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Sean Parisi
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Posted - 2013.10.30 03:55:00 -
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Simple, if you are using a stabilized frigate or a ship that has a cloak on it you cannot run the timer, nor do you gain any LP should you be in range of someone completing the timer.
This allows for legitimate tactics (if you are using cloaks for an ambush you are there to kill and not farm), while nullifying the cheese tactics used by farmers. Of course they can still align out and warp away, but they risk being committed as well. |
Sean Parisi
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Posted - 2013.10.30 04:16:00 -
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Warp Disruption field stops you from boomeranging your enemy quickly. (Warping away from the plex and then back to the gate to catch people on the outside)
Also it would open up alot of abuse. I would in particular fit webs and no warp disruptor. - as there would be no need for one. Tackling should be the job of the player. This would not fix farming completely, but it would stop the abuse of Warp Core stabilizers and cloaks. It forces a farmer to at least pay attention and learn how to use D-Scan. Not just sit there, wait for me to point them and then run away. If they do not pay attention they will be pointed and killed.
I agree that there should be no security hit for engaging within a plex. Atleast to FW players. |
Sean Parisi
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Posted - 2013.10.30 04:54:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:timer resets - if you cloak or run the timer resets
Agreed with this idea completely as well. Still think core stabs and cloaks should not be able to run the plexes though. (though they can enter and fight in them) |
Sean Parisi
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Posted - 2013.10.30 05:48:00 -
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Exactly. I believe that if we were to ban the use of Stabilizers and Cloaks that it would be taking away from the "Freedom" aspect. But at the same time I believe there should be consequences for this level of risk aversion. Cloaks and Stabs would still be useable, but not profitable. So if you were to set up a recon cloak gank gang it would still enter the plex but be unable to run the button. That being said you wouldn't want to run the button with a setup like that anyways.
Because of this I believe it will at the very least force farmers to focus on D-Scan and align out. They will still farm, but if they screw up they will be running away in a Pod. Reason I would have them also be ineligible for LP on top of it?
Well, once they realize they cant run the timer themselves, they will wait for real players to run the timer down and swoop in to take the LP. So screw those guys. |
Sean Parisi
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Posted - 2013.11.03 22:41:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:Why exactly are stabbed farmers a problem? People with stabs purposely gimp their fits in order to do one specific thing: disengaging. There is no rule that states that you need to take a fight. Isn't the sandbox what eve is about? If someone choses to fly something that is terrible at fighting but really good at running, where's the problem? Instead of complaining, adapt. Some of you are bigger carebears than the farmers, jesus
You don't need stabs or cloak to escape a plex. Most descent players will he pre-aligned if their sole duty is to farm, the difference is that they cannot twiddle their thumbs and waste peoples time by fitting stabs or cloaking up. It goes against the entire idea of Factional Warfare and is counter productive - this is a change that would not eliminate farming, but would discourage some of these tactics.
Essentially you shouldn't "Have" to take the fight, but if you have absolutely 0 intent of fighting then why should you benefit from a system that is solely based around PvP? Run the FW missions instead. At the end of the day I am indifferent as to whether this would actually get implemented or not, but it would reduce the amount of BS that fills up this forum about farming. |
Sean Parisi
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Posted - 2013.11.05 07:36:00 -
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Just to clarify - My proposition is not to "Ban" cloaks or warp core stabilizers. Under this idea you would still be able to essentially bring them into a plex, whether it is to bait, trap, etc. But if you must fit those to your ship, you make yourself ineligible to receiving FW LP from the PLEX or to run down the timer unless someone else without them comes into the PLEX.
People can still PvP on their own terms. But the point of FW at its core is a mechanic that encourages conflict. Both of these tools are counter intuitive to that and should not provide farmers with rewards. People would still be able to farm - They could easily align out and click warp whenever they would want to. But atleast they would have to pay attention. |
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