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Samor Madur
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Posted - 2006.02.27 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Samor Madur on 27/02/2006 16:36:07
The best fiction ever! Makes me proud to be a part of this game and community. The story telling is perfect and to get to know EVE history like this is awsome. Thanks CCP.
Just hope we get to see the Omega chapter. Feeling there is still much to write about.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2006.02.27 17:14:00 -
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A GREAT read...
It seems we are all being 'played'
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DazWozUK
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Posted - 2006.02.27 17:15:00 -
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Awsome read. Had to switch my phone off at work didn't want any distractions.
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SpaceDrake Storyteller
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Posted - 2006.02.27 22:30:00 -
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It is teh Monday. Where's Omega?
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What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:39:00 -
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these new enemies of the jove any plans to take things further ? could they be direct old earth descandants.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:52:00 -
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Awesome, awesome. Really not bad. Want more!
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:56:00 -
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Stop teasing me Gnauton you bad bad man. Epilllloooooggguuuuueeee please.
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Rise.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:58:00 -
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*pokes Gnauton.
Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
P.S. Total area size was a little over too  |
Sam Trip
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Posted - 2006.03.01 03:25:00 -
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what is omega?
And btw terrific work to Tony Gonzales! Such quality its things such as these serials which sometimes keeps me playing eve believe it or not! Do wonder what the next story will be about. First the production of the raven, now the prelude of the battle vak atioth and the events surrounding. What will be next!? simply amazing stuff. *crosses fingers for more fiction surrounding "the order"*
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Frezik
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Posted - 2006.03.01 05:32:00 -
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The way I see it, this paves the way for Joves to enter the game with playable characters and equiptment. The problem that has been nagging me about them is that they're uber and everyone wants to be one. It ends up looking very similar to the Jedi Problem in SWG.
If we had another race that was on par or superior to the Jove, it might allow game balance to be maintained.
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"Well in this case, he's being flamed, and rightly so, for whinning about a game mechanic that doesn't actually exist." -Lorth |
Kylania
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Posted - 2006.03.01 05:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Sam Trip
what is omega?
Alpha and Omega, beginning and end. :) There was a Alpha "prelude" section and there appears there should have been an Omega "epilogue" section as well. Gnauton seemed to indicate it would be published on Monday, but nothing yet.
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Valen L'eganas
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:04:00 -
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 OMG
What a great read!!!
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Kayleene
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Posted - 2006.03.01 16:51:00 -
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As with Ruthless this is a supreme job. I have enjoyed reading every line, and you great attention to details.
I only have one problem though, it's to short! I WANT MORE!
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Duty is everything. The greatest of joys, the deepest of sorrows. |
ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.03.01 17:26:00 -
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Desperately waiting on omega :)
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran |
Gnauton
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Posted - 2006.03.01 18:59:00 -
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There it is, finally. Our graphic designer is on leave right now, so I've been having to pester him at home to get the final aggregated PDF. Hope the wait hasn't been too interminable. |
Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.03.01 19:04:00 -
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Thanks Gnauton, and thanks to the graphic designer for doing some work on your day off. o7
Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.01 19:22:00 -
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pwnage.
'nuff said.
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Originally by: Abdalion
Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2006.03.02 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: Herko Kerghans on 02/03/2006 01:14:37
We are not worthy.
And yet,
Originally by: Teh Gnauton
we look forward to presenting you with more EVE lore and fiction in the weeks and months to come.
we are unsatiable, and we're taking your word for it! MORE! 
(And thanks a lot for this effort Tony, Gnauton, and the poor artist that got nailed in his day off putting the last batch together!)
Barriers - an EVE novel |
SpaceDrake Storyteller
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Posted - 2006.03.02 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Herko Kerghans
we are unsatiable, and we're taking your word for it! MORE!
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What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?
Player of the character "Andre Ricard". |
ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.03.02 10:59:00 -
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\o/
Left me hungry for more though 
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran |
Aeon Valerii
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Posted - 2006.03.03 18:19:00 -
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Awesome end. We want more!
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I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar. |
Ms Freak
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Posted - 2006.03.03 21:37:00 -
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Awsome.
Simply Awsome.
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Za Po
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Posted - 2006.03.04 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Frezik
The way I see it, this paves the way for Joves to enter the game with playable characters and equiptment. The problem that has been nagging me about them is that they're uber and everyone wants to be one. It ends up looking very similar to the Jedi Problem in SWG.
If we had another race that was on par or superior to the Jove, it might allow game balance to be maintained.
It would make game balance into "balance between the Jove and the other race", leaving the four current races in the dust.
No, what I think would be better is the following - Joves are not better than the other races. By the time they are released, their ships aren't much better than top-of-the-line empire ships either. You can't choose to be a Jove at character creation; rather, a PC can eventually become a Jove through genetic modification.
By making a Jove PC something somewhat hard to get and not much better, you would keep their numbers low.
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Do you have a solution to the BM and instas problem? Test it against the bookmark requirements. |
Esurnir
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Posted - 2006.03.05 00:58:00 -
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Absolutly remarkable work. Awsome.
So we know better about who is the traitor who condemn our navy in the jove/amarr war. That's also learns us why they finaly became unaccessible.
Well too bad Faus died :(. He would have done a wonderfull emperor. Well this story make me thinking if a sarum member was not at the origine of the Doriam Assassinations.
P.S. There must be something else that make us unable to conquer the jove territories. Or try to allow us to come into it. Because more than logically we CAN jump into. How ? Remember jumpdrive ? We don't need ANYMORE the stargate, we just need to focus the jumpdrive of a titan (let's say the remaining Avatar class Titan sleeping in a dark hangar of the Amarr Navy) on one of the gravitic signature of the jove's sun and WOOSH. Here come the reclaiming.
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Brain Basher
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Posted - 2006.03.05 15:56:00 -
[145]
Incredible Story
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Samor Madur
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Posted - 2006.03.05 23:10:00 -
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The end. Now give us more
This is great, one year after being born in EVE i now know something about our universe history. Great job!
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Frezik
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Posted - 2006.03.06 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Za Po
You can't choose to be a Jove at character creation; rather, a PC can eventually become a Jove through genetic modification.
By making a Jove PC something somewhat hard to get and not much better, you would keep their numbers low.
Unless there are hard caps on the precentage of players allowed to become Jove (which is a very artificial restriction), you won't be able to keep large swaths of players from doing it.
Have you ever played SWG? You'll sometimes hear players saying that it's too easy to become Jedi. It's not true, though, and I think it's important to study the reasons why whenever an MMORPG wants to keep a certain player class rare. Here's how you became a Jedi when the game was released:
There are about 30 professions (far less with recent changes). When your character is created, 5 professions are chosen at random, though you aren't told what they are. If you get the master level in all 5, the Jedi profession will open up to you. Holocrons (fairly rare items) will tell you what one of the professions is, though they'll never tell you the last one. Some professions have a prerequisite profession (like you need to master Artisian before becoming a Droid Engineer), so you can't necessarily grind one straight profession at a time.
Once players learned how to optimize grinding each profession, you could often master each profession in a few hours. However, it'd be a very boaring few hours, tediously clicking the same sets of buttons over and over, or attacking the same spawns, etc. Basically, the same types of players who happily jet mine Veldspar for hours and hours could easily become Jedi in a few weeks on this system.
So the fast path to Jedi is boring and in all fairness, I would have thought myself that this grind path would be enough to keep Jedi rare. But Jedi actually became very common. Additionally, it caused markets to crash as Jedi grinding the crafting professions would sometimes toss their wares on the market at a loss, making it impossible for players who really wanted to be crafters to be profitable, especially at the more basic levels.
The Jedi path was later turned into a quest-based system. I left the game not long after that (over other issues), but it's hard to tell if a quest-based system would have worked better if it was that way from the start. I don't think anything would have fixed the Jedi problem once they already became common. (That's not quite true. I'm sure the recent mass-exodus of SWG players has made Jedi rare  ).
The big lesson in this is that if you give an uber-powerful item/ability/class/whatever that a lot of players want, it is easy to underestimate the resolve of players to get it. At the game's introduction, the profession-based Jedi system should have been, by all reasonable predictions, enough to keep Jedi rare. But the evidence that came later clearly showed that it wasn't.
This is a difficult problem to solve in a natural way. Any hard cap on numbers will seem unfair to players (see also: any t2 BPO thread). Anything that requires constant grinding will be overcome by players who are currently jet mining veld for many hours a day (and anyone else with a similar mentality).
IMHO, if we can't keep the Jove population low, then the next best option is to balance them against something else and then allow anybody to become Jove (or Jove's enimies).
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"Well in this case, he's being flamed, and rightly so, for whinning about a game mechanic that doesn't actually exist." -Lorth |
Cree Austinteen
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:43:00 -
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The order are oviously people from people from earth the jove jsut don't know it. It would make sense since i don't see any other way for them to have such advanced technology since the joves achieved spaceflight again after jsut three centuries. Unless there aliens. Perhaps the people who created the solar system in which all it's plants are habitable to organic life.
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