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X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.10.03 17:32:00 -
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CCP said they were introducing Rapid Heavy Missile Launchers to the game in Rubicon. If the example of RLMs is anything to go by the ship bonus which will apply to RHMLs will be heavy missile damage (currently found on bcs and cruisers) and RHML RoF (currently found on no ships). However RHMLs will be a battleship sized weapon. What this means is that unless CCP create ship bonuses to go with the RHMLs then they simply won't work.
I propose that they simply add RHML bonuses to the present bonuses on the raven, navy raven, typhoon and navy typhoon in line with the present bonus. So 5% RHML RoF and 10% RHM velocity on the raven for example. Otherwise we'll get a weapon system without a platform.
Can CCP please confirm that they've remembered to create a platform for the weapon system? Thanks. |
Chessur
Strontless Mistakes Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.10.03 18:47:00 -
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+1
Seems logical that the rhmls would follow the rlm line. Keeping innate ship bonues intake would preserve the continuity of existing ship hulls and playstyles. |
Vrenth
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2013.10.03 19:13:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:CCP said they were introducing Rapid Heavy Missile Launchers to the game in Rubicon. If the example of RLMs is anything to go by the ship bonus which will apply to RHMLs will be heavy missile damage (currently found on bcs and cruisers) and RHML RoF (currently found on no ships). However RHMLs will be a battleship sized weapon. What this means is that unless CCP create ship bonuses to go with the RHMLs then they simply won't work.
I propose that they simply add RHML bonuses to the present bonuses on the raven, navy raven, typhoon and navy typhoon in line with the present bonus. So 5% RHML RoF and 10% RHM velocity on the raven for example. Otherwise we'll get a weapon system without a platform.
Can CCP please confirm that they've remembered to create a platform for the weapon system? Thanks.
CCP already stated in the video that they were adding bonuses to certain hulls. I believe the Raven and Rattlesnake were mentioned. |
Aglais
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
399
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Posted - 2013.10.03 19:21:00 -
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why do we need these |
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
878
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Posted - 2013.10.03 19:36:00 -
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Aglais wrote:why do we need these
Torps and even cruise aren't that great. A RHML thingy could be a good idea... or it could be hopeless. Depends on the stats, really. |
dexter xio
TURN LEFT
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Posted - 2013.10.03 19:55:00 -
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Aglais wrote:why do we need these
As CCP said, Gunnery platforms have a much wider choice of weapon types whereas Missile's have less choice, hence why they're introducing a new missile group to give missile users a wider choice, which is great! Dexter xio - That cool guy |
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
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Posted - 2013.10.03 20:03:00 -
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I'd think we can expect at least the Raven to include RHML in it's bonus, as that would follow the Caracal in the lineup. The Typhoon will likely pick up the bonus as well, as a continuation of the Bellicose. |
X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:34:00 -
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Yeah, typhoon and the raven are the main two that would need it. |
Harreeb Alls
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:01:00 -
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It would make me very happy if the Typhoon and navy Typhoon were bonused for the new missile system. FC's just don't want phoons in their fleet because of their poor dmg application, they view them as a liability. With rapid heavy's being bonused for these ships they will actually have damage they can apply, they may actually be worth undocking.
Great Idea +1 |
Gigan Amilupar
Legion of Darkwind
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:31:00 -
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Could I get a RHML bonus on my navy scorpion? Pretty Please? It would make my day. |
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Arya Regnar
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
287
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:22:00 -
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Once again Kwark makes a valid point.
+1
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Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:25:00 -
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Aren't all cruiser hulls that use missiles bonused for RLMLs? BCs were intentionally excluded to prevent RLML bonuses on BC hulls to avoid BCs that slaughter frigs.
But there's no "BC" above a BS, so it seems to me that every BS that's bonused for large missiles should get a RHML bonus. |
X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.10.04 05:59:00 -
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Gigan Amilupar wrote:Could I get a RHML bonus on my navy scorpion? Pretty Please? It would make my day. Sounds reasonable enough, hopefully CCP will listen. |
Sme Ematu
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:59:00 -
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Like the idea. Raven and typhoon would be great with RHML!
CCP make it happen =) |
elitatwo
Congregatio
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Posted - 2013.10.04 10:27:00 -
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Chris Winter wrote:Aren't all cruiser hulls that use missiles bonused for RLMLs? BCs were intentionally excluded to prevent RLML bonuses on BC hulls to avoid BCs that slaughter frigs.
But there's no "BC" above a BS, so it seems to me that every BS that's bonused for large missiles should get a RHML bonus.
If you haven't figured it out yet, the launchers you are referring to are "bonussed" already on any boat with a launcher slot that isn't a frigate.
And where did you get the info about those launchers? I hope they make them cool and evil
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Lina Theist
Rosendal Research and Development
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:05:00 -
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RHML has same stats as pre-nerf HMLs. Calling it now |
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
878
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:12:00 -
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Lina Theist wrote:RHML has same stats as pre-nerf HMLs. Calling it now
Pre-nerf HMLs are exactly the same as present-day HMLs, so this is a bad call.
(The nerf was to heavy missiles, not their launchers ) |
Verity Sovereign
Sovereign Fleet Tax Shelter
574
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Posted - 2013.10.04 13:00:00 -
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I'm calling it that they launch heavy missiles, but with a 20% lower cycle time (so 25% higher real ROF, not CCP ROF)
I'm also calling BS... unless they add equivalent gun forms to turrets (how about those twin 250mm rails actually behave like 250mm rails, but with a higher ROF, same for dual 150mms, and the same for other weapon systems - lasers, projectiles, etc) |
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