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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:29:00 -
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The highsec customs office change is extremely big, although IMO not in the way that the tinfoil hatters ("grrrr scary Goons!") think it is. A lot of conflict will be generated over this as various groups figure out how to game the system. It may take a while for the impact to be fully realized.
New ships are quite big. One new ship is big. How long has it been?
Rubicon already looks more like a real expansion than Odyssey. CCP should really stop calling the minor tweaks "expansions." Roll out a few of the larger tweaks with the patches a few times a years and then do one awesome serious expansion once a year.
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Arduemont
12 pound opinion
1989
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:41:00 -
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It depends really on how you define BIG. If you mean BIG, as in large development effort then there is nothing big coming. The customs offices changes is probably just an SQL statement. Hell, most of the balancing changes are just a series of SQL statements.
Some Dev wrote:UPDATE PocoTable SET IsDestroyable=true;
If you mean impact on the game, then there are a lot of things that will have a massive impact on the game. The customs office change will change things dramatically, and the deploy-able structures really will.
However, I will not be satisfied by the devs making big changes with no effort because they think they can fob us off with **** polished up. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
725
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:44:00 -
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The amount of tears for failed patch will be big. They are adding code so the patch itself might be big. The amount of new launcher threads will be big.
It's not like it's hard to find some big things about rubicon... |
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:46:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:
If you mean impact on the game, then there are a lot of things that will have a massive impact on the game. The customs office change will change things dramatically, and the deploy-able structures really will.
However, I will not be satisfied by the devs making big changes with no effort because they think they can fob us off with **** polished up.
Yes, I mean impact on the game -- positive impact, that is. This means more players playing it and good feedback, which hopefully will translate in the long term to what you're looking for in an expansion.
I understand where you're coming from but I'm not going to speculate on what's going on behind the scenes at CCP. If they're releasing content that has a positive impact on the game then I'm OK. |
LuisWu
25cm sin bonus
46
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:50:00 -
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Warp times for some ships are going to be really big. |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
363
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:15:00 -
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The biggest change will be the waistline of the average player sitting in front of a computer playing this game during the holiday seasons... |
Spurty
986
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:27:00 -
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Interceptor pilots flying around null uninhibited means that all that space in the outskirts of the map will be visited (unlikely to see any pvp come from this, but baby steps! Get people out to null first). --- GòöGòùGòöGòÉGòªGòù GòæGòÜGòúGòæGòæGòÜGòù GòÜGòÉGò¬GòÉGò¬GòÉGò¥
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Tron 3K
Ship Spinning Industries
105
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:29:00 -
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Would you guys rather spend 50-60 bucks for 1 expansion a year that takes up all their time? That is pretty much the only alternative we'd have. Either they do these 2 smaller "expansions" for free or one and make us pay more.. |
Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
209
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Posted - 2013.10.03 17:09:00 -
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Its significant that we get pile of new structures... One that can steal moongoo from POS mining the moon. Hey piracy in nullsec. Take blockade runner and go steal some moongoo from nullsec alliances moonmining posses.. No need for ninja moonmining towers anymore...
Player owned pocos in highsec, thats a big change... And the little we know about the vision.. theres great things comeing in next couple years... They talk about space travel mastering. Sounds like new systems to explore and conquer.. We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
1989
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Posted - 2013.10.03 17:17:00 -
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Dasola wrote:theres great things comeing in next couple years...
Of course there is. It's not like we've heard that before or anything. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
183
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Posted - 2013.10.03 17:42:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Would be hilarious to see Concord fleets showing up in null sec, and just start shooting things.
They would be hot dropped faster than you could say "bridge to". |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3462
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Posted - 2013.10.03 18:39:00 -
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SOE ships not big? |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3285
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Posted - 2013.10.03 18:41:00 -
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Yea, your mom. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
4
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Posted - 2013.10.03 19:45:00 -
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Random Majere wrote:You want to see something big?
[Unzips pants]
Your backside? Please don't |
Tasha Saisima
State War Academy Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2013.10.03 19:52:00 -
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Expansion feels like a .1 patch tbh |
Oxylan
QRDELESH - Mutual Admiration Society
53
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Posted - 2013.10.03 20:07:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Just wondering if we are going to see some significant changes and updates rather just another improvements or tweaks to existing?
Well new ships, that is cool because i need somtging fresh to train like new skills, maybe more wars in high sec because of new custom offices changes, also new station look.
Game mechanic changes - No If it bleed we can kill it. |
Jessica Aubari
South West Trading
7
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Posted - 2013.10.03 20:17:00 -
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you can't tell the size of anything without having something to compare it to. you have no idea how big it is. so thanks for your smart input with a link to a picture that says nothing about its size. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
6120
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Posted - 2013.10.03 20:31:00 -
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And here I was thinking that CCP was giving us the tools to create our own content. I should have realized that CCP was supposed to make content all along.
I guess ill go take my new nullified ceptor and go not do stuff until CCP makes me do something. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
283
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:04:00 -
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They are adding hats and cats, new ships, 32 new modules, more ships rebalancing, drones UI and AI fixes, new missions, the door will finaly open in the captain quarter, T2 capitals and T2 capital gun, T3 bs and frigates. |
Capt Shippo
Pleasure Hub Marines
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:53:00 -
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*******WAR*******
All races have 48 hours to return to their home space with all their belongings.... |
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PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
313
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:04:00 -
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-The interceptor and warp changes have the potential to change the face of general pvp as we know it.
-The SoE cruiser is kinda ridiculous in it's current iteration.
-Siphons give small parties a way to tap into moon goo while simultaneously draining resources from larger entities.
-Depots will give everyone the ability to refit and re-arm their ships on extended deployments far away from friendly pos's/stations.
-Mobile Cynojammers. Enough said until we get actual details.
-EAF's recieve a massive buff. The sentinel gets ~30km neuts and the Hyena gets ~30km webs.
This is actually shaping up to be a far more impressive expansion than odyssey tbh. It's no smaller than inferno and retribution to be sure. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4676
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:11:00 -
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Jessica Aubari wrote:you can't tell the size of anything without having something to compare it to. you have no idea how big it is. so thanks for your smart input with a link to a picture that says nothing about its size. I would like a pocket carrier, ie: the old chimera model that was closer to battleship sized There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
313
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:16:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Jessica Aubari wrote:you can't tell the size of anything without having something to compare it to. you have no idea how big it is. so thanks for your smart input with a link to a picture that says nothing about its size. I would like a pocket carrier, ie: the old chimera model that was closer to battleship sized Well its got a 500m3 drone bay on a covops cruiser hull, so it's not THAT far off from being a pocket carrier. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
752
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:41:00 -
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Lady Skazka wrote:2 new potentially awesome ships which give a direct buff to black op fleets not good enough for you?
2 new ships <> an expansion....
I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:( Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5832
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Posted - 2013.10.04 00:11:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Velicitia wrote:untangling the original code That is more funny then current U.S. politics! They're literally bending over backwards, and tossing smoke bombs. All to avoid even touching the legacy code. Because, it's too hard to fix... Yeah that's why they went and changed warp acceleration which for years they said they wouldn't touch because legacy code. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5834
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Posted - 2013.10.04 00:25:00 -
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This IS a big expansion, I find it hard to believe you could actually think otherwise.
The balance changes to Marauders are some of the most significant balance changes to hit the game. I don't think anybody can predict how that's going to play out.
Warp acceleration changes are going to make a difference, as trivial as it may seem it's going to entirely change the way we travel. If you look at the graph you'll notice an interceptor goes from doing a 5 AU warp in ~32 seconds down to ~10 seconds in Rubicon. They'll actually be able to, you know, intercept things. Not to mention the bubble immunity.
You'll actually have a reason to use EAFs, and interdictors other than the Sabre.
The anchorable structures will have a huge impact on guerrilla-style warfare, particularly the siphon structure and the mobile cyno jammer. I think it's probably extremely difficult for anyone to predict how that's going to play out because it's such a massive game changer.
Not to mention there's an entirely NEW "pirate" faction of ships to play with, which look like they're going to be positively awesome. A covert ops cruiser with 125 drone bandwidth and 500 m^3 drone bay? This has some serious ass-kicking potential. There's no battleship yet but there probably will be in the future, I'm guessing.
Don't forget there are still features yet to be announced.
If you've never seen CCP Seagull speak about the future of EVE, now's the time to do so. You should especially look up her presentation during the EVE Keynote at Fanfest this year (link). It becomes clear we have someone very passionate and visionary at the reins who isn't afraid to take some risks.
Rubicon is just the beginning of this path. I don't blame them for wading out a bit and testing the waters. Rubicon is going to be game-changing enough, but the next expansion is going to blow the next several years out of the water, if CCP Seagull gets her way. I sure hope she does.
This expansion is called Rubicon for a reason. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2630
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Posted - 2013.10.04 00:36:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:**All this stuff** ^this...
I'd also like to add that the changes, I believe, are going to have a dramatic effect on low and null sec combat.
- Interceptors are immune to interdiction... so bubble camps are going to be a lot more vulnerable places to be even for campers. Honestly I don't know what CCP was thinking on this one, but it could get really nuts, with huge interceptor gangs just marauding around all over null. It will be fun until CCP has realized what they have done.
- Marauders are WTF monster machines for piracy now. If you can cut your on-gate time down my more than 50% because of increased damage dealing AND tanking, the career field is going to look a lot more attractive. I think we'll be seeing a lot of new gate camp tactics, and a lot of pirates are already thinking of replacing their vindis and macherials (OK maybe not the speedy macherial) for marauders.
- The new personal structures they are coming out with are going to let people easily set up multi day gate camps in some systems. You get fitting and resupply at a safespot sans sov? That's crazy! "roaming" gangs could take on a whole new meaning, and setting up camps DEEP in null is going to be a LOT more viable for small gangs now. ...also: This is the first step to modular POS's!!! FINALLY!
- SoE ships: Rad. An entirely new class of ship. Don't know enough to project an impact... but sounds kind of like a cross between a helios and recon cruiser. Which is cool.
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Literally Space Moses
One Man Incursion Corp.
34
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:04:00 -
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Guys I'm not getting enough free stuff in my free expansion help |
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone Caldari State
546
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Posted - 2013.10.04 03:09:00 -
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Guys were getting a glorified patch of trivial features for our subscription fees. Local chat will still be right there assuring 90% of potential pvp never happens. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1217
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Posted - 2013.10.04 05:28:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:JinSanJong wrote:Solstice Project's Alt wrote:No, you could as well unsub.
Bye. Was that the best troll you could come up with? please try harder He's not trolling... Obviously needs to seek professional help if he gets upset at a normal question. Thats just weird that someone would react like that, its not normal.
He is the professional help! |
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