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Chane Miller
Blood Eagle Federation Now You See me
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Posted - 2013.11.04 04:59:00 -
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Since Dust is Free to play (No subsciption like us eve players) I find it totally unfair. CCP spent cash earned by eve subciptions developing a FPS and gives it away for free to PS3 players. Why not scrap Dust entirely? I figure that the money used to develop it could have been used to make subscription cheaper. Also I figure Dust players use bandwidth which we also pay for... Also PS3 really? Would have made sense if eve was available for PS3- Why not a pc version so we eve players can play it. |
eatsbabies cienfuegos
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.04 07:15:00 -
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i'm not going to go into how you're not that smart.
but I would like to say that you need to do some research so you don't look so stupid on the internets.
also, you're 2 and 14 lifetime... maybe go get into a fight if you really want to be a part of this community. |
Robert J Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.11.04 08:41:00 -
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Wait! You can play EVE Online for free too! Just earn ~600mil ISK, buy PLEX straight off the market, apply it to your account and you'r free to go. Enjoy and you'r welcome thank you very much
DUST beeing F2P means it's not devoid of temptations to spent AUR ($$$) on stuff. There is lot's of items you can buy for AUR. Like skill points boosters being the best example. And dustbunnies are buying it. The most looked for are 30-day Omega boosters. Active and passive. They give two times more skill points per unit of time compared to no boosters. You can apply them to your alts. One omega booster costs 65,000 AUR (~$35). Multiply it by two (active + passive). It's more than 1 month EVE subscription fee. Fueling DUST development in some part. Explain this...
Below is link to DUST AUR stuff in PS3 store. It should adjust prices automatically to your location. If not ,divide quotes by 3.3 (approx. PLN to USD exchange rate) https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/pl-pl/gry/dust-514-free-to-play/cid=EP5018-NPEB00777_00-DUST514EVEONLINE%3AADD-ONS F.E.A.R. stands for False Expectations Assumed Real More gems here: http://www.mannymolecular.com/mind-emotion/42-exploring-fear |
Natalia Rho
not in a corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.04 14:15:00 -
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I spent more money on Dust then I have on most any other video game. I bought all the packs with the unique BPOs, sometimes more than once. I probably spent upwards of $400-$500. Buying the more pricey bundle packs doesn't seem that unusual either from the equipment you see in game.
Since they're eliminating BPOs from the market, I don't see myself spending anymore. I think I've already spent the equivalent of the sticker price for many brand new games though.
Take that as you will. |
Craterius
Symple Onez
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Posted - 2013.11.04 22:25:00 -
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i'm not going to go into how you're not that smart.
but I would like to say that you need to do some research so you don't look so stupid on the internet
Your comment is moronic. Why dont you just try answering the OP's question? Are you really 12 years old?
For starters, part of the answer is that the CEO of CCP has bet the farm on Dust. His job and his bonuses depend upon Dust turning into a financial success. Unfortunately, Dust is a fundamentally flawed concept - meld a bunch of 12 year olds playing a FPS on their PS3's, with Eve, a sophisticated game with a large learning curve played by adults on the PC.
EvE is being dummied down to try to make it palatable to the PS3 guys who are looking for an easy to play FPS.
We will see if this works out. In the meantime, that is the reason that EvE income is being used to try to generate a successful Dust community. |
eatsbabies cienfuegos
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.04 22:38:00 -
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Craterius wrote:i'm not going to go into how you're not that smart.
but I would like to say that you need to do some research so you don't look so stupid on the internet
Your comment is moronic. Why dont you just try answering the OP's question? Are you really 12 years old?
For starters, part of the answer is that the CEO of CCP has bet the farm on Dust. His job and his bonuses depend upon Dust turning into a financial success. Unfortunately, Dust is a fundamentally flawed concept - meld a bunch of 12 year olds playing a FPS on their PS3's, with Eve, a sophisticated game with a large learning curve played by adults on the PC.
EvE is being dummied down to try to make it palatable to the PS3 guys who are looking for an easy to play FPS.
We will see if this works out. In the meantime, that is the reason that EvE income is being used to try to generate a successful Dust community.
okay: first things first the micro-transaction concept is working like a charm. make no mistake.
eve players aren't forced to pay a subscription fee. they pay a subscription fee if it's not worth their time to make the isk to plex their accounts.
ps3 because sony isn't a tyrant with their server structure.
for you specifically: you've been in 20 fights in your whole life. what makes you think you should chime in on this thread?
if I take it personally that some jagoff wants to scrap the game I started playing eve for, well that's just a monkey on my back. if anyone is going to talk about scrapping dust, then they should have a proper killboard in eve.
no one takes a carebear seriously.
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Scarlett Engaged
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
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Posted - 2013.11.05 02:36:00 -
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eatsbabies cienfuegos wrote:Craterius wrote:i'm not going to go into how you're not that smart.
but I would like to say that you need to do some research so you don't look so stupid on the internet
Your comment is moronic. Why dont you just try answering the OP's question? Are you really 12 years old?
For starters, part of the answer is that the CEO of CCP has bet the farm on Dust. His job and his bonuses depend upon Dust turning into a financial success. Unfortunately, Dust is a fundamentally flawed concept - meld a bunch of 12 year olds playing a FPS on their PS3's, with Eve, a sophisticated game with a large learning curve played by adults on the PC.
EvE is being dummied down to try to make it palatable to the PS3 guys who are looking for an easy to play FPS.
We will see if this works out. In the meantime, that is the reason that EvE income is being used to try to generate a successful Dust community. okay: first things first the micro-transaction concept is working like a charm. make no mistake. eve players aren't forced to pay a subscription fee. they pay a subscription fee if it's not worth their time to make the isk to plex their accounts. ps3 because sony isn't a tyrant with their server structure. for you specifically: you've been in 20 fights in your whole life. what makes you think you should chime in on this thread? if I take it personally that some jagoff wants to scrap the game I started playing eve for, well that's just a monkey on my back. if anyone is going to talk about scrapping dust, then they should have a proper killboard in eve. no one takes a carebear seriously.
Explain to me how a killboard in a game is relevant to someone's knowledge of corporate marketing? I am very thankful you are limited to just posting moronic childish comments on a forums page and not in some position inside CCP. |
eatsbabies cienfuegos
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.05 21:36:00 -
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Scarlett Engaged wrote:eatsbabies cienfuegos wrote:Craterius wrote:i'm not going to go into how you're not that smart.
but I would like to say that you need to do some research so you don't look so stupid on the internet
Your comment is moronic. Why dont you just try answering the OP's question? Are you really 12 years old?
For starters, part of the answer is that the CEO of CCP has bet the farm on Dust. His job and his bonuses depend upon Dust turning into a financial success. Unfortunately, Dust is a fundamentally flawed concept - meld a bunch of 12 year olds playing a FPS on their PS3's, with Eve, a sophisticated game with a large learning curve played by adults on the PC.
EvE is being dummied down to try to make it palatable to the PS3 guys who are looking for an easy to play FPS.
We will see if this works out. In the meantime, that is the reason that EvE income is being used to try to generate a successful Dust community. okay: first things first the micro-transaction concept is working like a charm. make no mistake. eve players aren't forced to pay a subscription fee. they pay a subscription fee if it's not worth their time to make the isk to plex their accounts. ps3 because sony isn't a tyrant with their server structure. for you specifically: you've been in 20 fights in your whole life. what makes you think you should chime in on this thread? if I take it personally that some jagoff wants to scrap the game I started playing eve for, well that's just a monkey on my back. if anyone is going to talk about scrapping dust, then they should have a proper killboard in eve. no one takes a carebear seriously. Explain to me how a killboard in a game is relevant to someone's knowledge of corporate marketing? I am very thankful you are limited to just posting moronic childish comments on a forums page and not in some position inside CCP.
there is no 'non-pvp' mode in dust 514. let the pvp folk discuss a pvp game, if that's alright.
if we're going to have a discussion about corporate marketing we're in the wrong forum all together, i'd say.
eve is spending money making dust 514 to get more people to play eve, and to get more people informed about eve online. if you don't think that's already working, then you're not paying attention. if you don't think that ccp is trying to build dust 514 to make eve online even cooler, then you're not considering the longevity of eve.
dust can't be anything but a good recruiting device for eve online. |
MidnightWyvern
SergalJerk Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:36:00 -
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Chane Miller wrote:Since Dust is Free to play (No subsciption like us eve players) I find it totally unfair. CCP spent cash earned by eve subciptions developing a FPS and gives it away for free to PS3 players. Why not scrap Dust entirely? I figure that the money used to develop it could have been used to make subscription cheaper. Also I figure Dust players use bandwidth which we also pay for... Also PS3 really? Would have made sense if eve was available for PS3- Why not a pc version so we eve players can play it. Yet another brainless post. I feel like my IQ drops whenever I read these. |
Ugh Reset
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.06 17:02:00 -
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eatsbabies cienfuegos wrote:Scarlett Engaged wrote:eatsbabies cienfuegos wrote:Craterius wrote:i'm not going to go into how you're not that smart.
but I would like to say that you need to do some research so you don't look so stupid on the internet
Your comment is moronic. Why dont you just try answering the OP's question? Are you really 12 years old?
For starters, part of the answer is that the CEO of CCP has bet the farm on Dust. His job and his bonuses depend upon Dust turning into a financial success. Unfortunately, Dust is a fundamentally flawed concept - meld a bunch of 12 year olds playing a FPS on their PS3's, with Eve, a sophisticated game with a large learning curve played by adults on the PC.
EvE is being dummied down to try to make it palatable to the PS3 guys who are looking for an easy to play FPS.
We will see if this works out. In the meantime, that is the reason that EvE income is being used to try to generate a successful Dust community. okay: first things first the micro-transaction concept is working like a charm. make no mistake. eve players aren't forced to pay a subscription fee. they pay a subscription fee if it's not worth their time to make the isk to plex their accounts. ps3 because sony isn't a tyrant with their server structure. for you specifically: you've been in 20 fights in your whole life. what makes you think you should chime in on this thread? if I take it personally that some jagoff wants to scrap the game I started playing eve for, well that's just a monkey on my back. if anyone is going to talk about scrapping dust, then they should have a proper killboard in eve. no one takes a carebear seriously. Explain to me how a killboard in a game is relevant to someone's knowledge of corporate marketing? I am very thankful you are limited to just posting moronic childish comments on a forums page and not in some position inside CCP. there is no 'non-pvp' mode in dust 514. let the pvp folk discuss a pvp game, if that's alright. if we're going to have a discussion about corporate marketing we're in the wrong forum all together, i'd say. eve is spending money making dust 514 to get more people to play eve, and to get more people informed about eve online. if you don't think that's already working, then you're not paying attention. if you don't think that ccp is trying to build dust 514 to make eve online even cooler, then you're not considering the longevity of eve. dust can't be anything but a good recruiting device for eve online.
I'm proof of this. Prior to Dust I knew nothing about EVE except that it was some cheesy MMO off some obscure banner ad that might give me a virus. |
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RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:55:00 -
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So many of you white knighting this horrible game called Dust. OP has a very good point. If Dust is so great why not make it a sub Game and make EVE F2P. Yeah thats what I thought. The only reason Dust is F2P is because nobody would play it if it had a sub. As for the micro trans of Dust, You are an idiot if you actually spend RL cash on a game that has no future and will eventually be discontinued but a fool and his money will always be departed. What a waste of CCP's time and resources for a horrible game.
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eatsbabies cienfuegos
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.09 16:58:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:So many of you white knighting this horrible game called Dust. OP has a very good point. If Dust is so great why not make it a sub Game and make EVE F2P. Yeah thats what I thought. The only reason Dust is F2P is because nobody would play it if it had a sub. As for the micro trans of Dust, You are an idiot if you actually spend RL cash on a game that has no future and will eventually be discontinued but a fool and his money will always be departed. What a waste of CCP's time and resources for a horrible game.
it seems like you're wasting forum resources with horrible posts. ccp's not asking you to shut your stupid mouth, now are they? |
Zaruda
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.10 11:33:00 -
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Chane Miller wrote:Since Dust is Free to play (No subsciption like us eve players) I find it totally unfair. CCP spent cash earned by eve subciptions developing a FPS and gives it away for free to PS3 players. Why not scrap Dust entirely? I figure that the money used to develop it could have been used to make subscription cheaper. Also I figure Dust players use bandwidth which we also pay for... Also PS3 really? Would have made sense if eve was available for PS3- Why not a pc version so we eve players can play it. Well let me start out be saying I have played DUST since April. True you can play DUST for free, but you will find yourself falling behind in both isk and sp. The way that CCP has it set up is that you have to pay to keep up like $300 over 6 months. Now that we are over that, CCP went with the F2P/P2W concept because all the new MMOs are going down this run for the micro transactions vs subscription because there is more money to be made that way.
Also as a Dust player if CCP charged a Sub. for DUST the already dwindling 3500 players would be cut in atleast half IMHO. This is because consel players have a more shorter attention span, and the game is still missing the basic suits, weapons, and vehicles. All in all again IMHO I don't think CCP can charge a Sub. for that game till they actually complete the basic part of it. |
Aeligos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:24:00 -
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I can't wait to play Dust.
I need a console first... however....but soon, real soon I'll be buying one. |
Tarn Ellecon
KEQ Industrial Complex ROFL Citizens
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Posted - 2013.11.16 03:31:00 -
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Chane Miller wrote:Since Dust is Free to play (No subsciption like us eve players) I find it totally unfair. CCP spent cash earned by eve subciptions developing a FPS and gives it away for free to PS3 players. Why not scrap Dust entirely? I figure that the money used to develop it could have been used to make subscription cheaper. Also I figure Dust players use bandwidth which we also pay for... Also PS3 really? Would have made sense if eve was available for PS3- Why not a pc version so we eve players can play it.
LOL people who pay to play Dust have spend way more than EVE players. Also take into account they they have a separate Dust development team that doesn't take resources away from the EVE team, mostly just World of Darkness. I'd also like to add what makes you feel so entitled that another game shouldn't exist because you can't or don't want to play it? The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war. SoonGäó514 |
xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:59:00 -
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lets apply this same thought process elsewhere.
Wa Bioware stop making other games and make a perfect DA:O
Damn you blizzard and all your off-shoot games make the next warcraft RTS
EA give us a real command and conquer instead of a new madden need for speed or anything else
Do you realize how stupid you sound complaining about a companies attempt to branch out and make more profits from a larger group or industry?
Most of dust was funded just as much by sony for the exclusive rights as CCP. Add in micro transactions and Dust has been a great success. I expect CCP to continue to support the ps3 version for the next 2 years. They i expect a PS4 version of some type.
Basically they have too much time and storyline tied into it now to just axe it. On top of the fact if it truly gets 100% integrated it will be amazing.
The problem is the adhd generation of fps players right now will only play a game for 6 months till the next FPS comes out. This game is for a smaller audiance then what you are used to. Think MAG, SOCOM or a space ish battlefield then COD. |
Dextrome Thorphan
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.27 09:41:00 -
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Natalia Rho wrote:I spent more money on Dust then I have on most any other video game. I bought all the packs with the unique BPOs, sometimes more than once. I probably spent upwards of $400-$500. Buying the more pricey bundle packs doesn't seem that unusual either from the equipment you see in game.
Since they're eliminating BPOs from the market, I don't see myself spending anymore. I think I've already spent the equivalent of the sticker price for many brand new games though.
Take that as you will.
the F.... you spent $500 on a beta? |
Dextrome Thorphan
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.27 09:42:00 -
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Ugh Reset wrote:Prior to Dust I knew nothing about EVE except that it was some cheesy MMO off some obscure banner ad that might give me a virus.
LOL... where have you been for the past 10 years? Not playing online games I guess :) |
Seriously Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.11.27 21:47:00 -
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Dextrome Thorphan wrote:the F.... you spent $500 on a beta?
And he isn't the only one, by a long shot.
Dust isn't subsidized by EVE players. It's subsidized by a small amount of Dust players with either huge bank accounts or poor impulse control. |
Captain Cromwell
CROMWELL Cargo Logistics
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Posted - 2013.11.28 08:20:00 -
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Aeligos wrote:I can't wait to play Dust.
I need a console first... however....but soon, real soon I'll be buying one. hey, you look like one of these guys:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OuWM7kOWQM8/SpiCUD7133I/AAAAAAAAB_A/JiQeTdFHT4M/s400/charmedwishes.jpg
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kongking wang
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:31:00 -
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its not your money, you pay ccp for a service. thats as far as your contribution goes. you seem to forget ccp gives you free expansions. where do you think they come from...thin air. you get your freebies and so does dust. live with it
also you could reasonably assume ccp wanted eve to go f2p at one point with the implementation AUR and we know how badly that trial ended. its now just a wasted bit of coding hardly anyone uses |
Dkamanus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.03 05:51:00 -
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I, for one, am greatly waiting for it to hit the PC (which it will, eventually).
Why they are still keeping it on the PS3? They need to keep putting stuff in it, while they have avid players on consoles, their player base on PC would never allow a lower quality version of EVE coming online and tarnishing its name. They are using the PS3 crew as a Beta, and once ALL systems are in place, then a PC port (with subscriptions instead of shop) might be viable.
Hell, if they can make the impossible thing of actually integrating DUST 514 to EVE Online, while the shooter part is actually quite good, they'd win LOTS AND LOTS OF SUBSCRIPTIONS IN THE PROCESS! Think of it. EVE isn't the easiest of games to play, and it's spreadsheets in space do turn off a lot of people. What better way to attract MORE people to a space game with OTHER activities, like SHOOTING PEOPLE IN THE FACE FOR AN ALLIANCE?
They arlready run two different engines in the EVE game, what's stopping them of making a third engine run on it too?
Give it some time. Maybe a LOT of time. But it will come. |
Gerald Sphinx
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:37:00 -
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Every time I read the Eve Forums, it feels like I'm reading the Dust forums.
Every time I read the Dust forums, it fees like I'm reading the Eve forums. |
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