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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
434
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:16:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We are unable to comprehend the difference between an announced, (probably) random ship lottery used to promote an official Eve event through a 3rd party and directly and secretly gifting ships to a favored group of players within the game, all further discussion of the matter is prohibited.
Good to get some closure, I know some of us got a bit angry over the mistakes that were made and doubted whether there was any point in continuing the farce that is CSM. Deep down we knew that in the end it would all be handled professionally and we could get on with the game that we love with lessons learnt.
Edit: Sorry for making a new thread but I couldn't find any open on the topic. If I agreed with you, then we'd both be wrong. |

Kate stark
500
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:20:00 -
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i'm going to laugh my bollocks off if it turns out those 30 scorpions were intended to be lottery gifts and blink "stole" them and kept them as personal gifts.
that's the only way it makes sense to redirect us to the two stickies. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
705
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:28:00 -
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"all further discussion of the matter is prohibited."
Silence, we kill you!
The Gaggings will continue, until moral improves!
We've altered the plan, pray we don't alter it further.
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ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
2084
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:29:00 -
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Miilla wrote:"all further discussion of the matter is prohibited."
Silence, we kill you!
The Gaggings will continue, until moral improves!
We've altered the plan, pray we don't alter it further.
Greed is good.
...no, wait, that's a legit CCP quote. My bad. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Sugar Von MurdererTits
D'reg The Methodical Alliance
75
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:33:00 -
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Link? |

Sorao Soreen
Section 496
12
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:37:00 -
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i will translate that statment. stop complaining or we will ban you..... strange how i hear it as "its my ball and iam going home so you cant play no more :P" |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
706
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:40:00 -
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Well, we know who NOT to vote for next CSM right?'
In fact, protest DON'T VOTE AT ALL. |

Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
79
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:45:00 -
[8] - Quote
First they came for the Guardian-Vexors and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Guardian-Vexor pilot.
Then they came for the monocles, and I didn't speak out because I didn't wear a monocle.
Then they came for the Scorpion Ishukone Watches and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Scorpion Ishukone Watch pilot.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.
|

Sorao Soreen
Section 496
12
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:46:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Well, we know who NOT to vote for next CSM right?'
In fact, protest DON'T VOTE AT ALL.
that did not work for the chumps in charge of the UK atm i did not vote and look what i got stuck with lolz |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16911
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:49:00 -
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Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Link? He's paraphrasing this. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Kate stark
505
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:50:00 -
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Sorao Soreen wrote:Miilla wrote:Well, we know who NOT to vote for next CSM right?'
In fact, protest DON'T VOTE AT ALL. that did not work for the chumps in charge of the UK atm i did not vote and look what i got stuck with lolz
yeah but the difference is, all 3 of them are bellends so even if you did vote you'd have still been stuck with a bellend. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Sugar Von MurdererTits
D'reg The Methodical Alliance
75
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:53:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Link? He's paraphrasing this.
Thanks. I did read it, but didn't interpret it the same way. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1747
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:55:00 -
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Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Baali Tekitsu
God Bless My Enemies
27
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:58:00 -
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The swagate. |

Bischopt
Arbitrary Repossession
212
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:59:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly?
It's a reference to Watergate. Google it. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1747
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:59:00 -
[16] - Quote
Baali Tekitsu wrote:The swagate.
Yoloswagate? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Baali Tekitsu
God Bless My Enemies
27
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:00:00 -
[17] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:The swagate. Yoloswagate?
#yoloswagate |

Kate stark
506
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:00:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly?
watergate political scandal in the 70s. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Druthlen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:00:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly?
It refers to watergate. Where water was leaking into hillary clintons panties and democrats were outraged. She was givin medicine and the leakage stopped.
Seriously google it. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1747
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:01:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? It's a reference to Watergate. Google it.
I know what it is. The Watergate scandal took place in the Watergate Hotel, a place that exists and has the word 'gate' already in it, making it relevant. The only thing I can think of that might make sense is suddenly, everyone wants to uncover some big scandal and they want their scandal to be just as big as Watergate, so they use 'gate' on the end to make it seem bigger than it is. It is most frequently used, I've noticed, when there is no scandal at all, like Climategate, or this rubbish. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
892
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:03:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly?
Learn history or repeat it. Eve is Real |

Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
550
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:03:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly?
Watergate Scandal This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
375
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:03:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? The gate that hits you on on the way out when they ban you from the forums |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1747
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:04:00 -
[24] - Quote
Cipher Jones wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? Learn history or repeat it.
Read my last post. I know what Watergate was. Learn not to assume. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Kate stark
506
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:05:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? Learn history or repeat it.
the only thing we learn from history, is that we don't learn from history ~ some guy on the internet. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Baali Tekitsu
God Bless My Enemies
26
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:05:00 -
[26] - Quote
Oh- oh two pages already, inb4 lock. |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
975
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:06:00 -
[27] - Quote
This is bad.... The Tears Must Flow |

Press TabQuick
Thunder Aerospace Incorporated
4
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:07:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are unable to comprehend the difference between an announced, (probably) random ship lottery used to promote an official Eve event through a 3rd party and directly and secretly gifting ships to a favored group of players within the game, all further discussion of the matter is prohibited. Good to get some closure, I know some of us got a bit angry over the mistakes that were made and doubted whether there was any point in continuing the farce that is CSM. Deep down we knew that in the end it would all be handled professionally and we could get on with the game that we love with lessons learnt. Edit: Sorry for making a new thread but I couldn't find any open on the topic.
Where was this comment posted? I need it for my subscription cancellation. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1749
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:09:00 -
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Press TabQuick wrote:IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are unable to comprehend the difference between an announced, (probably) random ship lottery used to promote an official Eve event through a 3rd party and directly and secretly gifting ships to a favored group of players within the game, all further discussion of the matter is prohibited. Good to get some closure, I know some of us got a bit angry over the mistakes that were made and doubted whether there was any point in continuing the farce that is CSM. Deep down we knew that in the end it would all be handled professionally and we could get on with the game that we love with lessons learnt. Edit: Sorry for making a new thread but I couldn't find any open on the topic. Where was this comment posted? I need it for my subscription cancellation.
Nowhere. The post referred to can only be interpreted this way by someone with tinfoil literally running through their veins. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Jimmy Farrere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:11:00 -
[30] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Bischopt wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? It's a reference to Watergate. Google it. I know what it is. The Watergate scandal took place in the Watergate Hotel, a place that exists and has the word 'gate' already in it, making it relevant. The only thing I can think of that might make sense is suddenly, everyone wants to uncover some big scandal and they want their scandal to be just as big as Watergate, so they use 'gate' on the end to make it seem bigger than it is. It is most frequently used, I've noticed, when there is no scandal at all, like Climategate, or this rubbish.
Okay, so you seem to know where the suffix 'gate' comes from. Now we just need to clear up your definition of 'scandal'..
scan-+dal (skndl) n. 1. A publicized incident that brings about disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of society: a drug scandal that forced the mayor's resignation. 2. A person, thing, or circumstance that causes or ought to cause disgrace or outrage: a politician whose dishonesty is a scandal; considered the housing shortage a scandal. 3. Damage to reputation or character caused by public disclosure of immoral or grossly improper behavior; disgrace. 4. Talk that is damaging to one's character; malicious gossip. |

Kate stark
506
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:11:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Press TabQuick wrote:IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are unable to comprehend the difference between an announced, (probably) random ship lottery used to promote an official Eve event through a 3rd party and directly and secretly gifting ships to a favored group of players within the game, all further discussion of the matter is prohibited. Good to get some closure, I know some of us got a bit angry over the mistakes that were made and doubted whether there was any point in continuing the farce that is CSM. Deep down we knew that in the end it would all be handled professionally and we could get on with the game that we love with lessons learnt. Edit: Sorry for making a new thread but I couldn't find any open on the topic. Where was this comment posted? I need it for my subscription cancellation. Nowhere. The post referred to can only be interpreted this way by someone with tinfoil literally running through their veins. i dunno, the fact that eterne told us to post in 2 completely unrelated topics does tell us that he can't comprehend the difference in issues being discussed. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Riyal
Fluffles Inc. xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
131
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:20:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Press TabQuick wrote:IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are unable to comprehend the difference between an announced, (probably) random ship lottery used to promote an official Eve event through a 3rd party and directly and secretly gifting ships to a favored group of players within the game, all further discussion of the matter is prohibited. Good to get some closure, I know some of us got a bit angry over the mistakes that were made and doubted whether there was any point in continuing the farce that is CSM. Deep down we knew that in the end it would all be handled professionally and we could get on with the game that we love with lessons learnt. Edit: Sorry for making a new thread but I couldn't find any open on the topic. Where was this comment posted? I need it for my subscription cancellation. Nowhere. The post referred to can only be interpreted this way by someone with tinfoil literally running through their veins. i dunno, the fact that eterne told us to post in 2 completely unrelated topics does tell us that he can't comprehend the difference in issues being discussed. or, he, like many other people simply didn't bother to read the thread before posting.
There is no need to be mean, I'm sure he is trying, not everyone is fortunate enough to be good at their job. |

Baali Tekitsu
God Bless My Enemies
28
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:23:00 -
[33] - Quote
Riyal wrote: There is no need to be mean, I'm sure he is trying, not everyone is fortunate enough to be good at their job.
Get banned son |

Kate stark
506
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:24:00 -
[34] - Quote
Riyal wrote:There is no need to be mean, I'm sure he is trying, not everyone is fortunate enough to be good at their job.
i'm not being mean. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Press TabQuick
Thunder Aerospace Incorporated
6
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:24:00 -
[35] - Quote
CCP must be run by idiots in a very disorganized manner. Imagine this:
You get a great job working on a project you love as an at-will employee. Your boss comes in and tells you to do the most insane thing possible that you think will sabotage your project. Do you tell your boss he is an idiot or do you go along with it knowing you'll lose your job if you say anything.
Seems like everyone in PR for CCP is an idiot or too at-will to say anything. To bad one department run by idiots has to ruin what is normally a pretty fun game (at times). |

Riyal
Fluffles Inc. xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
131
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:26:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Riyal wrote: There is no need to be mean, I'm sure he is trying, not everyone is fortunate enough to be good at their job.
Get banned son
I got 8 days left on this sub, I really don't care :) |

Azeroth Uluntil
e X i l e The Initiative.
7
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:32:00 -
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God. They give out what, 30 scorpions and people start bitching up a storm. Talk about pathetic.
Please, unsub. Get out of here. Or contribute to the community and have a chance at getting rewarded for the effort if you manage to do something major. Most of the people bitching have zero chance to get any reward for doing anything because they are too stupid to set anything decent up in the first place. |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
893
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:38:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? Learn history or repeat it. Read my last post. I know what Watergate was. Learn not to assume.
If you know what Watergate was then you know why they throw "gate" on the end of a word directed at a scandal FFS.
Eve is Real |

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
377
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:51:00 -
[39] - Quote
Azeroth Uluntil wrote:God. They give out what, 30 scorpions and people start bitching up a storm. Talk about pathetic.
Please, unsub. Get out of here. Or contribute to the community and have a chance at getting rewarded for the effort if you manage to do something major. Most of the people bitching have zero chance to get any reward for doing anything because they are too stupid to set anything decent up in the first place. Indeed, because its all about who gets the rewards from CCP now.. It used to be a spaceship game where the game content was how you earned stuff. I already unsubed btw. I only have one account, so no big deal, it will run out in January
I predict they continue with this stupidity and sooner or later even the slow ones will get it why it is a bad idea. I will see it in the news and soon after return to read the apologies, to amuse myself on the new promises about how awesome it will be from now on. And then I will resub because i'm stupid. or not! |

Azeroth Uluntil
e X i l e The Initiative.
8
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:15:00 -
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Karak Terrel wrote:Azeroth Uluntil wrote:God. They give out what, 30 scorpions and people start bitching up a storm. Talk about pathetic.
Please, unsub. Get out of here. Or contribute to the community and have a chance at getting rewarded for the effort if you manage to do something major. Most of the people bitching have zero chance to get any reward for doing anything because they are too stupid to set anything decent up in the first place. Indeed, because its all about who gets the rewards from CCP now.. It used to be a spaceship game where the game content was how you earned stuff. I already unsubed btw. I only have one account, so no big deal, it will run out in January I predict they continue with this stupidity and sooner or later even the slow ones will get it why it is a bad idea. I will see it in the news and soon after return to read the apologies, to amuse myself on the new promises about how awesome it will be from now on. And then I will resub because i'm stupid. or not!
Funny thing is, it still is. So a select few that have had an impact on the eve community get some random collectors ship, so what? I think the guys who make the fitting tools for the game should be rewarded in the same way. And Chribba, don't forget him.
I want to see a Chribba Issue Veldnaught. I hate miners but his contributions have been amazing. |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
2396
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:17:00 -
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CCP: You're not allowed to talk about CCP developers who directly spawn items for specific individuals in secret!
That is truly a worse response than anything I could have thought of |

Kate stark
523
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:20:00 -
[42] - Quote
i'm actually surprised that this hasn't been locked yet. discussing moderation, and all. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1754
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:22:00 -
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Jimmy Farrere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Bischopt wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? It's a reference to Watergate. Google it. I know what it is. The Watergate scandal took place in the Watergate Hotel, a place that exists and has the word 'gate' already in it, making it relevant. The only thing I can think of that might make sense is suddenly, everyone wants to uncover some big scandal and they want their scandal to be just as big as Watergate, so they use 'gate' on the end to make it seem bigger than it is. It is most frequently used, I've noticed, when there is no scandal at all, like Climategate, or this rubbish. Okay, so you seem to know where the suffix 'gate' comes from. Now we just need to clear up your definition of 'scandal'.. scan-+dal (skndl) n. 1. A publicized incident that brings about disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of society: a drug scandal that forced the mayor's resignation. 2. A person, thing, or circumstance that causes or ought to cause disgrace or outrage: a politician whose dishonesty is a scandal; considered the housing shortage a scandal. 3. Damage to reputation or character caused by public disclosure of immoral or grossly improper behavior; disgrace. 4. Talk that is damaging to one's character; malicious gossip.
Congratulations, you can read a dictionary. So far, nothing has caused any outrage. There is no outrage. There's a lot of overreacting and tantrum throwing, but no outrage. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
127
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:24:00 -
[44] - Quote
Wow, who would have funk!
The thread lead nowhere!
I am so surprised!
Really!
\O_O/
See?
|

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1754
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:25:00 -
[45] - Quote
Cipher Jones wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? Learn history or repeat it. Read my last post. I know what Watergate was. Learn not to assume. If you know what Watergate was then you know why they throw "gate" on the end of a word directed at a scandal FFS.
I can postulate, and if you'd read my last post on the first page before you jumped down my throat to 'learn history' you'd know what that postulation was. Fact is, there is no more point to throwing the word 'gate' into the name of every scandal that catches popular attention than there is adding the prefix 'Mc' to the beginning of every tasty burger. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Kate stark
526
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:26:00 -
[46] - Quote
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Wow, who would have funk!
The thread lead nowhere!
I am so surprised!
Really!
\O_O/
See?
it didn't lead to nowhere, it lead to two unrelated threads. did you not read CCP eterne's post? :D Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
380
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:28:00 -
[47] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:So far, nothing has caused any outrage. There is no outrage. There's a lot of overreacting and tantrum throwing, but no outrage. try harder plz |

Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
127
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:29:00 -
[48] - Quote
Kate stark wrote:it didn't lead to nowhere, it lead to two unrelated threads. did you not read CCP eterne's post? :D Hahahahahahahaha XD
One more time i'll point it out for the clueless masses:
They don't care. You either make it a *real* issue for them, or admit that you are clueless, whining, decadent, spoiled children who believe that bitching around, even collectively, is enough to get taken seriously. |

Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
37
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:34:00 -
[49] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Jimmy Farrere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Bischopt wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? It's a reference to Watergate. Google it. I know what it is. The Watergate scandal took place in the Watergate Hotel, a place that exists and has the word 'gate' already in it, making it relevant. The only thing I can think of that might make sense is suddenly, everyone wants to uncover some big scandal and they want their scandal to be just as big as Watergate, so they use 'gate' on the end to make it seem bigger than it is. It is most frequently used, I've noticed, when there is no scandal at all, like Climategate, or this rubbish. Okay, so you seem to know where the suffix 'gate' comes from. Now we just need to clear up your definition of 'scandal'.. scan-+dal (skndl) n. 1. A publicized incident that brings about disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of society: a drug scandal that forced the mayor's resignation. 2. A person, thing, or circumstance that causes or ought to cause disgrace or outrage: a politician whose dishonesty is a scandal; considered the housing shortage a scandal. 3. Damage to reputation or character caused by public disclosure of immoral or grossly improper behavior; disgrace. 4. Talk that is damaging to one's character; malicious gossip. Congratulations, you can read a dictionary. So far, nothing has caused any outrage. There is no outrage. There's a lot of overreacting and tantrum throwing, but no outrage.
|

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6090
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:34:00 -
[50] - Quote
Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Tippia wrote:Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Link? He's paraphrasing this. Thanks. I did read it, but didn't interpret it the same way. Well if you noticed he linked to two threads that dealt with an entirely different (but related subject), as noted in the OP of this thread. If Eterne had even read the title of my thread he would have realized it had to do with CCP rewarding SOMER Blink with the SIWs, not CCP handing them items to give away in their lottery. Commentary on the first subject is irrelevant to the threads that he linked, so it's essentially saying that we can't talk about it any more unless we make more threads about it (which is risky for reasons I don't think I have to expand upon here). EVE Online - A Rigged Game |

Kate stark
531
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:37:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Kate stark wrote:it didn't lead to nowhere, it lead to two unrelated threads. did you not read CCP eterne's post? :D Hahahahahahahaha XD One more time i'll point it out for the clueless masses: They don't care. You either make it a *real* issue for them, or admit that you are clueless, whining, decadent, spoiled children who believe that bitching around, even collectively, is enough to get taken seriously.
to care, they'd have to read the thread; which evidently didn't happen. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4709
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:37:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Tippia wrote:Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Link? He's paraphrasing this. Thanks. I did read it, but didn't interpret it the same way. Well if you noticed he linked to two threads that dealt with an entirely different (but related subject), as noted in the OP of this thread. If Eterne had even read the title of my thread he would have realized it had to do with CCP rewarding SOMER Blink with the SIWs, not CCP handing them items to give away in their lottery. Commentary on the first subject is irrelevant to the threads that he linked, so it's essentially saying that we can't talk about it any more unless we make more threads about it (which is risky for reasons I don't think I have to expand upon here). Well, to be fair, the thread in question was discussing the whole issue... not just the 30 IScorps. And the root of the issue is in the two threads linked. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Kate stark
531
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:39:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Tippia wrote:Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Link? He's paraphrasing this. Thanks. I did read it, but didn't interpret it the same way. Well if you noticed he linked to two threads that dealt with an entirely different (but related subject), as noted in the OP of this thread. If Eterne had even read the title of my thread he would have realized it had to do with CCP rewarding SOMER Blink with the SIWs, not CCP handing them items to give away in their lottery. Commentary on the first subject is irrelevant to the threads that he linked, so it's essentially saying that we can't talk about it any more unless we make more threads about it (which is risky for reasons I don't think I have to expand upon here). Well, to be fair, the thread in question was discussing the whole issue... not just the 30 IScorps. And the root of the issue is in the two threads linked.
no it wasn't, it was specifically discussing why secretly handing out assets to people with no set criteria is ******* dumb. aside from somer being the recipents of the bevolence, the two have nothing in common. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
127
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:41:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:to care, they'd have to read the thread; which evidently didn't happen. Wrong perspective, Mrs. Stark.
They don't need to care, because "you" don't give them reason to care, thus there is no real reason to read the thread in the first place.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6096
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:42:00 -
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No, it seems pretty clear to me that CCP had different reasons for the two giveaways. For the EVE Vegas event I'm sure CCP would have rather liked to do it themselves, but they didn't have any of the infrastructure to do such a thing themselves. Of course they overlooked some of the problems inherent in doing this (which is a separate issue entirely from the original prizes they chose for this event). Whereas for the SIW giveaway their intent was, as they stated, to reward them directly. EVE Online - A Rigged Game |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6096
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:45:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Kate stark wrote:to care, they'd have to read the thread; which evidently didn't happen. Wrong perspective, Mrs. Stark. They don't need to care, because "you" don't give them reason to care, thus there is no real reason to read the thread in the first place. Jesus christ, we get it already. There are several different levels of negotiation. While ultimately subscriptions are our only real bargaining chip as you keep reminding us (like we didn't already know), unsubscribing too quickly doesn't exactly tell CCP why we're unhappy and what they could do better. We're waiting to get comment from them before deploying the nuclear option, as it were. EVE Online - A Rigged Game |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1755
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:46:00 -
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Galen Darksmith wrote:
Believe it or not, you do not get to decide when someone else is outraged. That's pretty much up to them. Similarly, if enough people are outraged over an issue it constitutes a scandal, whether you think it should or not. Some people don't think that politician's philandering should generate enough outrage to create scandals. Suck it up, buttercup.
There is no outrage here, sorry. Even if you feel outrage, it's based on a misunderstanding at best, outright jealousy at worst. That doesn't constitute justified outrage in a rational man's book. I like how you specifically bolded the parts of the dictionary definition that suited how you feel about the situation, that agree with how you feel about the situation, instead of actually trying to rationally understand the situation.
Tell me, do you think evolution is a scandal? Because creationists certainly claim to feel 'outrage' over that as well.
Simplistic dictionary definitions are all well and good, but they rarely if ever cover all nuances of word usage in the English language, just the ones that are academically approved generalisations of the word.
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Kate stark
532
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:47:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Kate stark wrote:to care, they'd have to read the thread; which evidently didn't happen. Wrong perspective, Mrs. Stark. They don't need to care, because "you" don't give them reason to care, thus there is no real reason to read the thread in the first place. but all of my accounts are canceled? i cancel them the moment i have paid my subscription as i don't like having recurring subscriptions. so what do i do? :(
James Amril-Kesh wrote:No, it seems pretty clear to me that CCP had different reasons for the two giveaways. For the EVE Vegas event I'm sure CCP would have rather liked to do it themselves, but they didn't have any of the infrastructure to do such a thing themselves. Of course they overlooked some of the problems inherent in doing this (which is a separate issue entirely from the original prizes they chose for this event). Whereas for the SIW giveaway their intent was, as they stated, to reward them directly. didn't ccp run a thing a while ago where you just sent an eve mail to a CCP account with a guess of a time, or an isk value or something on it, and the first one they received that was the closest guess won something? or did i dream that? Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Little Chubby
Nipple Squad Beacon Light Alliance
2
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:50:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Here's what I wanna know....
Why is the word 'gate' thrown on the end of anything that might be considered a scandal? What gate was involved exactly? It's a reference to Watergate. Google it.
I think you mean Watergategate. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6096
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:52:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Kate stark wrote:to care, they'd have to read the thread; which evidently didn't happen. Wrong perspective, Mrs. Stark. They don't need to care, because "you" don't give them reason to care, thus there is no real reason to read the thread in the first place. but all of my accounts are canceled? i cancel them the moment i have paid my subscription as i don't like having recurring subscriptions. so what do i do? :( Haha yeah, I do that too. So idk, man.
Kate stark wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:No, it seems pretty clear to me that CCP had different reasons for the two giveaways. For the EVE Vegas event I'm sure CCP would have rather liked to do it themselves, but they didn't have any of the infrastructure to do such a thing themselves. Of course they overlooked some of the problems inherent in doing this (which is a separate issue entirely from the original prizes they chose for this event). Whereas for the SIW giveaway their intent was, as they stated, to reward them directly. didn't ccp run a thing a while ago where you just sent an eve mail to a CCP account with a guess of a time, or an isk value or something on it, and the first one they received that was the closest guess won something? or did i dream that? Oh yeah, that's right. It was that event where EVE was trying for a record Peak Concurrent Users, and you sent an evemail guessing what the magic number was going to be. I forgot what the winner was supposed to get, though. EVE Online - A Rigged Game |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3006
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:53:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:[
There is no outrage here, sorry. Even if you feel outrage, it's based on a misunderstanding at best, outright jealousy at worst. That doesn't constitute justified outrage in a rational man's book.
I think there are actually some rational people "outraged" over this.
I think it's mighty silly (CCP owns EVE, they can do as they please), but everyone has different buttons. Things that would push me to a screaming fit might bounce over some of these guys without a blink.
That being said, all the rabble rabble is useless, especially since the outrage is no where near universal. you can see here on GD that it's a virtual handful of people keeping these topics going. TBH, I think that's what drives some of them to be MORE outraged, the fact that many others of us are like "meh, it's just pixels".
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Kate stark
533
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:[snip] Haha yeah, I do that too. So idk, man.[snip] Oh yeah, that's right. It was that event where EVE was trying for a record Peak Concurrent Users, and you sent an evemail guessing what the magic number was going to be. I forgot what the winner was supposed to get, though.
aye, we could tell them we're not renewing!
and yes! that was it! i forgot what they were going to get too, but still they don't need blink to get things out to the community. hell, the monocles that dropped from the dev roam... that's another way of getting things to the community, all you needed was a noobship to scoop the loot. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Kate stark
533
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:56:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:You can see here on GD that it's a virtual handful of people keeping these topics going. TBH, I think that's what drives some of them to be MORE outraged, the fact that many others of us are like "meh, it's just pixels". just because only 5 people care that a local park is closing, doesn't stop stop the closing of a park being a bad thing. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1757
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:04:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:You can see here on GD that it's a virtual handful of people keeping these topics going. TBH, I think that's what drives some of them to be MORE outraged, the fact that many others of us are like "meh, it's just pixels". just because only 5 people care that a local park is closing, doesn't stop stop the closing of a park being a bad thing.
You're right, it's never about how many people want it, it's about the merits of what is being accomplished. If all things were decided based entirely on popular vote, we'd have never gone to space, amongst many other achievements of academic and technological advancement. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
710
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:17:00 -
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Incarna never went away you know :)
In the future they apparently call Water Closets.... Captains Quarders where you can try on hats. |

Jimmy Farrere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:18:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Jimmy Farrere wrote:Okay, so you seem to know where the suffix 'gate' comes from. Now we just need to clear up your definition of 'scandal'.. scan-+dal (skndl) n. 1. A publicized incident that brings about disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of society: a drug scandal that forced the mayor's resignation. 2. A person, thing, or circumstance that causes or ought to cause disgrace or outrage: a politician whose dishonesty is a scandal; considered the housing shortage a scandal. 3. Damage to reputation or character caused by public disclosure of immoral or grossly improper behavior; disgrace. 4. Talk that is damaging to one's character; malicious gossip. Congratulations, you can read a dictionary. So far, nothing has caused any outrage. There is no outrage. There's a lot of overreacting and tantrum throwing, but no outrage.
Yes, while I can read and comprehend a dictionary. You apparently cannot..
outGÇórage (-êa-èt re+¬d-Æ)
n., v. -raged, -ragGÇóing. n. 1. an act of wanton cruelty or violence. 2. anything that strongly offends or affronts the feelings. 3. a powerful feeling of resentment or anger aroused by an injury, insult, or injustice.
Whilst you may not have any of these feelings, I think that the 74 page thread would indicate that many others do. It's good that you keep posting in the threads about something you don't care about though, it really shows how much you don't care. Heh. |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
710
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:19:00 -
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This is so Comedic that it should have been a Blackadder script with some Baldrik one liners.
I have a cunning plan.... Baldrick. We shall totally screw up the game, and the company,... and people will pay just to see what idiotic move we make next. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1757
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:23:00 -
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Jimmy Farrere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Jimmy Farrere wrote:Okay, so you seem to know where the suffix 'gate' comes from. Now we just need to clear up your definition of 'scandal'.. scan-+dal (skndl) n. 1. A publicized incident that brings about disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of society: a drug scandal that forced the mayor's resignation. 2. A person, thing, or circumstance that causes or ought to cause disgrace or outrage: a politician whose dishonesty is a scandal; considered the housing shortage a scandal. 3. Damage to reputation or character caused by public disclosure of immoral or grossly improper behavior; disgrace. 4. Talk that is damaging to one's character; malicious gossip. Congratulations, you can read a dictionary. So far, nothing has caused any outrage. There is no outrage. There's a lot of overreacting and tantrum throwing, but no outrage. Yes, while I can read and comprehend a dictionary. You apparently cannot.. outGÇórage (-êa-èt re+¬d-Æ) n., v. -raged, -ragGÇóing. n. 1. an act of wanton cruelty or violence. 2. anything that strongly offends or affronts the feelings. 3. a powerful feeling of resentment or anger aroused by an injury, insult, or injustice. Whilst you may not have any of these feelings, I think that the 74 page thread would indicate that many others do. It's good that you keep posting in the threads about something you don't care about though, it really shows how much you don't care. Heh.
Interesting how you bolded injustice. Please, post the dictionary definition for that as well, just for posterity's sake, and explain how it applies to a community contributor being rewarded for their efforts. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

YesYes NoNoNo
Karmic Rebalance
5
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:33:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:CCP: You're not allowed to talk about CCP developers who directly spawn items for specific individuals in secret!
That is truly a worse response than anything I could have thought of
I was just thinking the same thing. It would probably have been better to just continue ignoring the issue in the hopes that it would go away! |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
713
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:36:00 -
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CCP PR: Quick!!! Put some fuel on the fire... somebody post a public reply demanding we all stfu. |

Frying Doom
2576
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:58:00 -
[71] - Quote
Good to see this game is progressing so well
CCP don't have a clue
The CSM doesn't have a clue.
After all why would people get angry over CCP secretly giving ships that can be sold for hundreds of billions of isk to a select few of their choice.
Yet another Fail, brought to you by CCP. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Jimmy Farrere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:00:00 -
[72] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Interesting how you bolded injustice. Please, post the dictionary definition for that as well, just for posterity's sake, and explain how it applies to a community contributor being rewarded for their efforts.
injustice [+¬n-êd-Æ-îst+¬s] n 1. the condition or practice of being unjust or unfair 2. an unjust act
Sure, we'll get down to the nitty-gritty on this then.
Is it fair to all Eve players that one ingame entity is selected arbitrarily to be secretly gifted ~600 billion isk worth of ships?
You could perhaps argue that this was a just reward for the effort they have put into the game. But in order to be 'fair' surely others who have put in equal amounts of effort and given the community great tools and services should be rewarded in the same way.
Would it be 'fair' if this isk injection was given to a group you were currently at war with? Would it be fair if this advantage was gifted to hisec gankers because they're very good at what they do? How about they gift a few Titans to The Mittani for providing content for 30,000 accounts as the head of the CFC, not to mention all the good work he's doing with his website?
For many, Eve is a competitive game so yes, gifting one entity an advantage just because a dev 'likes what they've done' is unjust and unfair.
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Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
1759
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:10:00 -
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Jimmy Farrere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Interesting how you bolded injustice. Please, post the dictionary definition for that as well, just for posterity's sake, and explain how it applies to a community contributor being rewarded for their efforts.
injustice [+¬n-êd-Æ-îst+¬s] n 1. the condition or practice of being unjust or unfair 2. an unjust act Sure, we'll get down to the nitty-gritty on this then. Is it fair to all Eve players that one ingame entity is selected arbitrarily to be secretly gifted ~600 billion isk worth of ships? You could perhaps argue that this was a just reward for the effort they have put into the game. But in order to be 'fair' surely others who have put in equal amounts of effort and given the community great tools and services should be rewarded in the same way. Would it be 'fair' if this isk injection was given to a group you were currently at war with? Would it be fair if this advantage was gifted to hisec gankers because they're very good at what they do? How about they gift a few Titans to The Mittani for providing content for 30,000 accounts as the head of the CFC, not to mention all the good work he's doing with his website? For many, Eve is a competitive game so yes, gifting one entity an advantage just because a dev 'likes what they've done' is unjust and unfair.
The argument isn't the effort they've put into the game, it's the contribution they've made to the community. That's the bottom line. I'm no more a fan of opacity and secret dealing than anyone else, but the secrecy of it aside, I am man enough to accept that even if I was at war with a corp that had made as massive a contribution to the community as Somer has, and they were given gifts of ships for their efforts, I would not consider it unreasonable. Seriously, it's just more shinies for me to blow up.
On the other hand, who said EVE was fair? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
638

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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:10:00 -
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Quote: 11. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a petition under the Community & Forums Category.
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Forum users are strictly prohibited from impersonating any other party on the EVE Online forums. This includes but is not limited to ISD volunteers, CCP employees, CCP partners and other forum users. This also includes suggesting that an employee of CCP or an ISD volunteer will perform a task for you.
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Putting words in the mouth of CCP employees is not permitted. Thread locked and forwarded to the community team for review. ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:20:00 -
[75] - Quote
Quote:CCP Eterne wrote: We are unable to comprehend the difference between an announced, (probably) random ship lottery used to promote an official Eve event through a 3rd party and directly and secretly gifting ships to a favored group of players within the game, all further discussion of the matter is prohibited.
This is so full of so much FAIL and ARROGANCE it's as if the entire Incarna apology was nothing more than Hilmer whacking off in our collective faces.
What CCP fails to comprehend is real integrity in these matters does count. CCP obviously lacked integrity in the manner in which they decided to handle this entire incident. CCP do you remember Wrangler? Where is your integrity today?
The arrogance to think that they can control the players thoughts via the ban hammer for "prohibited" topics being discussed openly in a transparent manner is just sickening.
This smacks of EA style of handling things. Oh that's right they recently hired some EA people and gave them power...well here we go.
Absolutely disgusting. |
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