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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
299
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:29:00 -
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If it really were that hard to grab the valuable containers, prices for salvage and invention materials wouldn't have crashed so hard. You must be doing something wrong. I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42 |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
59
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:33:00 -
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the minigame is fun? |
Flex Carter
Caldari Independant Mining Association
108
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:54:00 -
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[sarcasm] I play a similar game with my son. I grab a handful of my pocket change and throw them against the wall. I then laugh my ass off as he chases the quarters all over the house among the dimes, nickels and penniesGǪ. I wonder if the GMGÇÖs do the same. |
Whim Aqayn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2013.10.04 10:23:00 -
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The whole hacking mini game thing is completely ******** anyway and pretty much made me stop doing exploration. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
143
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:02:00 -
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A Research Alt wrote:"Hey let's play a game at the end of this fun minigame where we take away some of what you just got depending on how well you do. Oh, and it's deliberately obtuse and annoying."
Gee thanks CCP. use a cargo scanner before you hack. u will see that their are 0-4 boxes you actually want. research what type of box will contain the wanted stuff, most sites u will collect 3-4 boxes then ignore the rest as you have all the valuble stuff. currently you are doing it wrong. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16753
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:07:00 -
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Ryhss wrote:Why did CCP "fix" what wasn't broken? idiots Because it was broken and offered zero gameplay.
OldWolf69 wrote:Cool, cool, i can already see 10 man gangs plundering sites in hisec, to get like 1m loot. Well, that's your problem for doing them in highsec, isn't it? The simple design decision remains the same: if you want to get absolutely everything, you have to do them in teams. This is as entirely as intended. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Rengerel en Distel
1975
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:07:00 -
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For those that think it's fine and fun, go try it in a wormhole.
Scan the container and it's all junk, so just 2 quick losses and move on? Nope, you get unlimited chances in a wormhole, so you have to finish each can to clear the site.
Oh, just read the name on the can? Nope, you're in a blinding white cloud with mini cans with white names floating by.
Good, you've got a friend! Oh wait, you both clicked the same can, now you're doing a tug of war between you while the other cans you can't pull in yet blink and fade away.
CCP says they're going to iterate on it, so hopefully they fix some of the issues. I'm not holding out that much hope though.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Julius Priscus
155
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:31:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:For those that think it's fine and fun, go try it in a wormhole.
Scan the container and it's all junk, so just 2 quick losses and move on? Nope, you get unlimited chances in a wormhole, so you have to finish each can to clear the site.
Oh, just read the name on the can? Nope, you're in a blinding white cloud with mini cans with white names floating by.
Good, you've got a friend! Oh wait, you both clicked the same can, now you're doing a tug of war between you while the other cans you can't pull in yet blink and fade away.
CCP says they're going to iterate on it, so hopefully they fix some of the issues. I'm not holding out that much hope though.
I wonder if the new looter whatsmacallit ccp is gonna release will be able to scoop up said loot? -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
367
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:42:00 -
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they should make stations destructible, and spew all loot everything in hangers + on market, that would be a fun spew |
Signal11th
DARKNESS.
1119
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:42:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Maybe if you had read and found that you weren't supposed to try and do them alone and taken a friend like was intended then you wouldn't be making whine threads on the forums.
The mechanic allows you to play solo if you choose, but it rewards you if you play in a group like intended.
Deal with your choices and move on whiner.
I'd agree if the loot expelled was remotely worth the hassle of getting a group together, I looked into it ran 30 sites and figured out I could make more solo in a quarter of them time doing other stuff.
Pointless mechanic seemingly introduced just to look like they are adding content.
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Sarah McKnobbo
Imperial Strippers
21
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:52:00 -
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I'm pretty sure i'm yet to miss any 'shiny' loot from a site. FInd site, scan cans, go for worthwhile targets, tractor cans that correspond to best loot. God forbid you have to actually have to do something to get the loot, rather than waiting for the hacking/analyzing fairy to decide you can open a can after just staring at the cirle going round the module. At least now the sites are different from any other combat site, unlike before where you may as well have just been doing a mission with a special module equipped.
Ah well, at least there's less competition for the sites |
ZeeWolf Novus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:57:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:they should make stations destructible, and spew all loot everything in hangers + on market, that would be a fun spew
My god..... the tears. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1077
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:02:00 -
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A Research Alt wrote:I just tried doing a relic site for the first time. I found the system core, cracked it open, and...wait why is all of my loot flying away and disappearing? What? What is this crap? How am I supposed to open these little cans while they fly away from me? Why aren't they appearing on my overview? Why are they flying away from me in the first place?
Seriously, CCP, loot spew is an unfun and stupid mechanic. What does it add? An irritating and difficult grab for all of the already-earned loot before it disappears in a few short seconds. That's it.
Hacking minigame: fun. Loot spew bullshit: not fun.
Get rid of loot spew. It's an unfun pain in the ass for no gain. The best you can do is not lose. The worst is lose everything. Hooray unnecessary penalty mechanics.
I seem to do fine. But then, I got in on the ground floor of the mechanic, and did my research like a good player.
Pretty sure the last time I missed something good from a can was when there were too many good drops to snag them all in the time limit.
So, in the event that you cannot figure out the trick to this mechanic, I would ask you to stop doing data and relic sites, and leave them for more competent players so the rewards are not wasted. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1637
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:09:00 -
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Elliavir wrote:Apparently someone at CCP uses an alternate definition of "fun" that I am unaware of.
probably this one One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Leafar Nightfall
Angels and Demons Inc. Mordus Angels
89
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:18:00 -
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ITT: people who are unable to google "loot spew container eve"
It isn't that hard to get all the valuable containers of a site 90% of the time if you know what you're going for. You don't even need to scan it if you don't want to, just go for parts and materials in both sites and voila
I don't know how people think that micromanaging the probes and then waiting for the loot for randomly appear at your cargo hold seemed more "realistic" or "sci-fiist" then what we have now...
Seraph Essael wrote:[quote=Katrina Oniseki] Not to mention, its sort of more realistic (I dunno if they were aiming for that), but if you have an airtight container and crack it open in a vacuum, the change in pressure would spew the loot everywhere, and at an alarmingly fast rate too.
And this, you can hate the spew but you can't deny that it has a good reason
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Spurty
986
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Posted - 2013.10.04 13:55:00 -
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Dear snowflake (op),
It has come to our attention that you are unhappy with the single player content in eve.
Looks like you got bored of spinning your ship and market warfare (solo content) and ventured out into the part of the game designed to make up the Massively Multiplayer Online content.
We the masses enjoyed your post about you having no desire to work in a team with another human being and therefore pretty much screamed at us "I'm a sociopath and I hate people!". As you figuratively waved a big stick at all potential friendships (nice work mocking the guy suggesting you make a friend. Could have turned out to be that guys worst day eve hanging with you) we tilt our heads 90 degrees to look at you and laugh at your situation.
May you do well writing up your posts on "why can't i RF this tower in my rifter?!?" And "what do you mean I need a cyno opened at the destination for my carrier to trave!?!" Threads. We wait with baited breath for your next post chock full of tears.
Until that precious moment, know that you aren't doing it right. It really is you and not the game.
Carry in screaming at humans that mistakenly come to your aid.
Regards, Space nerd spurty --- GòöGòùGòöGòÉGòªGòù GòæGòÜGòúGòæGòæGòÜGòù GòÜGòÉGò¬GòÉGò¬GòÉGò¥
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A Research Alt
Perkone Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:11:00 -
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Oh man, I should totally split the pitiful, sub-20M per hour loot that I get with another person. Yeah. That'd be great!
e: this is in nullsec, too, by the way. |
Karrl Tian
Ice Patrol
217
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:12:00 -
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If they did this for mining, the forums would drown in tears.
I really hope they do this for mining. |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
345
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:19:00 -
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A Research Alt wrote:Oh man, I should totally split the pitiful, sub-20M per hour loot that I get with another person. Yeah. That'd be great!
e: this is in nullsec, too, by the way.
Have you tried turning it off and on again? Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
A Research Alt
Perkone Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:21:00 -
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No, but I did adjust the brightness. |
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RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
309
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:25:00 -
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This is why I quit exploration loot spew is a joke. Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
Fa Xian
The Bene Gesserit Sanctuary Pact
19
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:25:00 -
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http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1309/Neural-Boost_minicontainer-loot-distribution.pdf
Bring a cargo scanner. |
A Research Alt
Perkone Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:37:00 -
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Fa Xian wrote:http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1309/Neural-Boost_minicontainer-loot-distribution.pdf
Bring a cargo scanner.
I have, and aside from the issue of loot spew, all of the data sites that I've scanned down--without exception--have been worth in their entirety (assuming you get every can) less than 10M.
Yeah, bring a friend, sure. Then we can both be poor together. |
Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
80
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:37:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Elliavir wrote:Apparently someone at CCP uses an alternate definition of "fun" that I am unaware of. probably this one
Yes!
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
528
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:45:00 -
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So, CCP said that if a player wants to grab all the loot from the site, then he needs to bring a friend. It sounded good. But in reality people are aiming for expensive stuff they scanned down with cargo scanners, and the rest turned out to be not really worth taking in comparision with that BPC or that bucket of materials. So now that little of value is usually lost, I really starting to see why people are questioning if this this mech is necessary at all.
...Or maybe I just don't understand the market rammifications of random c*** being left in space to decay. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16753
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:52:00 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:...Or maybe I just don't understand the market rammifications of random c*** being left in space to decay. The ramification is that people like the OP come along and try to squeeze every last bit out of the sites they find, thereby being insanely inefficient and losing out on the juicy income to people who know how to do it right.
This is as it should be.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
183
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Posted - 2013.10.04 15:00:00 -
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I haven't tried this new hacking system so I have to ask, will tractor beams work on the containers? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1078
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Posted - 2013.10.04 15:10:00 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:So, CCP said that if a player wants to grab all the loot from the site, then he needs to bring a friend. It sounded good. But in reality people are aiming for expensive stuff they scanned down with cargo scanners, and the rest turned out to be not really worth taking in comparision with that BPC or that bucket of materials... Or at all? So now that little of value is usually lost, I really starting to see why people are questioning if this this mech is necessary at all.
...Or maybe I just don't understand the market rammifications of random c*** being left in space to decay.
If everything had loot in it, it might make sense. But as it is, there is not often enough real loot for me to have missed something if I know what I am doing.
This means that adding a second player to the equation just halves your efficiency, thanks to the fact that someone thought it would be a great idea to have these literally worthless consolation prize drops in every can.
Here's a hint if anyone from CCP is listening. Those things aren't worth the time it takes to jetcan them. Those things, and those alone, ruin what otherwise might have been an interesting mechanic. Remove the consolation prize bullshit immediately. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1642
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Posted - 2013.10.04 15:26:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Barrogh Habalu wrote:So, CCP said that if a player wants to grab all the loot from the site, then he needs to bring a friend. It sounded good. But in reality people are aiming for expensive stuff they scanned down with cargo scanners, and the rest turned out to be not really worth taking in comparision with that BPC or that bucket of materials... Or at all? So now that little of value is usually lost, I really starting to see why people are questioning if this this mech is necessary at all.
...Or maybe I just don't understand the market rammifications of random c*** being left in space to decay. If everything had loot in it, it might make sense. But as it is, there is not often enough real loot for me to have missed something if I know what I am doing. This means that adding a second player to the equation just halves your efficiency, thanks to the fact that someone thought it would be a great idea to have these literally worthless consolation prize drops in every can. Here's a hint if anyone from CCP is listening. Those things aren't worth the time it takes to jetcan them. Those things, and those alone, ruin what otherwise might have been an interesting mechanic. Remove the consolation prize bullshit immediately.
wait, do you mean stuff like random trash (metal fragments, etc.), or actual "it's not entirely crap, so you should feel good about it".
Because if it's literally trash ... well, I actually don't see anything wrong with it. Sure, it sucks to not get something good every time ... but that's life -- and it makes getting that Shadow Serpentis Control Tower all the sweeter (granted, those have been out of circulation for ages ) One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
279
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Posted - 2013.10.04 15:32:00 -
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Where does one find the time to scan the things before their gone? |
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