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DNSBLACK
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Posted - 2013.10.16 20:40:00 -
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1. I am looking for a 3rd party wholesale GTC seller.
2. I would like to discuss the terms on splitting your percentage with me to raffle off some of in game assets.
3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over.
4. 1 Black credit for the raffle will be given out for every GTC bought on your site. You can hold the raffle once 1000 GTC have been sold. If players would like to buy a ticket in game it will cost 1 plex and you can have them contract it to you.
5. This practice has been ok and does not break the EULA according to CCP.
I am doing this to re-capture some of my money I have spent on EVE over the last 7 years and look for another game to play. This is not a joke and CCP has left me no choice. I suggest that everyone of you look to sell your stuff in this manner before CCP cracks down.
So if you are a third party seller of GTC please send me a eve mail with your percentage offer let the bidding begin. |
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Posted - 2013.10.16 20:46:00 -
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wow I have 2 offer all ready sent to me. |
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Posted - 2013.10.16 21:03:00 -
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I just have to transfer the character according to CCP character transfer rules. Unless those have changed and they have cause CCP is not following there own EULA  |
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Posted - 2013.10.16 21:29:00 -
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I am hoping CCP does point out my flaws. |
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:51:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:ngaly wrote:IGÇÖm really hoping more people will do what you are doing. If enough people do it CCP will be forced to acknowledge that they actually tolerated RMT for more than a year already. Eventually they will have to start preventing lottery websites from using this GÇ£trickGÇ¥. The thing is CCP gets a direct cut from this type of RMT, and so it's "ok." For those that don't understand, here's the actual transaction:(A) Vendor acquires GTC's in bulk from CCP at a reduced rate --> CCP gets $$ (B) Players Purchase 1000 GTC's from Vendor at a markup --> Vendor gets $$ (C) Individual offers character for raffle from vendor --> Individual gets a cut of Vendor's $$ (D) Players acquire GTC's (E) Players also get a chance to win individual's character. (A) --> (B) --> (D) is the standard GTC retail process, and has been available for over a decade (I think). Item (C) is where the RMT happens when 'Individual' gets paid by vendor in $$ for in game assets (the definition of RMT). Item (E) is the incentive for Item (C) to work.
TBH I could see this working for players wanting to make real $$ off high value items such as supers, titans, and various unique ships.
Still don't get it do you I guess reading the EULA was just to long of a read. |
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:55:00 -
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Dalmont Delantee wrote:DNSBLACK wrote:1. I am looking for a 3rd party wholesale GTC seller.
2. I would like to discuss the terms on splitting your profit with me to raffle off some of my in game assets.
3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle once all my assets are gone. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over.
4. 1 Black credit for the raffle will be given out for every GTC bought on your site. You can hold the raffle once 1000 GTC have been sold. If players would like to buy a ticket in game it will cost 1 plex and you can have them contract it to you.
5. This practice has been ok'd and does not break the EULA according to CCP.
I am doing this to re-capture some of my money I have spent on EVE over the last 7 years and look for another game to play. This is not a joke and CCP has left me no choice. I suggest that everyone of you look to sell your stuff in this manner before CCP cracks down.
So if you are a third party seller of GTC please send me a eve mail with your percentage offer let the bidding begin. Simpler way biomass - you wont' be missed
Not weather I will be missed but I will make some money and if this works out well I have other I will sell |
DNSBLACK
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Posted - 2013.10.16 23:00:00 -
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Holy shut the front door.
I may not even need a third Party.
1. I will buy GTC at full price and resell them with a 2 dollar mark up and a 1 Black credit.
2. After I sell 1000 GTC I will hold my own drawing and since CCP has no over site and I am 100 % creditable this will be fine
3. I am still willing to go the GTC seller route but this will also work. |
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Posted - 2013.10.16 23:36:00 -
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Achmed Abdullah Ayarash wrote:The main flaw with your reasoning is that you assume that you know how thoroughly (or not) the site that you are (without mentioning by name) comparing your scheme with has been and are being audited by CCP and you also assume that what has been deemed OK in one specific case under circumstances we are not 100% aware of, will automatically be deemed OK in any other case where the circumstances are somewhat similar at least on the surface.
I'm not saying you're outright wrong, but you are definately not presenting a scenario that is certain to be a 100% match to the (unknown to most) chriteria that said site has met in order to get CCP approval for their methods of financing their website.
Well guess what there has never been any critira like that posted or published. All I have to go off of is past practice.
Is DNSBlack Trusted ---- CCP answer YES
Is DNSBlack good to follow thru with his commitment to give the winner his Character ------ CCP answer we are no sure but we trust him. So lets let him do it and see if he follows thru
Will we make money off of GTC sales ----- CCP answer hell yes so who give a phuuuck if we look the other way on the eula for DNSBlack he has done a lot for the community. he got rid of alex for us didn't he????!!!!!! |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:28:00 -
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Sar Carstic wrote:Adm AnnAlingus wrote:When I win him from this lottery, I know what I will be doing to him. Over and over again. I am choosing to believe that you mean raffling.
lottery, raffle who cares I am trusted by CCP I could call it this
DNSBlack is thinking about commiting eve suicide. CCP thru there words and actions on this site are cyber bulling me into killing off my character. Please go and by a GTC from the GOON store they have negotiated the best price with me and you will be given a save Black isk credit and entered into the raffle to save my character from Biomass suicide. I want to support the goons cause The Mittani has done such a great job in supporting anti bully programs since his drunken miss step.
Are we having fun yet. |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:39:00 -
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Rosewalker wrote:DNSBLACK wrote:
5. This practice has been ok'd and does not break the EULA according to CCP.
I am doing this to re-capture some of my money I have spent on EVE over the last 7 years and look for another game to play. This is not a joke and CCP has left me no choice. I suggest that everyone of you look to sell your stuff in this manner before CCP cracks down.
So if you are a third party seller of GTC please send me a eve mail with your percentage offer let the bidding begin.
Really? I would think this would violate Section 6B of the EULA... EULA wrote:
B. Selling Items and Objects
You may not transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction (or offer to do any of the foregoing), any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, other than via a permitted Character Transfer as described in section 3 above. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. The buying, selling or auctioning (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects, whether through online auctions, newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means is prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game.
...as well as item 10 of the Terms of Service Terms of Service wrote:
10. You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of items in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.
I think the "any other means" in the EULA covers raffles. The same with "otherwise arrange" in ToS. I'll be interested to see how this plays out.
that section of the EULA is what is now being called a grey area. Sad this all happening during one of the best player events and just prior to an expansion I was really excited about. |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:40:00 -
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But don't worry my character has a lot of LP in SOE so who ever wins him will be sitting pretty with the new ships!!!!!!!! |
DNSBLACK
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:15:00 -
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quote=Kirren D'marr]Anya Klibor wrote:I'll admit to being ignorant of the other issues in that I don't know the specifics, but I know of them. The only one I am aware of and know the details of is the members of Blink receiving Ishukone Watch Scorpions, so if you wouldn't mind linking me to the other issues at hand for me to look through, that'd be terrific!
This stuff has been all over the forums of late, but here's a few threads to get you started:
CCP reintroducing the Gold Magate and adding in new Guardian-Vexors through Somer Blink
A review of player giveaways with CCP and third party sites
CSM Statement on the SOMER Promotion (with reply from CCP Pokethulu)
SomerGate - Questions.
Ishukone Ships and Surrounding issues... Coming SOON (TM)
And a few articles from player-run sties:
SOMERblink: Serving the Eve Community, Not a Community Service
SOMER of rage
Rare Item Lottery Sparks Controversy
CCP Changes Somer Blink Giveaway
CCP Secretly Gifted SOMER Blink Ishukone Scorpions
There's a lot of material to get through; most of the relevant stuff isn't in the first posts, but in conversations that develop in the responses. The thread we are currently in, being one of the latest, probably has the most comprehensive information, but it is still a lot to dig through. Basically though, there are multiple allegations of actions of favoritism of CCP towards SOMER Blink, compounded with the RMT-like nature of SOMER's operation, CCP's choice of a for-profit organization over true community services as a target for giveaways, CCP upsetting the balance of the sandbox by giving SOMER Blink a clear advantage over their competitors, possible connections between CCP employees and SOMER (devs who may have been former members of SOMER Blink before being hired, etc.), and the list goes on.
The bottom line is that there is certainly the appearance of a lot of impropriety going on between CCP and SOMER Blink. How much of it is substantiated has yet to be fully discovered, but there is enough evidence to warrant concern, and we may all still be surprised at exactly how far this goes.[/quote]
Rosewalker here is a up date |
DNSBLACK
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Posted - 2013.10.17 04:17:00 -
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The first CCP employee who gets it. Thank you for unlocking my thread to profit of the new business model of CCP. |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 04:29:00 -
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Luis Graca wrote:Sorry for interrupt you're happiness but ISD aren't employees they are volunteers
Anyway i still can't believe they unlocked it
LOL----> VOL or EMPLOYEE really he is incharge of CCP products IE the ducking forums dumb ass. I guess this makes him a employee.
Guess what his monthly pay is a free ducking account = emplyoyee |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 04:42:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Please stop saying *ducking*
It makes me want to kick a puppy.
Or maybe a duck.
Put this on you tube. I would love to watch it |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 05:03:00 -
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http://www.teen.com/2012/09/24/im-bored/one-direction-dolls-funny-pictures/attachment/1d8/
for all the doll poster; I just wanted this posted here so others can answer for me when you ask in this post. |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:57:00 -
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Two Step better yet
1. I just sold a GTC to a guy for $2500.00 I gave him 2500 black credits.
2. I just sold another guy a GTC for $17.00 and gave him 2 black credits
3. Both of these guys used the black credits and bought tickets to my charcter raffle.
4. I all ready held the drawing and the winner will be announced soon.
5. I will be starting the legal transfer on the charcter form today.
6. Thank you CCP I made $ 2502 dollars enjoy your 30.00 dollars.
7. I did this with no website. |
DNSBLACK
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:51:00 -
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1. Net gain $2475.00.
2. Would like to thank all of you for posting and helping me sell my GTC and black credits. The bumps and advertising was awesome.
3. Please watch the character Bazaar for the final transfer according to all the rules. |
DNSBLACK
Aliastra
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:21:00 -
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Hey CCP; DNS just set you RED and welcome to the sand box. Somer is a enemy of DNS and you have them set blue please
take a look in your lobby it is time to PVP.
http://i.imgur.com/Hk1UAInh.jpg
Yes I have control of this charcter still waiting for my eastern block friends to wake up and drink some coffee. |
DNSBLACK
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:12:00 -
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MyEveLotto wrote:I think I now have found an expansion to make on my website.
myEVElotto will permit you to sell your characters and/or assets through our system. To purchase tickets for your character/asset lottery, one can send money via PayPal to a designated account. The system then selects a random winner (from those who purchased MELtickets) and that person wins the prize.
If you need a lottery front to legitimize your RMT CCP-authorized character lottery, please contact myEVElotto for pricing and terms. We will act as the "third party" that every legit CCP-authorized RMT scheme lottery requires.
Stop stealing my ideas dammit. Wait one second what am I saying. YOU GO GIRL. I LOVE IT |
DNSBLACK
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:27:00 -
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At the rate my Paypal account is growing; I won't need CCP to give me trips to Iceland to BLack Blink off I can pay for it myself and then give it away .
They should be excited cause GTC sales for them will go thru the roof and the didn't have to pay for the trip. Winning |
DNSBLACK
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:51:00 -
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MyEveLotto wrote:DNSBLACK wrote:Stop stealing my ideas dammit. Wait one second what am I saying. YOU GO GIRL. I LOVE IT What do you care? You're quitting the game anyway.  Besides, corporate espionage is what makes the world go 'round. How could you possibly object to it?
You missed my point. Iam excited for you.
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DNSBLACK
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:55:00 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:He is selling GTCs, I'm sure when he said he would sell his character through the bazaar it would be done properly. For instance, I can sell my character for 1 isk. I can also choose who pays me for it. DNSBLACK wrote:
3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle once all my assets are gone. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over.
5. This practice has been ok'd and does not break the EULA according to CCP.
Does that count as impersonating CCP too?
These are all grey areas now. |
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