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Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD
1077
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:41:00 -
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Thought this might deserve its own thread.
5% Torpedo and Cruise Damage
4% Armor Resist
Jet-Black roving death machine.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
333
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:46:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Thought this might deserve its own thread. 5% Torpedo and Cruise Damage 4% Armor Resist Jet-Black roving death machine.
Yeah, guilty... Except this is an Amarr ship, and isn't jet black a Minmatar trait? Maybe a mottled pattern like the Machariel? But I like where you're going with this. +1 I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Harlon Cordarii
The Black Ops Northern Associates.
2
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:24:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Silas Vitalia wrote:Thought this might deserve its own thread. 5% Torpedo and Cruise Damage 4% Armor Resist Jet-Black roving death machine.
Yeah, guilty... Except this is an Amarr ship, and isn't jet black a Minmatar trait? Maybe a mottled pattern like the Machariel? But I like where you're going with this. +1
I think he meant that silver/black/blue light scheme that the badass Vengeance and Malediction use among other ships. I'm super +1ing this idea because I can't get enough of that color scheme! |
Tilly Delnero
Licorne Ventures Ltd.
70
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:27:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Thought this might deserve its own thread.
5% Torpedo and Cruise Damage
4% Armor Resist
Jet-Black roving death machine.
I have to admit that during the tier 1 battleship refocussing I genuinely hoped and wished for a Khanid battleship to round out the set. It just seems weird that we have a Khanid missile AF, a HAC, a Recon, a CS but then... nothing. Glad to see someone else might share my vision of a viable all-Khanid roaming fleet. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD
1081
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:33:00 -
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Having run a super nerdy khanid-oriented corp many years ago this has long been a goal :P (the all khanid-ship gangs)
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
334
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:38:00 -
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Harlon Cordarii wrote:I think he meant that silver/black/blue light scheme that the badass Vengeance and Malediction use among other ships. I'm super +1ing this idea because I can't get enough of that color scheme! Oh, oh, ohhhhh.... Yes, yes yes! The matte black with the brushed platinum and blue highlights, definitely ++++. And sure, why not a missile ship (it's not like we'll be seeing a Pirate or Caldari one anytime soon). It needs to have 8 missile turrets though. None of this 6 launcher + 2 turret crap. Maybe a +5% bonus to RHML damage instead and then this thing would rock as a cruise killer. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Obsidiana
White-Noise
223
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:43:00 -
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I'm holding out for a tech 2 version.
Hey, stop laughing! I'm serious. :P |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD
1083
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:47:00 -
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Obsidiana wrote:I'm holding out for a tech 2 version.
Hey, stop laughing! I'm serious. :P
Yea I realize all the other Khanid ships are T2, but we've been waiting for T2 battleships for what like 10 years now? :P
I just wants my Torpedo Abaddon.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
336
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:16:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Yea I realize all the other Khanid ships are T2, but we've been waiting for T2 battleships for what like 10 years now? :P I just wants my Torpedo Abaddon. Don't hold your breath... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Iudicium Vastus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:33:00 -
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More BS variety would be very cool. Some combat oriented T2s would be super nice. All we have right now for T2 BS hulls are the PVE Marauders, and the Blackops, which are pretty much mini titans for only covert bridges. |
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Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
336
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:35:00 -
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Iudicium Vastus wrote:More BS variety would be very cool. Some combat oriented T2s would be super nice. All we have right now for T2 BS hulls are the PVE Marauders, and the Blackops, which are pretty much mini titans for only covert bridges. But this is EVE, and we abhor DPS... We have to ensure those uber-rare and never used State, Tribal, Federate and Imperial issue battleships continue to have "3lite" status. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals Market and Contract PVP
32
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:33:00 -
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Battlesized Sac? |
Naomi Anthar
144
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:43:00 -
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As full time Amarr pilot i don't want it at all.
I'm tired of missile ships overshadowing thier laser counterparts: malediction > crusader vengance > retribution etc
You hear it - i don't want it.
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
1171
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:50:00 -
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The lack of a proper* armour tanked missile spewing battleship has irked me for a long time.
A T2 version of the Tier 3 range should be Khanid, same way the Hyperion would be Roden for Gallente. Then you've armour tanked missile spewers with either a rep bonus or resists.
The issue is finding a role for T2 Tier 3's. Battleship command ships?
*Armour scorps/typhoons are not proper armour tanked missile spewers. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
ApolloF117 HUN
x-universum reunion
13
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:56:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:As full time Amarr pilot i don't want it at all.
I'm tired of missile ships overshadowing thier laser counterparts: malediction > crusader vengance > retribution etc
You hear it - i don't want it.
thats you, but we want! maybe you need play much more than 1 year in eve |
Naomi Anthar
144
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:57:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:The lack of a proper* armour tanked missile spewing battleship has irked me for a long time.
A T2 version of the Tier 3 range should be Khanid, same way the Hyperion would be Roden for Gallente. Then you've armour tanked missile spewers with either a rep bonus or resists.
The issue is finding a role for T2 Tier 3's. Battleship command ships?
*Armour scorps/typhoons are not proper armour tanked missile spewers.
Irked you ?
Raven Raven Navy Issue Typhoon Typhoon Fleet Issue - PROPER ARMOUR tanked missile spewing battleship just like it's standard version. Golem Scorpion Navy Issue Widow and maybe even Rattle after rebalance (but we don't know)
and you say no missile battleships ? By all means there are 2 armor missile battleships from which one is faction aswell for "upgrade".
You all talking like we don't have advanced combat battleships for PvP... Problem is that we don't have advanced laser bs aswell for PvP OPEN combat. Nor Projectile or Hybrid.
STOP MAKING CALDARI FROM AMARR. Just coated in armor. Khanid lineup is big enough. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
1171
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:59:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:The lack of a proper* armour tanked missile spewing battleship has irked me for a long time.
A T2 version of the Tier 3 range should be Khanid, same way the Hyperion would be Roden for Gallente. Then you've armour tanked missile spewers with either a rep bonus or resists.
The issue is finding a role for T2 Tier 3's. Battleship command ships?
*Armour scorps/typhoons are not proper armour tanked missile spewers. Irked you ? Raven Raven Navy Issue Typhoon Typhoon Fleet Issue Golem Scorpion Navy Issue Widow and maybe even Rattle after rebalance (but we don't know) and you say no missile battleships ? By all means there are 2 armor missile battleships from which one is faction aswell for "upgrade". You all talking like we don't have advanced combat battleships for PvP... Problem is that we don't have advanced laser bs aswell for PvP OPEN combat. Nor Projectile or Hybrid. STOP MAKING CALDARI FROM AMARR. Just coated in armor. Khanid lineup is big enough.
I'm going to let you go back and re-read the line again, then when you realise the mistake you just made, I'll edit this message out so your lack of reading comprehension isn't saved for posterity. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Naomi Anthar
144
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:02:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Naomi Anthar wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:The lack of a proper* armour tanked missile spewing battleship has irked me for a long time.
A T2 version of the Tier 3 range should be Khanid, same way the Hyperion would be Roden for Gallente. Then you've armour tanked missile spewers with either a rep bonus or resists.
The issue is finding a role for T2 Tier 3's. Battleship command ships?
*Armour scorps/typhoons are not proper armour tanked missile spewers. Irked you ? Raven Raven Navy Issue Typhoon Typhoon Fleet Issue Golem Scorpion Navy Issue Widow and maybe even Rattle after rebalance (but we don't know) and you say no missile battleships ? By all means there are 2 armor missile battleships from which one is faction aswell for "upgrade". You all talking like we don't have advanced combat battleships for PvP... Problem is that we don't have advanced laser bs aswell for PvP OPEN combat. Nor Projectile or Hybrid. STOP MAKING CALDARI FROM AMARR. Just coated in armor. Khanid lineup is big enough. I'm going to let you go back and re-read the line again, then when you realise the mistake you just made, I'll edit this message out so your lack of reading comprehension isn't saved for posterity.
No no i do understand you completly. You want Amarr race to have Torp advanced combat battleship , but no Laser based. That is what you want. Like remove Zealot and leave Sacrilege only.(just example)
I know exactly what you want and i'm completly against it. If there will be T2 full COMBAT oriented PvP battleship for Amarr race - let it be LASER BASED. You don't like Amarr - don't fly it. But don't rework entire faction to suit your needs.
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
1172
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:11:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:Naomi Anthar wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:The lack of a proper* armour tanked missile spewing battleship has irked me for a long time.
A T2 version of the Tier 3 range should be Khanid, same way the Hyperion would be Roden for Gallente. Then you've armour tanked missile spewers with either a rep bonus or resists.
The issue is finding a role for T2 Tier 3's. Battleship command ships?
*Armour scorps/typhoons are not proper armour tanked missile spewers. Irked you ? Raven Raven Navy Issue Typhoon Typhoon Fleet Issue Golem Scorpion Navy Issue Widow and maybe even Rattle after rebalance (but we don't know) and you say no missile battleships ? By all means there are 2 armor missile battleships from which one is faction aswell for "upgrade". You all talking like we don't have advanced combat battleships for PvP... Problem is that we don't have advanced laser bs aswell for PvP OPEN combat. Nor Projectile or Hybrid. STOP MAKING CALDARI FROM AMARR. Just coated in armor. Khanid lineup is big enough. I'm going to let you go back and re-read the line again, then when you realise the mistake you just made, I'll edit this message out so your lack of reading comprehension isn't saved for posterity. No no i do understand you completly. You want Amarr race to have Torp advanced combat battleship , but no Laser based. That is what you want. Like remove Zealot and leave Sacrilege only.(just example) I know exactly what you want and i'm completly against it. If there will be T2 full COMBAT oriented PvP battleship for Amarr race - let it be LASER BASED. You don't like Amarr - don't fly it. But don't rework entire faction to suit your needs.
I meant more how I specifically said there's no proper armour tanked battleships, you listed a ton of shield tanked ones.
Also with the Marauder change, the Paladin has a combat role in PvP. You also have the Bhaalgorn, and the shield tanked Nightmare from the faction range.
Everything* is pretty much covered except armour tanked missile ships in the Battleship class. Khanid exists to fill that hole, there's plenty of other laser ships out there.
*Though I may get pulled up on Armour Machs being the AT'd projectile ship.
Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
TehCloud
Mastercard.
159
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:31:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:
Everything* is pretty much covered except armour tanked missile ships in the Battleship class. Khanid exists to fill that hole, there's plenty of other laser ships out there.
Also Rhoden Shipyards! My Condor costs less than that module! |
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
1176
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Posted - 2013.10.17 14:02:00 -
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TehCloud wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:
Everything* is pretty much covered except armour tanked missile ships in the Battleship class. Khanid exists to fill that hole, there's plenty of other laser ships out there.
Also Rhoden Shipyards!
I mentioned that in my first comment in this thread. A RodenHyp would probably be the missile spewer. Though it seems in recent pushes they're moving away from the Roden/Missile thing. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD
1091
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:03:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:TehCloud wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:
Everything* is pretty much covered except armour tanked missile ships in the Battleship class. Khanid exists to fill that hole, there's plenty of other laser ships out there.
Also Rhoden Shipyards! I mentioned that in my first comment in this thread. A RodenHyp would probably be the missile spewer. Though it seems in recent pushes they're moving away from the Roden/Missile thing.
Roden bows before Khanid II :P
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Swiftstrike1
Interfector INC. Fade 2 Black
286
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:07:00 -
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A battleship sized Sacrilege does sound appealing.... *tentative +1* Fleet Bookmarks New Gravimetric Sites Med Clones 2.0 |
Victor Khisander
Twilight Phoenix Rising Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:40:00 -
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Count me in! I'm drooling all over the idea of flying a (T2??) Khanid Battleship. Once you fly one of those lovely Khanid Ships you never go back to the other Junk. An entire fleet of Khanid Ships from Frigate to Battleship....I'm in my bunk. |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
107
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:50:00 -
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The idea of a jet black Abaddon spewing missiles from 8 bonused RHMLs onto poor support and anti support ships is making me quite aroused. However a Raven or Phoon will probably already fill this role just fine once Rubicon hits. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD
1094
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:57:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:The idea of a jet black Abaddon spewing missiles from 8 bonused RHMLs onto poor support and anti support ships is making me quite aroused. However a Raven or Phoon will probably already fill this role just fine once Rubicon hits.
Ravens primarily shield-tanked
Armor phoons lose their agility advantage.
Big slow Armor Abaddons with missiles fills a hole. With pain.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Angeal MacNova
XDraconis CombineX
85
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:05:00 -
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The use of missiles/rockets/torpedos on T2 Amarr ships is a common trend.
Assault Frigate (Vengeance) Covert Ops (Stealth Bomber) Heavy Assault Ship (Sacrilege)
A seige class BS for Pos bashing in hi-sec would be nice.
A T2 Abby with launcher hardpoints and purhaps a 95% (or however much) powergrid reduction on the use of capital sized launchers.
One for each race...
Definately the same color scheme as the vengeance on the T2 abby. |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
348
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:09:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:The idea of a jet black Abaddon spewing missiles from 8 bonused RHMLs onto poor support and anti support ships is making me quite aroused. However a Raven or Phoon will probably already fill this role just fine once Rubicon hits. Don't you know it... RNI with three rigors and an assortment of cruise and RHMLs will tear through L4s.
Angeal MacNova wrote:The use of missiles/rockets/torpedos on T2 Amarr ships is a common trend. Don't forget the Damnation. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Jovran
HARD KNOCKS CORP LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
16
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:31:00 -
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Yes indeed, I do want this.
The Abaddon's hardpoint placements are already awesome for launchers in general. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
782
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Posted - 2013.10.18 00:10:00 -
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I'm just going to leave this here...
...and completely +1 this idea. |
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