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Countess Kaladan
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Posted - 2006.02.06 15:03:00 -
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How come there are no EVE novels? I was in the bookstore yesterday and I noticed that there are Star Wars and Star Trek novels, there are Warcraft and Warhammer novels. There are even HALO novels and Dungeons and Dragons novels, but there are no EVE novels sadly. I think it would be awesome to have some EVE novels out. Will CCP allow writers to write EVE novels? I think there is definitely a market for EVE novels, I know I'd buy a ton of them.
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2006.02.06 15:09:00 -
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Short answer is obvious that no one has written any yet. The starwars novels have to be approved for publishing by George Lucas and Co before they can be sold for money due to copywrite. The same is true with CCP and any eve novels to be published for cash since it is their story line.
CCP have been a little busy making the game though so novels have not been high on their priority list. But Tony Gonzales, the guy that wrote the short story Ruthless, has been rumoured to be writing the first novel to be printed and published. Not sure on a timescale though.
In the mean time, maybe check out the fan made eve novel, Barriers. Heck of a good read and still in development. ------
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Vampire Blade
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Posted - 2006.02.06 15:10:00 -
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HellGremlin is the best Eve writer out there. BUT NOW HE'S DEAD!!! ----- ----- -----
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2006.02.06 15:13:00 -
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Yeah, I heard at the FanFest that Tony G was looking into doing an EVE novel. There's certainly enough fiction and inspiration out there to provide backstory for a novel, and I know that many EVE players would buy it. _______________________________________________
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.02.06 15:13:00 -
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"the pirates where sitting at the gate, 30 man strong fleet with a bubble, a shuttle warped in the gloryes battle begon"
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.02.06 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor But Tony Gonzales, the guy that wrote the short story Ruthless, has been rumoured to be writing the first novel to be printed and published. Not sure on a timescale though.
This is not a rumor, Tony Gonzales has been commissioned by CCP to produce an Eve-Online based novel. Work started on the novel in mid-January and you can find out more about the prologue to the novel in Gnauton's forum post.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
He is also wubbly and fluffly, and bald is the new cool thing - Wrangler
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TFer Atvar
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Posted - 2006.02.06 20:49:00 -
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If anyone is looking for a freelance copy editor for anything they're working on, drop me a line.
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Darius Shakor But Tony Gonzales, the guy that wrote the short story Ruthless, has been rumoured to be writing the first novel to be printed and published. Not sure on a timescale though.
This is not a rumor, Tony Gonzales has been commissioned by CCP to produce an Eve-Online based novel. Work started on the novel in mid-January and you can find out more about the prologue to the novel in Gnauton's forum post.
But that's online, I pray for the day I can walk into Borders and see hardback EVE novels with the groovy CCP art.
They could be written about FW, famous war heroes and the like.
...Goddamn that would kickass.
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Malthooz
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Darius Shakor But Tony Gonzales, the guy that wrote the short story Ruthless, has been rumoured to be writing the first novel to be printed and published. Not sure on a timescale though.
This is not a rumor, Tony Gonzales has been commissioned by CCP to produce an Eve-Online based novel. Work started on the novel in mid-January and you can find out more about the prologue to the novel in Gnauton's forum post.
Anychance when it's finished that we can get signed copies, always willing to pay a small premium for one. Of course must have hardback editions
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: TFer Atvar If anyone is looking for a freelance copy editor for anything they're working on, drop me a line.
Hmm, I might have to send you an evemail when I next get logged on to Eve...
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:18:00 -
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Oh and yeah it would be great to be able to get proper printed books. As it stands, I'm just glad we have nice colour laser printers at work for all my printing needs.
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.02.06 22:40:00 -
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Love to see some of these. _______________
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Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.02.07 00:05:00 -
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Hell, City of Hero's has a book out, and their player population is only 40% larger.
2nd one is supposed to be out in a few months too.
i'd LOVE to read an Eve inspired novel. Hope it's large. 4000pages???? :) I read fast.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.02.07 00:21:00 -
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There's something in EON issue 2 about an Eve movie, but not a paperback novel.
Or maybe there was. I can't remember can I! -omg-
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2006.02.07 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Wanoah
Originally by: TFer Atvar If anyone is looking for a freelance copy editor for anything they're working on, drop me a line.
Hmm, I might have to send you an evemail when I next get logged on to Eve...
Get hold of that guy!
@ Kieron: Gnauton's post talks about a short novel to be published in 4 chapters (Prologue + 3 chapters in fact) during february.
Is Tony also working in a 'paper' novel?
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Demangel
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Posted - 2006.02.07 01:52:00 -
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Problemn with doing EVE fiction depends a lot on when you place the novel in the timeline.
Place it in the current time, and there is a lot of stuff you would have to adhere too, and you would need to worry a lot about asking for permission to use character names, and people could sue maybe as it's based on real events (simulated though they may be?).
I dunno interesting question if you ask me... Well ok here is the question I'm beating around the bush about.
Say I wrote a novel about the stuff happening now in my alliance, dramatized the crap out of it with creative liscense, and so on, would I need permission from everyone I reference? Would CCP even pick it up?
I would suspect that novels thus would be about entirely fictional events in EVE, or about pre-current age in the time line. As According to CCP more or less, the current players are for all intents and purposes, "writing" the cannon backstory of the current age of eve as they play it.
Crap that happened in the first year after release is treated this way by CCP, and while not everything that happened is present in the history/timeline, they definately proclaim it as EVE timeline fact now.
Like if they made a new game set a couple hundred years from now, would they refference m0o? Heck even agents reference em in dialogues! Did CCP pay people in m0o to use em this way? did they even have to seeing as everything they did and created are probably property of CCP by way of the EULA?
I know that many games have such clauses, IE if you make a free mod that hits it big, The publisher often has the right to do things with it... Granted in many such situations they buy it from you, but in the case of M0o, was that even an issue? Does CCP consider all our play time as thier property?
If I started up an alliance and somehow managed to conquer EVE, who would have rights over the story that would create? me? or CCP? or would we share it? Would CCP even generously offer to pay me off for all the work I might have put into it?
Heheh, anyway I suppose I'd buy EVE novels, but I would want them to be as true to the game as possible, and if set in current eve timeline, I would expect to be able to fact check much of the events and see corelation if not exact adherance... I don't mean exactly strict rule/mechanic adherance ("Demangel activated a warp scrambler onthe enemy, adding two points of scrambler strength, and fired his blasters each doing upwards of 65 damage per hit every 2 seconds...")... But rather, if I get into a fight with a guy as the above line states, and win, Iwouldn't want to read about how I lost LOL.
Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit.
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.02.07 03:42:00 -
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I think if any books were to be written on EVE, they would be written about the Empires and referenced to chronicles. The characters would probably be controlled by AURORA.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.02.07 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Demangel
Place it in the current time, and there is a lot of stuff you would have to adhere too, and you would need to worry a lot about asking for permission to use character names, and people could sue maybe as it's based on real events (simulated though they may be?).
What you are describing is one of the fundamental features of writing in someone else's world. What we have in Eve is a populated, living world - yet it is impossible to know all that much about it. If I was writing a story set in the real world and I was writing about a couple of people having a meal, I could either just write from my own experiences of food or research by popping out to a restaurant. If I was writing the same scene in a scifi novel, I could just make some stuff up on the fly about the Arcturian Melongrapes they had for starters. Set the scene in the Caldari State, however, and you get instant jitters - you have to research it. What do people eat in Eve? What can we infer from the descriptions of the agricultural corps? What can we learn from the trade goods? Are there any references in the chronicles? You have a fair amount of leeway, of course, but write anything that contradicts any existing information, and you'll have people pointing it out straight away.
Writing about other players' characters can also be a bit of a tightrope. On the one hand, most people are quite pleased to be included in a story. On the other hand, when people have put some thought into what their characters are like, there's a lot of potential for misrepresenting them and it blowing up in your face.
Writing about an earlier period in Eve is ideal in many respects. You have to spend some time inferring what the past might have been like from present-day Eve, but other than that, you have something approaching a blank canvas.
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Saeris Tal'Urduar
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Posted - 2006.02.07 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Demangel Problemn with doing EVE fiction depends a lot on when you place the novel in the timeline.
Place it in the current time, and there is a lot of stuff you would have to adhere too, and you would need to worry a lot about asking for permission to use character names, and people could sue maybe as it's based on real events (simulated though they may be?).
I'm sure your character and its name belongs to CCP, so thats not a problem.
Me personaly, I think its a bad idea to use real characters from the game in a book. Either the person is going to feel they were portrayed wrong or they're going to insist the author portary them a certain way, thus interfering with the authors ideas. Although I do like the idea of a book based on the current time line and events.
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Sebastien LaForge
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Posted - 2006.02.07 23:15:00 -
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Personally, I'm looking more towards EVE ship models than books, not that I wouldn't buy one anyways.
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