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Tibur Dallocort
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.12 16:17:00 -
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I've only been playing EVE for a couple of days and I've been enjoying it immensely. In the past, I had always flirted with the concept of integrating myself into the universe of EVE, but very often found several obstacles in my path. What has changed? Well, the most obvious change is age. IGÇÖm no longer 10 years old GÇô IGÇÖm 20. Also, I have become far more patient than I ever was GÇô instead of craving non-stop action; I appreciate slowing down and being able to visually consume my surroundings. EVE is absolutely gorgeous and I continue to discover wondrously breathtaking scenery, which causes me to stop and stare. Despite the fact that I am far more patient, it doesnGÇÖt mean that I am obsessed with the pacifist aspects of EVE. I adore action and the opportunities for conquest. To think that I could be part of a large community, continuously striving towards achieving objectives, is a deliciously enticing prospect. The only problem is GÇô where do I begin? IGÇÖve only ever had one problem when trying to integrate myself into a new universe GÇô I simply didnGÇÖt know how to achieve my own personal goals. This got me thinking about what my own personal goals were with EVE. After intensively deliberating what that may be, IGÇÖve come up with two points, which I would like advising with, and the final point is a personal point to myself.
GÇóI want to be part of a community. GÇóI want my character to be geared towards the fundamentals of combat within EVE. GÇóI want to be able to have sufficient knowledge about EVE to be able to aid those who one day may feel lost within the EVE universe.
If you can make any suggestions, thank you GÇô if you canGÇÖt and youGÇÖre as lost as I am, then I hope this post generates the answer youGÇÖre looking for.
Fly safely.
Kindest regards, Tibur Dallocort
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voetius
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
95
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Posted - 2013.10.12 17:02:00 -
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One possibility is Eve University, they are a teaching organisation but you don't have to join if you don't want to as most (all?) of their teaching materials, previous pod casts etc is availiable on their wiki.
They have their own chat channel under the Help tab in the chat channel listing. You can get more information about them if you click the Evelopedia link above and search "Eve University" (strangely enough )
There are some organisations that might appeal to you, a few that you could look up,
OUCH, Open University of Celestial Hardship (PvP training corp, no minimum entry requirements afaik)
Eve Uni, as said above
Reddit / Dreddit
Agony Unleashed do PvP training classes
Brave Newbies, new player oriented corp but has older players as well
RvB, Red vs Blue, the friendy face of PvP, based in high sec, probably not so much organised around helping new players but others may chime in to correct me on that. Chat channel R-V-B
The New Order - people will have highly polarised views on them and I'm not sure how new player friendly they are but they are a community of sorts.
I'm sure there are others as well. |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1050
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Posted - 2013.10.12 17:09:00 -
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As voetius mentioned EVE uni and RVB are both places you might want to look into.
He is also correct that RVB is not really a teaching group, but there are still a lot of people there who are more then willing to help out and give advice when you need it (just remember its not their job, they do it because they want too ).
Also heard great things about Agony's training classes, and the ISK requirement is not to high (think its 20 mill for a class?).
If you are looking for a more permanent corp i would suggest that you read over this guide which will help you figure out where to look, what to look for and what to avoid.
Good luck and have fun Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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J'Poll
Second Battlegroup Nerfed Alliance Go Away
2388
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Posted - 2013.10.12 17:13:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:As voetius mentioned EVE uni and RVB are both places you might want to look into. He is also correct that RVB is not really a teaching group, but there are still a lot of people there who are more then willing to help out and give advice when you need it (just remember its not their job, they do it because they want too ). Also heard great things about Agony's training classes, and the ISK requirement is not to high (think its 20 mill for a class?). If you are looking for a more permanent corp i would suggest that you read over this guide which will help you figure out where to look, what to look for and what to avoid. Good luck and have fun
To add to this.
Agony classes are great and Somer Blink has a special sponsorship with Agony to pay for the new players who cant afford the 20mil the Basic class costs. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3402
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Posted - 2013.10.12 17:57:00 -
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To add to the above (in a more general sense);
- be flexible and take things in stride. There will always be a situation you never prepare for... a foe that you didn't expect... a module you forgot... a ship senselessly lost... etc. etc.
- your ship is a tool that is good for some tasks but not for others. Don't coddle it. Everything in the game can be replaced by another just like it... provided you have the money (Rule #1 of EVE: "Don't fly it if you can't afford it").
- if you want to try something... do it. Don't wait for your skills to "catch up." Don't wait for back-up. Hell... outside of having some extra ISK in your pocket, don't prepare too much. When you get stuck and/or find yourself in a smoking wreck remember what you could have done better and prepare better next time.
- attaching yourself to more experienced players that are more PvP-oriented can lead to a great many things. They have the experience and knowledge you desire and can teach you the various nuances of the mechanics that few others can. However, most "good" PvP-groups are a bit elitist. You have to "fit in" to their little social group and show yourself to be their kind of "cool kid." And even if you do get in there are usually a plethora of "hazing" rituals you must endure (refer to first point).
- if you don't understand something... ask. Start a private conversation with strangers, hostiles, and friendlies alike. You'll often find them to be very helpful and sometimes offer up connections or pointers that can assist you. For example: a Newbie randomly private convo'd my friend and asked "how did you get your Orca (see: "a big ship") in and out of low security space without getting killed???? I get blown up every time I go in!!" Eventually the conversation led PvP and warfare in general and my friend forwarded the guy to me. I'm about to get back to him and see if he/she wants some 1 on 1 lessons. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2555
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Posted - 2013.10.12 18:05:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote: And even if you do get in there are usually a plethora of "hazing" rituals you must endure (refer to first point).
They made me stop requiring newbies to 1v1 my Rifter as an initiation ceremony.
Good stuff in this thread. Regarding joining a newbie-friendly corp, you should remember that there are smaller organizations around as well, which result in a more personalized experience and feeling more "vital". It's not all E-Uni and RvB. Not to toot my own horn at all.
I should add another point that is a pet peeve of mine: Do not rush into big ships! I can't count how many month-old pilots in battlecruisers or battleships I have killed with ease despite the odds being against me. It's both a matter of not using your ship to the fullest due to missing skills, and a matter of not using it properly due to lack of practical experience (and likely a sub-optimal fitting for the purpose). Stick to smaller, more inexpensive ships, so you can learn by doing. You still have the fun of shooting things, but without the wallet-blistering cost.
Good luck! Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3402
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Posted - 2013.10.12 18:20:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:ShahFluffers wrote: And even if you do get in there are usually a plethora of "hazing" rituals you must endure (refer to first point). They made me stop requiring newbies to 1v1 my Rifter as an initiation ceremony. ........ it's okay man... we had to stop throwing newbies into wormholes and seeing how long they last.
Petrus Blackshell wrote:I should add another point that is a pet peeve of mine: Do not rush into big ships! I can't count how many month-old pilots in battlecruisers or battleships I have killed with ease despite the odds being against me. ^^ This. ^^
I know it's against the rules to post killmails, but I feel they illustrates this point perfectly.
Thorax and Rifter versus my Incursus.
Basically I nuked the Rifter in less than 15 seconds and proceeded to chew down the Thorax over 2 to 3 minutes.
It wasn't a bad concept for a PvP-duo... they just fitted and executed it poorly (which is experience you gain at the frigate level). Had both guys been in frigates or one of them used a destroyer their odds of victory would have been significantly higher. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Espenson
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.10.14 10:54:00 -
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If you're feeling particularly brazen you might want to try a tactic I initially used with my main.
Fly into a particularly violent losec area and roam for a while. Pick the first fight you can, the more experienced to opponent the better. Convo the victor after your inevitable loss and ask for tips. You will very quickly find yourself getting invited to a training corp.
This is a good way to discover those smaller groups and will probably count towards a 'hazing' ritual. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
919
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:40:00 -
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learning how combat works against other players i'll just mirror what Petrus said
stick to frigates, at a push cruisers as you go up in ship class your outlay increases, and your effectiveness against smaller targets decreases
yes your dps numbers will look tiny ~90 to 150 for a tech 1 frigate but that number is pretty much your actual effective dps in almost all circumstances
always expect to die, in a fire. cherish those fleeting victories, but don't expect them all the time. |
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