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Lady Ghoulia
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Posted - 2006.02.06 02:02:00 -
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you all know the story of GHSC - my question is, to what point can someone push a total destruction?
if i infiltrate a corp to the level where i become friends with the target, and he gives me his logons (because friends do that, for when i'm on holiday, and i need a skill changing), can i use those to repeatedly pod him (losing millions of SP) or even trash the char?
CCP says (somewhere) not to give out your details to anyone, but people do, at times, as stated above.
low as it may be, would CCP frown on this kind of tihng, or would it be seen as out of their hands?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.06 02:06:00 -
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Its kind of frowned upon to do that.... IIRC it can get you banned.
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Cvuos
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Posted - 2006.02.06 02:06:00 -
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Transfer char to your own accout, replace with three newbs. 
Remember to transfer the 5000 starter-isk away too. 
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2006.02.06 02:19:00 -
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To quote the EULA:
"You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account. Joint or shared ownership or use of an Account by more than one user is prohibited."
Says it all, I believe.
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Rein Fallow
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Posted - 2006.02.06 02:21:00 -
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So, if someone gave their logon for skill changing to a friend, and the friend scammed them, the GMs would be like, HAH! And then leave them alone.
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Lady Ghoulia
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Posted - 2006.02.06 02:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Capsicum
To quote the EULA:
"You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account. Joint or shared ownership or use of an Account by more than one user is prohibited."
that's my point. do not share your details out. but if i were to infiltrate to the degree where someone trusts me, it's THEM breaking the EULA, by sharing the details, not me.
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Says it all, I believe.
I wasn't, you know, planning on overpodding your main, or anyone's. was just a discussion that came up in chat
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.02.06 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: Gierling on 06/02/2006 02:30:33
I don't know, I don't even think Guiding hand would ever do anything to your account if they got the login.
Edited to add, well of course they'd take all your stuff. But I doubt they'd pod you back to 0 skillpoints.
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2006.02.06 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ghoulia
CCP says (somewhere) not to give out your details to anyone, but people do, at times, as stated above.
Sorry to sound brisk, in my previous post I was referring to that which I have just quoted 
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.02.06 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling
Edited by: Gierling on 06/02/2006 02:30:33
I don't know, I don't even think Guiding hand would ever do anything to your account if they got the login.
Edited to add, well of course they'd take all your stuff. But I doubt they'd pod you back to 0 skillpoints.
Only if they were paid to.
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Lady Ghoulia
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Posted - 2006.02.06 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling
Edited by: Gierling on 06/02/2006 02:30:33
I don't know, I don't even think Guiding hand would ever do anything to your account if they got the login.
Edited to add, well of course they'd take all your stuff. But I doubt they'd pod you back to 0 skillpoints.
well, i dont think that they're any more eveil than the next man. they're just very good at what they do, and sometimes they're in the public eye for it
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Nuri Aderynn
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Posted - 2006.02.06 03:08:00 -
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The GHSC would not do this, their famous corp theft was completely legal in-game and in fact didn't even involve an Alt as most thefts do.
I don't really get why you're asking such a ghoulish question but if it ever happened CCP might be generous and restore the character from a backup. Maybe. Just don't even go there, and stop using the GHSC as an example.
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2006.02.06 03:49:00 -
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Why not just get their addresses and break into their house and steal their computers? 
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Mathias Zealot
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Posted - 2006.02.06 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Why not just get their addresses and break into their house and steal their computers?
and burn down their house, kill anyone they ever knew, knock them out and leave them drugged and left for dead in a hostile foreign country?
...but all these things are against real laws, so that's really too far.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.02.06 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ghoulia
Originally by: Capsicum
To quote the EULA:
"You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account. Joint or shared ownership or use of an Account by more than one user is prohibited."
that's my point. do not share your details out. but if i were to infiltrate to the degree where someone trusts me, it's THEM breaking the EULA, by sharing the details, not me.
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Says it all, I believe.
I wasn't, you know, planning on overpodding your main, or anyone's. was just a discussion that came up in chat
You'd get banned too. Wouldn't be the first time.
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Professor Smartypants
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Smartypants on 06/02/2006 11:15:32
Originally by: Lady Ghoulia
you all know the story of GHSC - my question is, to what point can someone push a total destruction?
if i infiltrate a corp to the level where i become friends with the target, and he gives me his logons (because friends do that, for when i'm on holiday, and i need a skill changing), can i use those to repeatedly pod him (losing millions of SP) or even trash the char?
CCP says (somewhere) not to give out your details to anyone, but people do, at times, as stated above.
low as it may be, would CCP frown on this kind of tihng, or would it be seen as out of their hands?
I believe the act of podding someone back to 0 skillpoints (or knocling a pile of SP's off them when they went on holiday) would be called griefing. Never mind the asset loss, clearing out corp hangars etc, if anyone did this to me I'd spend a considerable amount of time finding them in RL to return the favor
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Lluthiunne Atalaron
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:32:00 -
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As far as my reasoning goes i believe anything in game goes. Which includes the infamous theft of the corps assets.
However logging into someone elses account seems to me to be using out of game and more real world tactics and therefore wrong.
No matter how they gained the password, if they logon with the sole intent of ruining the account rendering it effectively useless. I would condsider that a banning offense.
However, shame and a general slap over the head to any idiot giving out their password in the first place.
Of course CCP would always have the final word in this. They would have to draw the line somewhere though, what if they knew the guy? What if they guessed his password?
On that note how could CCP prove that the original owner gave out his password? - He could just cry Hax's
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:37:00 -
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You'd get banned for doing this. And deservedly so.
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Bl4zer
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:39:00 -
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I think that anyone that reveals their password, should be banned from using a computer, forever. And should have the word noob stamped on their forhead to warn everyone that they are an idiot.
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Zyper
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:39:00 -
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If anyone ever actually did such a thing, i'd track them down and send their real life adress to the victim .
One thing is rip apart a corp by theft, another is to ruien a character, somethign another human being has spent their time on and are proud off. Imagen if it happened to you?
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Sister 9
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bl4zer
I think that anyone that reveals their password, should be banned from using a computer, forever. And should have the word noob stamped on their forhead to warn everyone that they are an idiot.
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Tony Fats
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:52:00 -
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I think it hurts alot more to leave a totally intact character with 0 isk.
You ever seen a 3 year old player mining in a Velator with no clone?
Tell me that's not pitiful.
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Zeekial
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:54:00 -
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and if someone was to trust another with the account and pass, and they abused that trust and assaulted that char, i'd imagine that friendship would get quite strained.
remember this is a game, ingame events happen and are excepted. but out of game - would just be mean and spitefull to the person who trusted you. how about if i looked after your dog and killed it, cause i thought it'd be funny.
ingame evil tactics are annoying to the ingame char, but in rl they still have morals and respect for the rl time invested in building a char.
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:32:00 -
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If u give your login info to someone else u are a SUCKER!!! And deserve to get podded back to infancy!!!
Hell, i don't even trust my own mother with my login info! 
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Aba Tor
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mathias Zealot
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Why not just get their addresses and break into their house and steal their computers?
and burn down their house, kill anyone they ever knew, knock them out and leave them drugged and left for dead in a hostile foreign country?
...but all these things are against real laws, so that's really too far.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!
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Uuve Savisaalo
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Posted - 2006.02.11 08:41:00 -
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the line is drawn at violating the eula.
we don't go there, ccp doesn't go into altering it to restrict possible social interaction and its consequences any more significantly than it already does.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.02.11 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ghoulia
that's my point. do not share your details out. but if i were to infiltrate to the degree where someone trusts me, it's THEM breaking the EULA, by sharing the details, not me.
Not true. It takes two people to break the account sharing rule and they're both as guilty as each other.
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Jean Delacroix
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Posted - 2006.02.11 10:21:00 -
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If this happened to you, you could always just appeal to CCP, saying your account was hacked. They would likely restore everything your character to a previous state.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.02.11 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Cvuos
Transfer char to your own accout, replace with three newbs.
Remember to transfer the 5000 starter-isk away too.
Remember to hit yourself over and over when the guy reports what you've done, and you find yourself banned from EVE for good.
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I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.02.11 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ghoulia
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Both of you will get banned if CCP finds out about it.
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mogwai
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Posted - 2006.02.11 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Capsicum
To quote the EULA:
"You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account. Joint or shared ownership or use of an Account by more than one user is prohibited."
Says it all, I believe.
Sorry capsicum but i really think CCP have some issues to work out on this one as i quote from the 'my account' section....
Account Ownership:
The original owner of an account is firstly, the owner of the boxed CD key, and in case of online purchase the original creator of an account.
Accounts can not change ownership. If you have received an account second hand, the original owner can still claim ownership of this account.
Note that accounts transferred before May 18th 2004 are exempt from this rule, as account transfers were allowed before that time.
Characters can be transfered through the Character Transfer service, to another valid account. This is the only valid procedure to attain ownership of an character.
Passwords are the responsibility of the account owner. If a shared password leads to abuse of the account, it is the responsibility of the account owner and customer support cannot reimburse the loss.
(NOTE THE LAST PARAGRAPH WHICH TOTALLY CONTRADICTS THE EULA)
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