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Laura Briggs
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:31:00 -
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What is the deal with not allowing a character to change thier name?
Is it so difficult to do that CCP will only do it if someone has an offensive name? It's not severly game altering, and so what if it technically erases your past. Were all roleplaying here, I'm sure we can live with it. CCP should not only allow it, but charge money for it, just as they would a character picture swap.
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Sister Bliss
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sister Bliss on 31/01/2006 13:38:16
I know, I'm sure I'm not the only one who randomly chose a character name whilst the radio was on and ended up having to stick with it to avoid skill points loss after the honeymoon was over... |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:38:00 -
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In Eve, people know you by your charname.
It's a core game component that your reputation is affected by your actions here, since once you have done alot, and have played a while, people get to know you and have an expectation.
If you allow name changes, you remove that bit of reputation and it's effect on gameplay. Something I would hate to see happen.
So, if you want a new name, reroll, or think harder before choosing your name next time around.
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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Rod Blaine
In Eve, people know you by your charname.
It's a core game component that your reputation is affected by your actions here, since once you have done alot, and have played a while, people get to know you and have an expectation.
If you allow name changes, you remove that bit of reputation and it's effect on gameplay. Something I would hate to see happen.
So, if you want a new name, reroll, or think harder before choosing your name next time around.
Absolutely, there is only one thing of any importance in Eve. It's not your ship, it's not your implants, it's not your list of kills and it's not your wallet. It is your name, it is your reputation. Guard it well because unless you decide the flush this character down the chute and re-roll your actions can have long reaching consequences for you.
Being able to change your name as well as your portrait would just make you immune from facing up to the consequences of your actions. As it stands you either lose all those SPs or you sow the wind and reap the whirlwind. Suicide alts are bad enough, suicide BS alts with years worth of skills is much much worse.
Silly idea, no.
"I cannot hear what you say for the thunder of what you are." - Zulu proverb. |
Laura Briggs
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
In Eve, people know you by your charname.
It's a core game component that your reputation is affected by your actions here, since once you have done alot, and have played a while, people get to know you and have an expectation.
If you allow name changes, you remove that bit of reputation and it's effect on gameplay. Something I would hate to see happen.
So, if you want a new name, reroll, or think harder before choosing your name next time around.
Yeah sure, lets all just throw away all the training time we've had up til now and start over new. Even if you've been playing for just a 2-week trial period, this is not a realistic option except for the hardcore players out there, and they have multiple accounts anyway. With the steep learning curve in Eve, anyone should at least be granted a one time name change. Before I started Eve I was expecting to see either a ships name or class in my HUD, not the name of the pilot. If I new that little tidbit of info, yeah, I certainly would have choose differently, and so would a lot of other people.
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Laura Briggs
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Being able to change your name as well as your portrait would just make you immune from facing up to the consequences of your actions.
CCP already allows you to change your portrait. I have nothing wrong in my rep, and I would still have a corp history, so no, I dont see your point.
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robacz
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:10:00 -
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Problem is that ppl with no experience with MMO or Eve dont realize how important name is for this game. Also many just want to try the game on trial and dont bother with character creation too much... thats my case btw  I just used my IRC name without any thinking about it and now I have to use it forever. I think name change should be possible. It could be limited to one name change per x months and there should be name history in your char info.
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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Laura Briggs
Yeah sure, lets all just throw away all the training time we've had up til now and start over new.
Or live with your name that you chose. It could be worse than Laura Briggs. Trust me.
Originally by: Laura Briggs
Even if you've been playing for just a 2-week trial period, this is not a realistic option except for the hardcore players out there, and they have multiple accounts anyway. With the steep learning curve in Eve, anyone should at least be granted a one time name change. Before I started Eve I was expecting to see either a ships name or class in my HUD, not the name of the pilot. If I new that little tidbit of info, yeah, I certainly would have choose differently, and so would a lot of other people.
If what you see in your HUD is what bugs you surely you would have realised that the first time you undocked. Two weeks is nothing to sacrifice training wise. Not if your name bugs you so much. It will only get worse the longer you leave it.
It's a tough call but the ability to change your identity while retaining all your skills and implants is bad, game breaking, griefing, no consequence, bad.
Even if it was limited to once per account you give every second account using corp thief a free shot. Of course you will find plenty of folks who don't like their second choice and the cycle continues (see Skill training, Learning skills added to give new players a boost. Now we have new players who want those learning skills ready trained for free  ).
If you re-roll you can transfer all your gear over to the new character so you won;t have to lose all your stuff. You can even train this new character instead of your current main while you continue to use you main (who will no longer be training) to make ISK and buy skills for you new built-with-20/20-hindsight character. That sounds like a fair enough trade off to me.
"I cannot hear what you say for the thunder of what you are." - Zulu proverb. |
Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:13:00 -
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Which MMO let's you change your name? Just curious... none afaik. Any kind of self education should have told you that you don't pick avatar names at random, cause they stick... especially in EVE where effectively you only ever use 1 avatar per account.
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Sharcy
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Bliss
I know, I'm sure I'm not the only one who randomly chose a character name whilst the radio was on
Lemme guess... Faithless was playing? 
(My favourite band BTW...)
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Godagast Moonbane
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:41:00 -
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Why don't you people sit down and take a humble 10-20 minutes to think about a name you actually like, then? You're acting like it's CCP's fault that you didn't make that small effort in the first place.
A few days, up to a week, is plenty of time to find out whether you like the game or not. Start over with a "proper" character name, then - surely, losing the catastrophic amount of a week's (!) training time is worth it for that.
For once in your gaming life, accept the consequences of your own actions, and don't pass the responsibility to the developer. They certainly have other and more important things to take care of than come up with handy tools that allow a very small minority of players to erase their own mistakes.
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Sharaka
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
Which MMO let's you change your name? Just curious... none afaik.
Well EQ for one.
And yes it is game-breaking to allow people to escape the consequences of their actions. However it can be pretty upsetting to discover that the name you chose means something risible in another language. Insulting is good because you can get it petitioned and changed that way. Stupid is for life.
Personally if the previous name was shown on the character info, searcheable on people & Places, and auto-updated buddy lists then I wouldn't mind CCP making a few dollars from it. However I think they have one or two more pressing needs on the programming front just now. Simply allowing changes without any traceability would be bad. |
BaliAgha
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:04:00 -
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I just want a <space> between Bali and Agha thats all I'm asking. Nothing to fancy, just a little <space>.
Bali Agha
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Hygelac
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:07:00 -
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I reckon that in rare cases you should be allowed to change your name but it should cost a fortune. Say 50 Euros or something.
After all CCP allow you to transfer characters to new accounts for RL money, if you're prepared to cough up that sort of money then it will prevent trivial name changes.
For example, I've taken over a friends old account and I still get the odd eve mail from people he used to know. I'd rather just have a clean break.
If you're worried about Corp theives and suchlike resurrecting their reputation, how about have a new tab on the Character sheet which shows previous names:
[Legal History]
01/02/2001 : Name changed from 'Robert Smith' to 'Hygelac' by the Minmatar Legal Department.
Or something like that.
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robacz
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Godagast Moonbane
For once in your gaming life, accept the consequences of your own actions, and don't pass the responsibility to the developer. They certainly have other and more important things to take care of than come up with handy tools that allow a very small minority of players to erase their own mistakes.
I dont think name changing is disabled becouse they dont have time to code this "extremly complex" piece of code.  I think they just dont want to allow it due to reasons posted in this thread.
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Sharsara
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:14:00 -
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The only way names are changed in other MMO's is if the name is offensive or a copyright infringement.
I'm not sure either of those apply to your name.
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Eudoxus
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:23:00 -
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Sure, you can change your name could be bearable...in the first 7 days after your character is created. That would seem fair to me so someone who tried the game and found they liked it and just wanted to keep going could do so. But if it all opens the window to let long timers do it that is way wrong to me for all the issues mentioned above.
Really, eating a week or two of training to start fresh is no biggie because most noobs would have screwed up something creating the base character anyway (skill point allocation or portrait or name or all three). I ended up eating it and started my new toon with a portrait I actually paid attention to and a name I paid attention to. Would it have been nice to have got a reroll or a name change option, sure, game killing for me, hardly.
And I still might need to work on my portrait as my alt almost looks better and we can't have that now can we!
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Laura Briggs
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:25:00 -
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Actually this is the first MMORPG I have played, and in any other game, changing your character's name is no big deal. Did I research Eve before starting? Sure, probably more than most. But that was more research on how I should build my character, not something as seemingly trivial as your name. But I probably would have started over 5 minutes into the turorial had I realized it would be a major problem to change my name.
If this was almost any other MMORPG, starting over wouldn't be a problem. In 3 months of playing WoW, I can max out a character in levels, and start another easily. That rule doesn't apply here. This also wouldnt be a problem if CCP allowed you to train different characters on the same account at the same time. But since they wont allow that, it seems like a very small favor to ask of CCP to allow a one time name change.
Should someone like Eternal Dragon be able to change thier name? I don't know. This is a game. And I can see giving a person a chance to start over fresh. But I could understand if the concensus was no. But the same rule of thumb shouldnt be applied to character less than 6 months old, with a high sec rating.
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Sharaka
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sharsara
The only way names are changed in other MMO's is if the name is offensive or a copyright infringement.
I'm not sure either of those apply to your name.
Sorry but not true.
These cases apply of course - including some really stupid GM changes of inoffensive names that broke no rules.
But SoE are quite happy to take your money - $49.95 to change your name in EQ and possibly some of their others. |
PhotoJerk
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:36:00 -
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allowing name changes would be a buff to the scammers and trashy people.
This cannot be allowed as we need a way of tracking crimnals ingame.
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Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:41:00 -
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Why would you want to change your name ?..
In my view it's who you are, games like this are not quake and doom, you havea char, it's alive.. there is no Depol here
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Nev Clavain
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:42:00 -
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name changes should be allowed for characters under 750k skillpoints or somethign around that mark. Or perhaps you could be given the option of a name change when you switch from a trial to a paying account.
Once you reach a certain level within the game though, your name should remain fixed, because anonymity makes your average teenager behave like a ***** head.
At the end of the day its just a name anyway, try not to be so fickle and concentrate on things in the game which actually make a difference....
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LX22
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: LX22 on 31/01/2006 16:09:01
.whoops
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Asssassin X
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Asssassin X on 31/01/2006 16:08:14
<----- yea and dumbasses who spell there name wrong |
Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:09:00 -
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We have employment history, it would be no big deal to have known aliases listed.
Allowing people to change their halfassed names would no doubt promote more of an EVE feel and be good for the game, I'd have this put in over more spectacular explosions any day...
Remind me about The Maze.
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BaliAgha
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: BaliAgha on 31/01/2006 16:14:37
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
We have employment history, it would be no big deal to have known aliases listed.
Allowing people to change their halfassed names would no doubt promote more of an EVE feel and be good for the game, I'd have this put in over more spectacular explosions any day...
Put over "spectacular explosions"?!?! Those are the only things that keep me from falling asleep. Without spectacular explosions I would no doubt be unable to put on firework shows and no more awsome screenshots. 
Bali Agha
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Pihls XIIX
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:20:00 -
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I wouldnt mind a slight name change possibility
its was a option before under account managment.
and I got 2 accounts with names that hm wouldnt hurt a sligth name change
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:20:00 -
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Then again you mister pirate safehaven have no problem with lameass names do you.
Remind me about The Maze.
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PhamNuwen
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: PhamNuwen on 31/01/2006 16:25:13
Originally by: Laura Briggs
What is the deal with not allowing a character to change thier name?
Is it so difficult to do that CCP will only do it if someone has an offensive name? It's not severly game altering, and so what if it technically erases your past. Were all roleplaying here, I'm sure we can live with it. CCP should not only allow it, but charge money for it, just as they would a character picture swap.
only 'bad' characters wish do change the name
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BaliAgha
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Then again you mister pirate safehaven have no problem with lameass names do you.
Danton what lame names are you directing that statment towards Any in particular
Bali Agha
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