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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:10:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Enduros wrote:Why do so many see EvE as "shoot at other people PvP" game? Because the "shoot other people PvP" is the most awesome part of the game. First you start playing eve, you fly around, run some missions etc. Then you do some exploration, wormholes and such and think "this is pretty cool I suppose" Then you get attacked in lowsec, your heartrate jumps to about 200 beats per minute and your hands start shaking. Then at some point you just kind of realise that you've been doing nothing but PvP for the past 5 years and EVE is totally a PvP game where you shoot at other people. You are clearly lying. When i started EvE, i was hauling stuff from, to and in between lowsec in my huge iteron. The part about the heartrate is true, though.
First time i sat at the lowsec gate i had to leave the PC and go peeing... |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:13:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Enduros wrote: Face it, when you are in a fleet where you could just as well be replaced with ISboxer and the fleet might manage better because of improved alpha it doesn't take skill, at least your part in it. The guy running the show is a different matter all together.
Can't say in all my EvE-Years I've ever served in an operation such as the one you describe My brother was in Hydra's Great Null Sec Misadventure, and Ill tell you that it took skill too extract himself from that debacle with his Hurricane intact But please tell me more about how moving your mouse a lot helps you learn how to infiltrate corps and destroy alliances Or build Caps Or explore W-Space Or transport material up and down from Jita to Venal I was referring to how combat is in eve and how it compares to other games. The games I listed are considered e-sports. Building caps and espionage don't fall under combat, at least not directly. Moving stuff in and out of null is not e-sports material. I'm not talking about the planning that goes into getting a fight in eve, I'm talking about being in one. If whatever you brought is not up to the task there isn't gonna be a fight, just a bunch of running around waiting for the eventual calamity to occur. |
Julius Priscus
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:15:00 -
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this how forced undocking works..
its great for the gankers till they are forced to undock when they don't wanna. then its not fair. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:17:00 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:this how forced undocking works..
its great for the gankers till they are forced to undock when they don't wanna. then its not fair. Would just lead to how people use supers now. You stay logged off until the odds favor you. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
407
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:19:00 -
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Eve in the opening video says the goal is power. Force is usually the most effective way of gaining and exerting power.
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4117
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:21:00 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:this how forced undocking works..
its great for the gankers till they are forced to undock when they don't wanna. then its not fair. Try me............... |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:24:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Eve in the opening video says the goal is power. Force is usually the most effective way of gaining and exerting power.
You mean command of force. You alone will have little force. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
426
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:25:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Possibly one of the best, well thought out, and reasonable requests for a button in the esc menu that allows you to go back to WoW. Why do you bring up wow when we are talking about PvP. I've never played wow, mostly because it doesn't have any spaceships in it. You're wrong, it does. I've even been flying a two seater rocket. And the wrecked Titan on Caldari Prime is no match for the crash site in WoW. You can even ride into that thing!
Thinking about it, any news about WiS in Vegas?
Remove insurance. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4893
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:27:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Eve in the opening video says the goal is power. Force is usually the most effective way of gaining and exerting power. It says the empires are losing their grasp on power, but ... not really. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4117
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:29:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Eve in the opening video says the goal is power. Force is usually the most effective way of gaining and exerting power.
You mean command of force. You alone will have little force. Cannibal Kane would teach you otherwise. |
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Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
407
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:33:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Eve in the opening video says the goal is power. Force is usually the most effective way of gaining and exerting power.
You mean command of force. You alone will have little force.
Individual power has limits to what it can achieve. To achieve more you must subsume your will into that of the collective.
Serve in Heaven, or, Rule in Hell. |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:36:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Enduros wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Eve in the opening video says the goal is power. Force is usually the most effective way of gaining and exerting power.
You mean command of force. You alone will have little force. Cannibal Kane would teach you otherwise. The shirtless blond guy shooting nubs in hi-sec? I doubt it, I don't go to hi-sec that much. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4893
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:36:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Enduros wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Eve in the opening video says the goal is power. Force is usually the most effective way of gaining and exerting power. You mean command of force. You alone will have little force. Cannibal Kane would teach you otherwise. Force projection needs to be nerfed There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4117
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:40:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Enduros wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Eve in the opening video says the goal is power. Force is usually the most effective way of gaining and exerting power.
You mean command of force. You alone will have little force. Cannibal Kane would teach you otherwise. The shirtless blond guy shooting nubs in hi-sec? I doubt it, I don't go to hi-sec that much. Which has nothing to do with the fact that single players can project a lot of force, which he clearly proves. |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:42:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Did i spot a strawman?
You thought I live in hi-sec? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4893
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:45:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Did i spot a strawman? You thought I live in hi-sec? Doesn't everyone have alts in highsec There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:47:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Did i spot a strawman? You thought I live in hi-sec? Doesn't everyone have alts in highsec Doesn't everyone keep them in npc corps and as anonymous as possible? |
Atlantis Fuanan
Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:50:00 -
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He is so right! I always look at these blob-ganks stuff and think ... where are you balls? PVP in this game seems to have a different meaning every other has in mind: Instead of having a skilled competition who is the best pilot (SP and skill-wise) it's nearly only number-based factors that decide an outcome of a PVP-Fight. Also this attitude of people just going for every f*ing kill is so poor. I wonder if these people really feel that awesome if they manage to gank a miner (Oh yes, it was a very hard and intense fight) or just blob another group (It was a balanced fight, wasn't it?). But this results ofcourse of the lack of PVP in general. Some people WANT to shoot stuff, but there is no incentive to go for smaller fights as loosing ships seems to be a real pain for even the pvp-dedicated players. So instead they pick up their buddies (which is good) and go to hunt everything, even solo, not dangerous ships (which is just poor). I wonder, so many people seem to be having billions of ISK on their wallets, why are so few people not ready to throw in some pricey ships and just have a skilled fight? Are people really just about to have their Killcounter go up like in any FPS? Things that would make EVE better: NRDS - Remove Local - Balance Cloak - Sov-Mechanic Changes - Less QQ |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:50:00 -
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Damn, the italicised bit was purdy. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4893
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:52:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Did i spot a strawman? You thought I live in hi-sec? Doesn't everyone have alts in highsec Doesn't everyone keep them in npc corps and as anonymous as possible? 1man corps are better if you use a mission running alt. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4893
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:53:00 -
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Atlantis Fuanan wrote:He is so right! I always look at these blob-ganks stuff and think ... where are you balls? PVP in this game seems to have a different meaning every other has in mind: Instead of having a skilled competition who is the best pilot (SP and skill-wise) it's nearly only number-based factors that decide an outcome of a PVP-Fight. Also this attitude of people just going for every f*ing kill is so poor. I wonder if these people really feel that awesome if they manage to gank a miner (Oh yes, it was a very hard and intense fight) or just blob another group (It was a balanced fight, wasn't it?). But this results ofcourse of the lack of PVP in general. Some people WANT to shoot stuff, but there is no incentive to go for smaller fights as loosing ships seems to be a real pain for even the pvp-dedicated players. So instead they pick up their buddies (which is good) and go to hunt everything, even solo, not dangerous ships (which is just poor). I wonder, so many people seem to be having billions of ISK on their wallets, why are so few people not ready to throw in some pricey ships and just have a skilled fight? Are people really just about to have their Killcounter go up like in any FPS? I know, right?
Like those 100-man fleets in curse. They were just sitting off the test staging systems with drones assigned and that was about it for you if you undocked. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4117
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:54:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Did i spot a strawman?
You thought I live in hi-sec? Wasn't actually sure, thus edited my post.
Doesn't matter where you live, because it doesn't change the facts. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4119
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:57:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Atlantis Fuanan wrote:He is so right! I always look at these blob-ganks stuff and think ... where are you balls? PVP in this game seems to have a different meaning every other has in mind: Instead of having a skilled competition who is the best pilot (SP and skill-wise) it's nearly only number-based factors that decide an outcome of a PVP-Fight. Also this attitude of people just going for every f*ing kill is so poor. I wonder if these people really feel that awesome if they manage to gank a miner (Oh yes, it was a very hard and intense fight) or just blob another group (It was a balanced fight, wasn't it?). But this results ofcourse of the lack of PVP in general. Some people WANT to shoot stuff, but there is no incentive to go for smaller fights as loosing ships seems to be a real pain for even the pvp-dedicated players. So instead they pick up their buddies (which is good) and go to hunt everything, even solo, not dangerous ships (which is just poor). I wonder, so many people seem to be having billions of ISK on their wallets, why are so few people not ready to throw in some pricey ships and just have a skilled fight? Are people really just about to have their Killcounter go up like in any FPS? I know, right? Like those 100-man fleets in curse. They were just sitting off the test staging systems with drones assigned and that was about it for you if you undocked. Excuse my ignorance, but shouldn't instaundockwarps go past any bubbles on grid in front of the undock? There's a certain distance bubbles can be dropped next to the station? |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
250
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:57:00 -
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Atlantis Fuanan wrote:He is so right! I always look at these blob-ganks stuff and think ... where are you balls? PVP in this game seems to have a different meaning every other has in mind: Instead of having a skilled competition who is the best pilot (SP and skill-wise) it's nearly only number-based factors that decide an outcome of a PVP-Fight. Also this attitude of people just going for every f*ing kill is so poor. I wonder if these people really feel that awesome if they manage to gank a miner (Oh yes, it was a very hard and intense fight) or just blob another group (It was a balanced fight, wasn't it?). But this results ofcourse of the lack of PVP in general. Some people WANT to shoot stuff, but there is no incentive to go for smaller fights as loosing ships seems to be a real pain for even the pvp-dedicated players. So instead they pick up their buddies (which is good) and go to hunt everything, even solo, not dangerous ships (which is just poor). I wonder, so many people seem to be having billions of ISK on their wallets, why are so few people not ready to throw in some pricey ships and just have a skilled fight? Are people really just about to have their Killcounter go up like in any FPS?
it's mainly because of a deficit in targets. when you've got a fleet waiting to bridge for an hour they're going to get bored swapping **** links. when you're hungry you settle for minnows.
but you really want a nice big juicy fish. freelance space bum |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:58:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Did i spot a strawman?
You thought I live in hi-sec? Wasn't actually sure, thus edited my post. Doesn't matter where you live, because it doesn't change the facts. Which facts are those? |
Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
407
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:58:00 -
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Atlantis Fuanan wrote:He is so right! I always look at these blob-ganks stuff and think ... where are you balls? PVP in this game seems to have a different meaning every other has in mind: Instead of having a skilled competition who is the best pilot (SP and skill-wise) it's nearly only number-based factors that decide an outcome of a PVP-Fight. Also this attitude of people just going for every f*ing kill is so poor. I wonder if these people really feel that awesome if they manage to gank a miner (Oh yes, it was a very hard and intense fight) or just blob another group (It was a balanced fight, wasn't it?). But this results ofcourse of the lack of PVP in general. Some people WANT to shoot stuff, but there is no incentive to go for smaller fights as loosing ships seems to be a real pain for even the pvp-dedicated players. So instead they pick up their buddies (which is good) and go to hunt everything, even solo, not dangerous ships (which is just poor). I wonder, so many people seem to be having billions of ISK on their wallets, why are so few people not ready to throw in some pricey ships and just have a skilled fight? Are people really just about to have their Killcounter go up like in any FPS?
For the awesome feeling that comes from victory in skilled combat there's loads of other games.
For the awesome feeling that comes from taking something weak and defenseless and squishing it until dead, there is EVE
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4119
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:59:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Did i spot a strawman?
You thought I live in hi-sec? Wasn't actually sure, thus edited my post. Doesn't matter where you live, because it doesn't change the facts. Which facts are those? Read the edited post.
Single players can project a lot of force onto others. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4119
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:02:00 -
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Please don't mistake my posts as pure opposition. It's simply that my observations tell me that your opinion isn't factually correct.
Edit: posting on my phone and hating it. |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:05:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Enduros wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Did i spot a strawman?
You thought I live in hi-sec? Wasn't actually sure, thus edited my post. Doesn't matter where you live, because it doesn't change the facts. Which facts are those? Read the edited post. Single players can project a lot of force onto others. You mean on to selected others, right? Because judging from recent kills all it takes is fitting a point and both you and him would not engage. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
761
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:06:00 -
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Interaction is the center of an MMO. EvE caters to people who prefer to interact in a physical manner.
I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:( Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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