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La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1102
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:12:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:one more "i don't log in because CCP does not provide CONTENT in this sandbox multiplayer game"!
btw: your stuff?
No this is just a symptom of highsec still remaining ~too good~ compared to other areas and receiving too much focus.
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CMD Ishikawa
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:18:00 -
[62] - Quote
Love your tears... kind of lame... still... love your tears... hehehe
Don't worry keep out of the game, if something happens we'll let you know...  |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
390
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:52:00 -
[63] - Quote
'Only boring people are bored in EVE. Undock and do something. The only losing move is not to play.'
Not today spaghetti. |
Digits Kho
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Get Off My Lawn
3
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Posted - 2013.10.10 14:22:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Decian Cor wrote:No expert on EvE here, as I JUST started and moved to Low. But maybe this would help?
Art of War has an interesting chapter on deceit and ruses. Perhaps an agressing alliance could attack multiple structures at different ends of (as well as sectors inside of) the Sovereign territory, forcing the defender to divide his attention and resources. Then you could slowly chip away as he is scurrying to-and-fro, until his turf is small enough to confront outright.
Invasions 101?
Perhaps you could reduce the timer instead of getting rid of it. Half it, or reduce it to somewhere between 2-6 hours? Just for a little experimentation, and to see how things go? It would definitely aid the aforementioned strategy.
There's one issue here. Lets say you have a 5000 man alliance and they want to take some space from CFC. CFC has something like 24k. Your 5,000 man alliance attacks 4 points, goons attack 20... you might take one, CFC will take 5. Or they'll just squish you at your 4 points.
Good evening sir,
I would like to inform you that todays CFC wasnt always this big and infact at one point there was no such thing as CFC. Also id like to mention that even the heart of the CFC - Goons, also at one point were very small and had nothing . Now the difference between you / your corp / alliance/ ur mum , dad and Goons / CFC is that they ( goons / cfc) worked their way from 0 to being THE unstoppable war machine of the game as of now, while you so far are only unstoppable in your forum whining about 0.0. Another words CFC is better at sandbox than you.
In your case the only thing you can do now is Deal With It
Or as an alternative you can contact our rental officers about joining our renter program and alliance
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Karrl Tian
Ice Patrol
218
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Posted - 2013.10.10 14:39:00 -
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Blobs fighting in nullsec are not the only thing EVE gets noticed for outside the game.
No such thing as bad publicity.  |
Decian Cor
The Tall Order
Angeli Mortis
1
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Posted - 2013.10.10 15:08:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:[quote=Decian Cor]Art of War doesn't support attacking bigger forces with smaller.
You must have never read The Art of War. Otherwise you would know that Sun Tzu is of the opinion that numbers guarantee nothing. If you are going to try to shoot down an idea that an honest newbie makes, at least be accurate when doing so.
"There is no good and evil. There is only power, and those too weak to seek it." |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
Situation: Normal
1597
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Posted - 2013.10.10 15:35:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:
I'm not complaining.
Yes you are. It is all you have done in 4 pages.
Leigh Akiga wrote:I'm trying to have a general discussion about the state of the game. I stated my opinion and others put theirs forth. Its called a discussion.
No you aren't. If you were you would put forth at least one idea for change. All you have done is complain about what's wrong. |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
232
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Posted - 2013.10.10 15:37:00 -
[68] - Quote
So I havent really seen any responses where 0.0 sov guys are happy with the state of things except for the one Fcon guy, is anyone else thoroughly pleased by useless space/regions and very little incentives to go to war? |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
232
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Posted - 2013.10.10 15:39:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:No you aren't. If you were you would put forth at least one idea for change. All you have done is complain about what's wrong.
One idea for change is increased value from holding regions. Right now the only value is in renting them out on a grand scale. Concentrating value in smaller areas creates conflict as well like Technetium did.
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1102
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Posted - 2013.10.10 15:39:00 -
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^: Nerfing highsec would make nullsec more valuble.
Leigh Akiga wrote:So I havent really seen any responses where 0.0 sov guys are happy with the state of things except for the one Fcon guy, is anyone else thoroughly pleased by useless space/regions and very little incentives to go to war?
No.
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March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
798
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Posted - 2013.10.10 15:55:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:March rabbit wrote:one more "i don't log in because CCP does not provide CONTENT in this sandbox multiplayer game"!
btw: your stuff? No this is just a symptom of highsec still remaining ~too good~ compared to other areas and receiving too much focus.
and we back to "i don't log in because CCP does not provide CONTENT in this sandbox multiplayer game"! |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1103
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Posted - 2013.10.10 16:16:00 -
[72] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:La Nariz wrote:March rabbit wrote:one more "i don't log in because CCP does not provide CONTENT in this sandbox multiplayer game"!
btw: your stuff? No this is just a symptom of highsec still remaining ~too good~ compared to other areas and receiving too much focus. and we back to "i don't log in because CCP does not provide CONTENT in this sandbox multiplayer game"!
No its not that, we provide our own content. I had a long detailed post thought up but, in dealing with someone deliberately stupid like yourself I'm going to put this here and you can figure it out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbs_free_energy
That applies socially to EVE tell us how and where the problem is.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
Self Sabatoge
1381
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Posted - 2013.10.10 16:33:00 -
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If only CCP was listening to us, things would be better. If only there was a device that I could use to suck resources from someone else's pos. If only there was a structure I could use to automatically pull wrecks to me. If only I could deploy a temporary structure in enemy space to refit my ships. If only warp times would change so that my small ship could warp around faster than these huge fleets. If only a ship was designed that was immune to bubbles....
If only....
Maybe then the game would be fun again. Oh well.
edit* I almost forgot... "grr goons"
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Digits Kho
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Get Off My Lawn
5
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Posted - 2013.10.10 18:09:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:No you aren't. If you were you would put forth at least one idea for change. All you have done is complain about what's wrong. One idea for change is increased value from holding regions. Right now the only value is in renting them out on a grand scale. Concentrating value in smaller areas creates conflict as well like Technetium did.
So making current powerblocs more rich will solve the issue? |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
232
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Posted - 2013.10.10 18:48:00 -
[75] - Quote
Digits Kho wrote:Leigh Akiga wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:No you aren't. If you were you would put forth at least one idea for change. All you have done is complain about what's wrong. One idea for change is increased value from holding regions. Right now the only value is in renting them out on a grand scale. Concentrating value in smaller areas creates conflict as well like Technetium did. So making current powerblocs more rich will solve the issue?
No. Making the current power blocs fight each other and other folks to want the space would solve the issue  |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
1270
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Posted - 2013.10.10 18:50:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:So I'm imagining things, that article is waay off and making 0.0 safer with yurts and mobile cyno jammers and letting people steal your already terrible alliance income is a good thing? Who makes these development decisions??
Why would it be safer?
Why can't you get a couple friends and set defensive bubbles for your cyno?
Why can't you light the cyno when the system is clear?
Why do you get the feeling you can't make your fleet travel a couple jumps before hitting the system target?
Why don't you pop a covert cyno and drop a bazillion of bombers to protect your regular cyno?
There are still tons of options, if something this module will actually help making things a bit more interesting.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
232
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Posted - 2013.10.10 18:54:00 -
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Its like this: why was Fountain invaded and fought over for 2 months? Value was added there and removed from somewhere else.
Why was Tribute invaded? There was value there and animosity between parties.
Why was Venal moons fought over for years? There was value there.
Why did people viciously guard their 10/10 before the Great Sanctum Nerf? There was value there.
The common thread in all these things is value and desire for riches. There hasnt been any value added to 0.0 in recent years and nothing but take-aways.
Thats why massive coalitions are formed to gather and secure massive amounts of space because you need more and more of the same old crap thats been decreasing in value to sustain quality of life. |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
196
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:15:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:
Sure plenty of people roam and have goodfights all day long, the content I'm talking about is the moving and shaking in the article. More opinions please.
Ummmmm . . . you don't want "goodfights all day long?"
You're seriously going to need to define "moving and shaking" with respect to how you feel, and then explain why that's somehow different than what's already going on. That'll be necessary for further discussion.
Otherwise, I have to assume that what you're asking for is more structure shooting, and holy cow, that's terrible.
I am not an alt of Chribba. |
YesYes NoNoNo
Karmic Rebalance
9
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:18:00 -
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Niec Mogul wrote:You could always log in and make "something" happen.
Relevant... |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
12072
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Posted - 2013.10.11 07:55:00 -
[80] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Decian Cor wrote:No expert on EvE here, as I JUST started and moved to Low. But maybe this would help?
Art of War has an interesting chapter on deceit and ruses. Perhaps an agressing alliance could attack multiple structures at different ends of (as well as sectors inside of) the Sovereign territory, forcing the defender to divide his attention and resources. Then you could slowly chip away as he is scurrying to-and-fro, until his turf is small enough to confront outright.
Invasions 101?
Perhaps you could reduce the timer instead of getting rid of it. Half it, or reduce it to somewhere between 2-6 hours? Just for a little experimentation, and to see how things go? It would definitely aid the aforementioned strategy.
There's one issue here. Lets say you have a 5000 man alliance and they want to take some space from CFC. CFC has something like 24k. Your 5,000 man alliance attacks 4 points, goons attack 20... you might take one, CFC will take 5. Or they'll just squish you at your 4 points.
There is no possible sov system that will let a small alliance successfully fight alone vs a large, well run alliance.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
12074
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:00:00 -
[81] - Quote
YesYes NoNoNo wrote:Niec Mogul wrote:You could always log in and make "something" happen. Relevant...
Also relevent: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=278745&find=unread
1 Kings 12:11
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Time and all Eternity
HumAnnoyeD
69
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:48:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:
Yet more shilling of mitten's ad farm.
Adblock man . . . just adblock.
Honor is a fools prize.
Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! |
Tao Dolcino
Radio Silence Inc.
231
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:55:00 -
[83] - Quote
Maybe should you leave your corporation/alliance and join a small dynamic and active one which has a good and solid project, maybe in wormspace ?
Favoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
Self Sabatoge
1406
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:01:00 -
[84] - Quote
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
Yet more shilling of mitten's ad farm.
Adblock man . . . just adblock.
When Mittens puts up ads to pay for servers he is being greedy. When Somer is given trillions of isk worth of items out of thin air, it is because their gambling site is good for the community.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
497
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:47:00 -
[85] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Decian Cor wrote:No expert on EvE here, as I JUST started and moved to Low. But maybe this would help?
Art of War has an interesting chapter on deceit and ruses. Perhaps an agressing alliance could attack multiple structures at different ends of (as well as sectors inside of) the Sovereign territory, forcing the defender to divide his attention and resources. Then you could slowly chip away as he is scurrying to-and-fro, until his turf is small enough to confront outright.
Invasions 101?
Perhaps you could reduce the timer instead of getting rid of it. Half it, or reduce it to somewhere between 2-6 hours? Just for a little experimentation, and to see how things go? It would definitely aid the aforementioned strategy.
There's one issue here. Lets say you have a 5000 man alliance and they want to take some space from CFC. CFC has something like 24k. Your 5,000 man alliance attacks 4 points, goons attack 20... you might take one, CFC will take 5. Or they'll just squish you at your 4 points. There is no possible sov system that will let a small alliance successfully fight alone vs a large, well run alliance.
There are some things that could be done to make things less imbalanced however.
Putting the onus on players to police their assets rather than automated emails. Making it more expensive to have lots of capital ships sitting around. Making holding space more expensive. The ability for small corps alliances to damage bigger ones without having to turn up at an allotted time, reducing the range of bridges and increasing fuel costs so its EXPENSIVE to use caps.... lots of things could be done. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
163
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:20:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Everytime I login I run across awesome content being created. Just in the last 2 days since coming back from a vacation, I have facilitated 2 amazing bonus rounds where lucky clients put it all on the line to win big. For those that were not there, at least one of those may be posted on www.minerbumping.com within the next few days. When I'm not doubling isk, you can find me undocked ganking illegal miners or wandering through nullsec in one of my trusty 100m+ bombers. When not in space shooting at things or docked doubling isk, you can often find me donating isk and giving guidance to brand new players. If things are so boring for you, I have an idea. Start up another account if you don't have one already and go infiltrate one of your main alliance's enemies. Relieve them of assets and ships in space. I hear Northern Associates renter corps are always recruiting. Have fun!
Erotica does indeed create fun content and i enjoy the games she makes as do many others.
James 315 has created a huge mass of high sec content for many people and i enjoy hanging out with them.
I am a member of a small incursion community that i do a few hours a week.
i am enjoying my manufacturing and trading alt although i am still nervously glancing at invention and T2 stuff.
I enjoy doing exploration and wormhole diving a few hours a week.
I do PVP most evenings with my corp and alliance mates (btw OP this alliance was indeed created yesterday and we are all null sec players).
I am running a free ship/skill book giveaway for new players with no strings (they get a channel they can ask for advice. a mail with career suggestions and a few mill of stuff). They aren't asked to join the corp and indeed we aren't set up to cope with such young players. It is nice greeting these eve players of the future though and maybe 1 or 2 will end up joiing us.
With all this i know i am experiencing only a fraction of what the game has to offer. I am only in a few of the many communities meeting only a few of the content creators. It is already more than i have time for. Look up from your nullsec wars. Make a new char and explore other communites and playstyles.
Also i never seem to have to travel more than a few jumps to find PVP from solo to medium fleets.
Having fun in a sandbox as many have said is your job or you need to find new friends who will help you have fun (you don't have to ditch your old friends either). |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
4164
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:50:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this?
You know there was a story a couple of weeks ago about a guy who went out for a solo roam in a frigate and ended up earning a supercarrier kill? That only happened because he decided "screw being bored, I'm going to do something." I've had a quick look, I can't find the story, so I can't provide the facts but the story is the important part: someone went and did something, and as a result stuff happened.
Don't sit on your arse waiting for other people to start doing stuff that you can follow. Take the black dog by the horns and do something, even if it seems stupid. Go for a solo roam in a disposable frigate and clone. Keep in touch with intel channels. Tell people what's going on in the area, and maybe you'll help make something happen!
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
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