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ositogrande
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Posted - 2006.01.28 04:25:00 -
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i've been to the ship database but i need to know where i can find a list of ships that can be sorted by price and/or ability to cargo, mine, even fight, etc. Am amarr and a noob miner (2 week).....basically I have a ship now...whe do i go from here to improve effciency in mining in safe space, etc? I have a Maller, Tormentor and a Sigil but what is the next step up that I can aim for? Thks Osi
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.01.28 04:51:00 -
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Next steup up would either be 1 of 3 choices. 1. Osprey(the caldari mining cruiser. It mines as well as a small barge with cruiser level 4 or 5 trained, but would require you to train up caldari skills a bit)
2. Apocalypse(amarr tier 2 battleship. Will require about a 1-2 weeks of training to get into, and will cost 100-120mill, but can mine as well as 1 1/2 small barges, and can tank well)
3. Medium Barge(will take a lot of training but mines as well as 2 small barges, and is cheaper than the Apocalypse besides having a much larger cargo bay)
Hope this helps.
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Tyrantus
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Posted - 2006.01.28 05:17:00 -
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Prophecy.. I run 6 Miner II and have the assault launcher and 5 light drones for rat protection.. And it outmines a Retriever.. Good buy as you can also pvp and pve in it.. Can't do that in a barge.. :-)
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ositogrande
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Posted - 2006.01.28 05:20:00 -
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It does help lots. I do have some Caldari skills so Oswprey loosk liek teh frist opton for me. I lack 1 or 2 skills for Apocalypse but cant afford it yet. cheers Osi Minor Amarr
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.01.28 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Spartan III on 28/01/2006 17:05:47
Originally by: Tyrantus Prophecy.. I run 6 Miner II and have the assault launcher and 5 light drones for rat protection.. And it outmines a Retriever.. Good buy as you can also pvp and pve in it.. Can't do that in a barge.. :-)
Err no a prophecy will NEVER outmine a retriever unless some uber gang module comes out that gives you 120% more to mining yield.
A prophecy can mine the same as an osprey as the prophecy can use 6 miner IIs while the osprey uses 3 plus its got the 20% mining yeild per cruiser level allowing each of its miners to work like 2 at cruiser level 5. Now one opsrey with cruiser 5 and 3 miner IIs mines just barely more than the Procurer(small barge). A Procurer can use 1 strip miner while the retriever can use 2 so the retriever has double the mining power of a procurer. And since a prophecy or osprey mines just over that of a procurer the retriever mines just under TWICE what a prophecy or osprey can mine.
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Erodmos
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Posted - 2006.01.28 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan III Edited by: Spartan III on 28/01/2006 17:05:47 Err no a prophecy will NEVER outmine a retriever unless some uber gang module comes out that gives you 120% more to mining yield.
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So, there is no non-barge ship that can outmine a medium barge.
Sorry that is wrong. From skill side I assumeing 5 / astrogeo 4 / barge 3 to compare.
The base yeeld with thsi skills and strip miner 1 / mining laser 2 for a med barge is 588 m3/min, for a prophecy its 540 m3/min.
Now you can fit mining upgrade modules, that make 588 x 1.05 = 617.4 m3/min for the med barge with one module (more would not fit)
For a prophecy i dont know how many mining upgrade modules you can fit on it, but i guess 3 should be *****ble. that make 640 x 1.05 x 1.05 x 1.05 = 625.1 m3/min and outmines the med barge.
On a megathron i can get 4 mining upgrades to fit. that make 7 laser x 90 m3/min with skill x 1.05^4 = 765.8 m3/min.
Now you can add some gang skill and modules and mining implants if you want, but that would possible add more m3 for eny variations of mining lasers/ships.
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dorannl
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Posted - 2006.01.28 17:45:00 -
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There is a way to outmine a medium barge. I mine 940 m3 with my mega per minute thats more than a medium barge.
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Valea Silpha
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Posted - 2006.01.28 17:47:00 -
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Indeed. Almost all the BSes mine more than a med barge, especially the ever-beloved miner-apoc or a domi with mining drones.
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Kajira Kaia
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Posted - 2006.01.28 18:19:00 -
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Frigate ~< SM Barge < Cruiser ~< MD Barge < BS ~< LG Barge.
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