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Marus Sulla
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Posted - 2006.02.10 12:25:00 -
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All,
Is it possible to get your refining skills so good they go above 100%?
I have seen in other (manufacturing) threads talk of manufacturing efficency getting players 100%+
i.e. production minerals required less than the quoted standard for an item.
This would be completely seperate to the tax applied by a station, which i understand your standing can reduce.
Thanks
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.02.10 12:30:00 -
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No.
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2006.02.10 13:07:00 -
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for some reason, i can't get my refining skills above 99.5%. But apparently 100% is possiable.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.10 13:13:00 -
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5/5/1 refining gives you 100%. -- Proud member of the [23].
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Elah'n'matir
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Posted - 2006.02.10 13:15:00 -
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Actually, the best base refining skill you can have is 49.5%. Add to that the highest possible station bonus (50%), and you get at 99.5%. To go above that, you will need to train the ore specific skills (Veldspar Processing, etc.), so you can refine that particular ore more efficiently.
Hope this helps.
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Kodan Ajex
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Posted - 2006.02.10 13:24:00 -
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you also need to take in to account station tax which is affected by you standing with the station owner the higher the standing the less they take you can get the tax rate to 0% with a high enough standing
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Elah'n'matir
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Posted - 2006.02.10 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kodan Ajex you also need to take in to account station tax which is affected by you standing with the station owner the higher the standing the less they take you can get the tax rate to 0% with a high enough standing
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Tom Tarn
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Posted - 2006.02.10 14:13:00 -
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IIRC scrap metal processing can take you over 100% at a 50% station for reprocessed items. But you only get 100% not more.
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2006.02.10 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari 5/5/1 refining gives you 100%.
i have 5/5/4 in every rare roid, but i'm short 0.5%
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.10 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: pshepherd
Originally by: Dark Shikari 5/5/1 refining gives you 100%.
i have 5/5/4 in every rare roid, but i'm short 0.5%
At a 50% station? That sounds like a bug. -- Proud member of the [23].
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Jacyro
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Posted - 2006.02.10 18:15:00 -
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It must be a bug. I have 5/4/2 in everything up to Jaspet and I get 100% refine (minus taxes) at all 50% stations I use. ----------------------------------------------- "Eve is a sandbox. Pick up a shovel and make yourself a castle."
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GC13
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Posted - 2006.02.10 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: pshepherd i have 5/5/4 in every rare roid, but i'm short 0.5%
Look more closely at the refinining screen. It tells you quite clearly that the 99.5% it says you're getting does not include any specialty refinining skills (I believe Veldspar Processing is the example it uses).
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SonoA
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Posted - 2006.03.29 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: SonoA on 29/03/2006 08:00:17 I believe that these are the two calculations used during refining and reprocessing.
Efficiency (%)= Station Efficiency + (37.5*(1+(Refining*0.02))*(1+(Refining Efficiency*0.04))*(1+(Ore Refinery*0.05))) Example : Efficiency = 50+(37.5*(1+(5*0.02))*(1+(3*0.04))*(1+(2*0.05))) = 100.82 % = 100 %
Station Take (%) = 5-(Standing*0.75) Example: Station Take = 5-(2.56*0.75) = 3.08 %
Look here for an example of how the 'rounddown-error' in station tax could be used in your advantage :)
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