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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:35:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:
Seem unable or unwilling to operate independently and even on sites that are easily soloable they'll run them with minimum 2 or more.
Not my fault they're scared to spread out and need to compete for sites.
That is because we have to be available to make sure we HAVE the space. If all you do is rat "independently" you and/or your corp are not going to be in an alliance very long.
I'm quite capable of ninja rating wherever I choose, I also choose to stay close to staging because stuff needs to get done and "phat loots" doesn't rep your jump bridge POSs. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
556
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:42:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Seem unable or unwilling to operate independently and even on sites that are easily soloable they'll run them with minimum 2 or more.
Not my fault they're scared to spread out and need to compete for sites.
That is because we have to be available to make sure we HAVE the space. If all you do is rat "independently" you and/or your corp are not going to be in an alliance very long. I'm quite capable of ninja rating wherever I choose, I also choose to stay close to staging because stuff needs to get done and "phat loots" doesn't rep your jump bridge POSs. Isn't that self defeating. You cant use your space because you need to be available to HAVE the space. What's the point of having it if you cant use it? |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:45:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Seem unable or unwilling to operate independently and even on sites that are easily soloable they'll run them with minimum 2 or more.
Not my fault they're scared to spread out and need to compete for sites.
That is because we have to be available to make sure we HAVE the space. If all you do is rat "independently" you and/or your corp are not going to be in an alliance very long. I'm quite capable of ninja rating wherever I choose, I also choose to stay close to staging because stuff needs to get done and "phat loots" doesn't rep your jump bridge POSs. Isn't that self defeating. You cant use your space because you need to be available to HAVE the space. What's the point of having it if you cant use it?
Fights.
I hate bearing, there are 20 things I would rather be doing. Ratting, Pos stuff, logistics....all annoy me, I'd.rather be shooting at someone. |
Zappity
Kurved Space
546
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:48:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Seem unable or unwilling to operate independently and even on sites that are easily soloable they'll run them with minimum 2 or more.
Not my fault they're scared to spread out and need to compete for sites.
That is because we have to be available to make sure we HAVE the space. If all you do is rat "independently" you and/or your corp are not going to be in an alliance very long. I'm quite capable of ninja rating wherever I choose, I also choose to stay close to staging because stuff needs to get done and "phat loots" doesn't rep your jump bridge POSs. Isn't that self defeating. You cant use your space because you need to be available to HAVE the space. What's the point of having it if you cant use it? Fights. I hate bearing, there are 20 things I would rather be doing. Ratting, Pos stuff, logistics....all annoy me, I'd.rather be shooting at someone.
So come to lowsec. What's the point of null empires if the infrastructure just annoys you? If all you want is fights they are available without the bollocks. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:51:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Seem unable or unwilling to operate independently and even on sites that are easily soloable they'll run them with minimum 2 or more.
Not my fault they're scared to spread out and need to compete for sites.
That is because we have to be available to make sure we HAVE the space. If all you do is rat "independently" you and/or your corp are not going to be in an alliance very long. I'm quite capable of ninja rating wherever I choose, I also choose to stay close to staging because stuff needs to get done and "phat loots" doesn't rep your jump bridge POSs. Isn't that self defeating. You cant use your space because you need to be available to HAVE the space. What's the point of having it if you cant use it? Fights. I hate bearing, there are 20 things I would rather be doing. Ratting, Pos stuff, logistics....all annoy me, I'd.rather be shooting at someone. So come to lowsec. What's the point of null empires if the infrastructure just annoys you? If all you want is fights they are available without the bollocks.
I lived in low sec for a long time. It's boring. You spend tons of time looking for fights, little time fighting them.
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Charles Panzram
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:55:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Seem unable or unwilling to operate independently and even on sites that are easily soloable they'll run them with minimum 2 or more.
Not my fault they're scared to spread out and need to compete for sites.
That is because we have to be available to make sure we HAVE the space. If all you do is rat "independently" you and/or your corp are not going to be in an alliance very long. I'm quite capable of ninja rating wherever I choose, I also choose to stay close to staging because stuff needs to get done and "phat loots" doesn't rep your jump bridge POSs.
So you are basically saying that you loiter around most of the day and are just too lazy to move around to find something. Just because there could be something to rep? Or because you need to have sufficient numbers to blob a 10 men roaming gang with 200 dudes?
Last time I checked FA does next to nothing independently of their Goon overlords and at the moment there isn-¦t much going on in form of a big war so whats preventing you from plexing yourself, ah right downright lazyness.
So how many pos's do you have to rep on a regular basis? How many bridges? How many call to arms are given?
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Amber Kurvora
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
27
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:02:00 -
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The rage is still on going? Got to love the Eve forums. It's the only place I know where everyone else is wrong, except for the person stating their opinion. Raaaargh! ;) |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:02:00 -
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Charles Panzram wrote:Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Seem unable or unwilling to operate independently and even on sites that are easily soloable they'll run them with minimum 2 or more.
Not my fault they're scared to spread out and need to compete for sites.
That is because we have to be available to make sure we HAVE the space. If all you do is rat "independently" you and/or your corp are not going to be in an alliance very long. I'm quite capable of ninja rating wherever I choose, I also choose to stay close to staging because stuff needs to get done and "phat loots" doesn't rep your jump bridge POSs. So you are basically saying that you loiter around most of the day and are just too lazy to move around to find something. Just because there could be something to rep? Or because you need to have sufficient numbers to blob a 10 men roaming gang with 200 dudes? Last time I checked FA does next to nothing independently of their Goon overlords and at the moment there isn-¦t much going on in form of a big war so whats preventing you from plexing yourself, ah right downright lazyness. So how many pos's do you have to rep on a regular basis? How many bridges? How many call to arms are given?
I'm hardly loitering, and there aren't many 10 man gangs in my neck of the woods, we have about 5 alliances that live in our npc pocket that make nuisances of themselves.
Between roams, defense fleets, and drops I can be fleeted up 75% of the time peacetime.....on war footing you can't keep up.
We don't CTA, but on average there are 3-4 posted ops p ee day plus whatever comes up in the middle. |
Prince Kobol
1048
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:05:00 -
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Charles Panzram wrote:Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Seem unable or unwilling to operate independently and even on sites that are easily soloable they'll run them with minimum 2 or more.
Not my fault they're scared to spread out and need to compete for sites.
That is because we have to be available to make sure we HAVE the space. If all you do is rat "independently" you and/or your corp are not going to be in an alliance very long. I'm quite capable of ninja rating wherever I choose, I also choose to stay close to staging because stuff needs to get done and "phat loots" doesn't rep your jump bridge POSs. So you are basically saying that you loiter around most of the day and are just too lazy to move around to find something. Just because there could be something to rep? Or because you need to have sufficient numbers to blob a 10 men roaming gang with 200 dudes? Last time I checked FA does next to nothing independently of their Goon overlords and at the moment there isn-¦t much going on in form of a big war so whats preventing you from plexing yourself, ah right downright lazyness. So how many pos's do you have to rep on a regular basis? How many bridges? How many call to arms are given?
Well they do like to lose Titans and the odd CSAA on occasion so its not like they are doing nothing :) |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:08:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Charles Panzram wrote:Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Seem unable or unwilling to operate independently and even on sites that are easily soloable they'll run them with minimum 2 or more.
Not my fault they're scared to spread out and need to compete for sites.
That is because we have to be available to make sure we HAVE the space. If all you do is rat "independently" you and/or your corp are not going to be in an alliance very long. I'm quite capable of ninja rating wherever I choose, I also choose to stay close to staging because stuff needs to get done and "phat loots" doesn't rep your jump bridge POSs. So you are basically saying that you loiter around most of the day and are just too lazy to move around to find something. Just because there could be something to rep? Or because you need to have sufficient numbers to blob a 10 men roaming gang with 200 dudes? Last time I checked FA does next to nothing independently of their Goon overlords and at the moment there isn-¦t much going on in form of a big war so whats preventing you from plexing yourself, ah right downright lazyness. So how many pos's do you have to rep on a regular basis? How many bridges? How many call to arms are given? Well they do like to lose Titans and the odd CSAA on occasion so its not like they are doing nothing :)
More CSAAs than Titans of late......And there are a couple JB pos that have a few billion in stront into them at this point. |
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baltec1
Bat Country
8288
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:10:00 -
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So why do complexes and compare them to level 4 missions when its null anoms that are on par with level 4 missions?
There is also the issue of there not being enough complexes to go around, rank and file do anoms. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1330
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:14:00 -
[252] - Quote
If there is enough plexes for ninjas, there is enough plexes for sov holders. If diplomacy doesn't allow these plexes to be fully utilized, that's poor management. |
Prince Kobol
1048
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:18:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Charles Panzram wrote:Onictus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Seem unable or unwilling to operate independently and even on sites that are easily soloable they'll run them with minimum 2 or more.
Not my fault they're scared to spread out and need to compete for sites.
That is because we have to be available to make sure we HAVE the space. If all you do is rat "independently" you and/or your corp are not going to be in an alliance very long. I'm quite capable of ninja rating wherever I choose, I also choose to stay close to staging because stuff needs to get done and "phat loots" doesn't rep your jump bridge POSs. So you are basically saying that you loiter around most of the day and are just too lazy to move around to find something. Just because there could be something to rep? Or because you need to have sufficient numbers to blob a 10 men roaming gang with 200 dudes? Last time I checked FA does next to nothing independently of their Goon overlords and at the moment there isn-¦t much going on in form of a big war so whats preventing you from plexing yourself, ah right downright lazyness. So how many pos's do you have to rep on a regular basis? How many bridges? How many call to arms are given? Well they do like to lose Titans and the odd CSAA on occasion so its not like they are doing nothing :) More CSAAs than Titans of late......And there are a couple JB pos that have a few billion in stront into them at this point.
I apologise for that comment... was a pretty low shot truth be told |
Prince Kobol
1048
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:22:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:If there is enough plexes for ninjas, there is enough plexes for sov holders. If diplomacy doesn't allow these plexes to be fully utilized, that's poor management.
???
Pretty confused by that statement.
Just because a few people can ninja a plex doesn't mean that there are hundreds of them just sitting there waiting to be run.
Maybe your getting confused between plexs and anons, not sure. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
556
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:22:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:So why do complexes and compare them to level 4 missions when its null anoms that are on par with level 4 missions?
There is also the issue of there not being enough complexes to go around, rank and file do anoms. Combat sites are the actual equivalent of missions. Mission gates, multiple rooms, mission specific goals. They just don't require an agent usually (escalations are the agent version) you just don't have to visit the agent to get the escalation.
Regular anoms are a lazy way of creating extra belts in system. They're the equivalent of ratting.
The primary difference between combat sites and high sec / low sec missions is the majority of the content (rats)in combat sites can be skipped or bypassed while in missions you usually have to kill every single npc to continue.
They're L4 Missions Light, with better bounties per tick and a faction spawn or two, or 3, multiple elite module drops + big sack of gold (Overseer Effects) at the end just in case you didn't make enough :)
Like WoW instances sort of in space. Craziness. I'll be stopping running them soon, getting bored of them but I'll be back with my ISBoxed SB gang... |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:27:00 -
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No there aren't, 10 guys can clear all of the combat sites out of a region pretty quickly.
Anoms are unlimited. |
baltec1
Bat Country
8288
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:32:00 -
[257] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:baltec1 wrote:So why do complexes and compare them to level 4 missions when its null anoms that are on par with level 4 missions?
There is also the issue of there not being enough complexes to go around, rank and file do anoms. Combat sites are the actual equivalent of missions. Mission gates, multiple rooms, mission specific goals. They just don't require an agent usually (escalations are the agent version) you just don't have to visit the agent to get the escalation. Regular anoms are a lazy way of creating extra belts in system. They're the equivalent of ratting. The primary difference between combat sites and high sec / low sec missions is the majority of the content (rats)in combat sites can be skipped or bypassed while in missions you usually have to kill every single npc to continue. They're L4 Missions Light, with better bounties per tick and a faction spawn or two, or 3, multiple elite module drops + big sack of gold (Overseer Effects) at the end just in case you didn't make enough :) Like WoW instances sort of in space. Craziness. I'll be stopping running them soon, getting bored of them but I'll be back with my ISBoxed SB gang...
No, complex are a rare, you cannot have thousands of players doing them at the same time.
Anoms are null secs equivalent of of level 4 missions and the staple diet of the vast majority. Its these you should be comparing. |
Prince Kobol
1048
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:baltec1 wrote:So why do complexes and compare them to level 4 missions when its null anoms that are on par with level 4 missions?
There is also the issue of there not being enough complexes to go around, rank and file do anoms. Combat sites are the actual equivalent of missions. Mission gates, multiple rooms, mission specific goals. They just don't require an agent usually (escalations are the agent version) you just don't have to visit the agent to get the escalation. Regular anoms are a lazy way of creating extra belts in system. They're the equivalent of ratting. The primary difference between combat sites and high sec / low sec missions is the majority of the content (rats)in combat sites can be skipped or bypassed while in missions you usually have to kill every single npc to continue. They're L4 Missions Light, with better bounties per tick and a faction spawn or two, or 3, multiple elite module drops + big sack of gold (Overseer Effects) at the end just in case you didn't make enough :) Like WoW instances sort of in space. Craziness. I'll be stopping running them soon, getting bored of them but I'll be back with my ISBoxed SB gang... No, complex are a rare, you cannot have thousands of players doing them at the same time. Anoms are null secs equivalent of of level 4 missions and the staple diet of the vast majority. Its these you should be comparing.
Exactly..
If you compare anons with L4 Missions personally L4 Missions win every time.
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March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
807
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:33:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:March rabbit wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:That the mechanic is broken. Fix it. 1) which mechanic is broken? 2) why do you think it is broken? If you speak about wardecs i see your point. But comparison with bounties is just wrong. Again, my comparison was to the intent behind bounties and wardecs, insofar as both of them can be applied for any reason (or no reason), and cost money to do so. But you can brush off a wardec with what? 12 clicks? Whereas a bounty will actually stick to you, and is a better example of a well implemented mechanic. yea, sure.
However you still ignore fact that bounty doesn't give you killrights when wardec does.
- Yes, bounty sticks to you. And what? Unless this is really big bounty you simply don't care. That's why almost 99% of players had big red sign "WANTED" with bounty like 100.000 ISK month after we got new bounty system. - We still have no bounty hunters. - Bounty mostly produce tears of new players. Once new player learns more about this system he just starts to ignore bounty
And you say this mechanic is "well implemented"???
Again: i agree that wardec system is broken. But this system is as broken as any other system we have in Eve (does anyone know any "well implemented" system in this game???). And simply using bounty system as example for wardec system won't work. They ARE different. And bounty system is broken too. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
556
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:35:00 -
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Onictus wrote:No there aren't, 10 guys can clear all of the combat sites out of a region pretty quickly.
Anoms are unlimited. Why aren't you guys running them. That pic I posted today looting the Maze was in a dead end next to what appears to be an abandoned system with a fully functional station. 2 jumps from that system and next to another apparantly abandoned station system is another dead end system, it had 7 sigs in it today, 5 of them combat sites, 2 military operations (C-Type / DG's) sigs, 3 fortresses.
2 systems down from that was another abandoned station system with a Pith Penal and some fortresses, Penals drop Pithum Adaptives 1.5 billion modules... there's combat sigs all over the place :)
I did all those, after my 800 mill drop I got jack though, one of those bad runs, just a few hundred mill in OE and a couple of crap pith hardners. |
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:39:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Onictus wrote:No there aren't, 10 guys can clear all of the combat sites out of a region pretty quickly.
Anoms are unlimited. Why aren't you guys running them. That pic I posted today looting the Maze was in a dead end next to what appears to be an abandoned system with a fully functional station. 2 jumps from that system and next to another apparantly abandoned station system is another dead end system, it had 7 sigs in it today, 5 of them combat sites, 2 military operations (C-Type / DG's) sigs, 3 fortresses. 2 systems down from that was another abandoned station system with a Pith Penal and some fortresses, Penals drop Pithum Adaptives 1.5 billion modules... there's combat sigs all over the place :) I did all those, after my 800 mill drop I got jack though, one of those bad runs, just a few hundred mill in OE and a couple of crap pith hardners.
Maybe because no one lives in Fade/Pure Blind, I it's three carrier jumps out more for most of the CFC to get to Fade, personally I have other things to do at home.
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Zappity
Kurved Space
546
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:41:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Zappity wrote:Onictus wrote:Fights.
I hate bearing, there are 20 things I would rather be doing. Ratting, Pos stuff, logistics....all annoy me, I'd.rather be shooting at someone. So come to lowsec. What's the point of null empires if the infrastructure just annoys you? If all you want is fights they are available without the bollocks. I lived in low sec for a long time. It's boring. You spend tons of time looking for fights, little time fighting them.
I've got to admit that's true for anything larger than a cruiser. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
baltec1
Bat Country
8288
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:43:00 -
[263] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote: Why aren't you guys running them
Its not reliable income. One week you can have them all to yourself then for the next six months everyone and their mother is doing them and you cant find any. Anoms is what most of us do as they offer level 4 income isk and can support a much greater population. However at this point you can be earning just as much from level 4s in near perfect safety so you might as well be there. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:49:00 -
[264] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Why aren't you guys running them
Its not reliable income. One week you can have them all to yourself then for the next six months everyone and their mother is doing them and you cant find any. Anoms is what most of us do as they offer level 4 income isk and can support a much greater population. However at this point you can be earning just as much from level 4s in near perfect safety so you might as well be there.
Exactly what I've been saying all along. |
Artemis Ellery Sazas
Shock and Awe Inc.
11
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:54:00 -
[265] - Quote
I totally agree with this. I have read the forums and the players complaining about high sec L4's being an isk faucet compared to null sec, NOT!!!
I have spent the last 2 months alone in null, working deep in Goon space within a five system radius running plexes. I only have a t2 loki with no bling and it's so easy and the isk is totally awesome. Most days I don't see a soul in local. It's just empty system after empty system with a ton of scannable sites and anoms to run when the better sites run out. Most days I can't even finish all the complexes due to limited playing time.
Working with no friends in null is tough, but is very doable. I have paid for my cheap loki fit many, many times over and no one has ever tried to lock me. It does take a little time to find a niche place to call home, but the rewards are well worth it. Just remember, everyone is an enemy.
For those of you that talk about sov bills, endless politics, alliance ops, etc... maybe it's possible that your power block has become too bloated? Maybe there would be less headaches for you and more free time to do what you want, if you controlled a smaller space? Just saying..... |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:06:00 -
[266] - Quote
Artemis Ellery Sazas wrote:I totally agree with this. I have read the forums and the players complaining about high sec L4's being an isk faucet compared to null sec, NOT!!! I have spent the last 2 months alone in null, working deep in Goon space within a five system radius running plexes. I only have a t2 loki with no bling and it's so easy and the isk is totally awesome. Most days I don't see a soul in local. It's just empty system after empty system with a ton of scannable sites and anoms to run when the better sites run out. Most days I can't even finish all the complexes due to limited playing time. Working with no friends in null is tough, but is very doable. I have paid for my cheap loki fit many, many times over and no one has ever tried to lock me. It does take a little time to find a niche place to call home, but the rewards are well worth it. Just remember, everyone is an enemy. For those of you that talk about sov bills, endless politics, alliance ops, etc... maybe it's possible that your power block has become too bloated? Maybe there would be less headaches for you and more free time to do what you want, if you controlled a smaller space? Just saying.....
Yeah you may notice that it's powerblock or NPC s space, take your pick.
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Grey Stormshadow
Fistful of Finns Bearf0rce One
1611
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:15:00 -
[267] - Quote
Dunno...
The freighter ganking around high sec trade hubs seems to be quite lucrative. They are much more cautious in null/low .)
Get |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Pirate Nation.
123
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:38:00 -
[268] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I was expecting a tinfoil comment.
You delivered.
Seriously though, you have a major persecution complex going here. Guess what. What you just posted, is another attack mode. I'm starting to think you all work from the same list. I'm a highly experienced forum moderator and troll since the mid 1990s. There's a pattern to just about everything, even the attacks. When you start seeing patterns where not exist, It just means you are developing a Beautiful mind lol. Does EVE have a public mental health channel? Between this and other people posting about how losing in game assets are causing them real life issues, I'm thinking it might be time for one........ Gaslighting is another known tactic. Nice try. Claims of dissenters having mental issues is a known old Soviet tactic. You need a better playbook.
That was just beautiful, and so true! If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space,-áand those people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local,-álight a cyno and try jumping to it.-á-á There is a structural issue with Eve, based on accounts with no link, vast reserves of ISK-áand plex, which makes it too easy to metagame the destruction of small alliances. |
Aesheera
Blacklight Recon Strictly Unprofessional
452
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:14:00 -
[269] - Quote
Chopper Rollins wrote:Blablabla
Hey dude face it, some enjoy making ISK in their own way. Somehow, magically, I still get to do all the things I enjoy as much as I want while making my earnings the spaceship way.
Keep dumping your dollars into pixel land. If you think that's a wise investment for your IRL Isk's, do your thing. I personally think it's stupid :D
Primary since '07. GÖÑ
If it bleeds, kill it - II Support this man's tool! |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3066
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:28:00 -
[270] - Quote
Artemis Ellery Sazas wrote:I totally agree with this. I have read the forums and the players complaining about high sec L4's being an isk faucet compared to null sec, NOT!!! I have spent the last 2 months alone in null, working deep in Goon space within a five system radius running plexes. I only have a t2 loki with no bling and it's so easy and the isk is totally awesome. Most days I don't see a soul in local. It's just empty system after empty system with a ton of scannable sites and anoms to run when the better sites run out. Most days I can't even finish all the complexes due to limited playing time. Working with no friends in null is tough, but is very doable. I have paid for my cheap loki fit many, many times over and no one has ever tried to lock me. It does take a little time to find a niche place to call home, but the rewards are well worth it. Just remember, everyone is an enemy. For those of you that talk about sov bills, endless politics, alliance ops, etc... maybe it's possible that your power block has become too bloated? Maybe there would be less headaches for you and more free time to do what you want, if you controlled a smaller space? Just saying.....
I wonder why people liek this keep missing the point when we talk about the isk coming into the economy.
No one I've ever seen has said that missions are exactly the same isk you can make null sec.
What has been said is that missions and other high sec isk making is too good for the near zero amount of risk involved, which is why many people who live in null sec have isk making alts in empire rather than having those alts risking ships making isk in null which would be better overall for the game because it would provide m ore opportunistic for players to get ships blown up (which in turn benefits everyone, starting with the high sec ship builders and LP sellers).
I fly a Machariel (sometimes dual boxed with a Dominix for faster farming) in null sec and the isk is ok. But I can take that same Machariel to Empire where I don't even have to getting killed (because i'm not wardeced or flying a blinged out ship) and run missions and make 60 to 70% as much isk (or do high sec incursions and make the same or more average isk per hour without the supreme headache of having to move loot to empire to sell) without any chance of interruption.
At the end of the day, it just makes more sense to isk up in empire. The only reason I'm doing so in null is because missions are boring and I like the trill of getting escalations and doing null plexes. But most folks aren't like me and HATE doing the things you have to do to make isk, so they do so safely in empire even if it takes a bit longer.
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