurt" at hand why would anyone bother with underperforming cruiser? Sure, it looks eye candy but after the initial excitement wears off, most explorers will find her to be just another expensive dusty ship in the hangar.

CCP put the 125 bandwidth back.... yes... pls...

Its a pirate ship... it should be OP compared to other crusiers!