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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
670
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:24:00 -
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Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2074
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:29:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.
Buy a Mining Permit. You can find out how on www.minerbumping.com |
adarma
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:29:00 -
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High sec being safe is an urban legend. |
Anomaly One
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:29:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
HOW DARE YOU!!
CS 1.6 !!!!!! |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
667
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:31:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.
Your first wrong impression is to think Hi-Sec is supposedly safe. Your second is your assumption that this isn't the game CCP designed. It's exactly what they designed, and people are using as it is designed. Your final wrong assumption is you think the game is broke in this aspect of the game. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
670
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:34:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken. Buy a Mining Permit. You can find out how on www.minerbumping.com Lmao, I haven't mined since I mined for my first Tempest in 2003... one week of non-stop mining was enough to cure me for life.
Nah its freaking rediculous. WTF should I sit at my PC in high sec making 24 jumps from Jita to Rens just in case some douche alt wants to blow up my shuttle and pod me for lolz. Feck that. But I have to.
I started a new account the other day and autopiloted it to Jita to act as a market alt, 30 minutes old, it was podded before it got halfway there ffs. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2077
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:36:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken. Buy a Mining Permit. You can find out how on www.minerbumping.com Lmao, I haven't mined since I mined for my first Tempest in 2003... one week of non-stop mining was enough to cure me for life. Nah its freaking rediculous. WTF should I sit at my PC in high sec making 24 jumps from Jita to Rens just in case some douche alt wants to blow up my shuttle and pod me for lolz. Feck that. But I have to. I started a new account the other day and autopiloted it to Jita to act as a market alt, 30 minutes old, it was podded before it got halfway there ffs.
No bot aspirant is safe, not even you. Honor the Code, or agents will find you. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
670
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:37:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken. Your first wrong impression is to think Hi-Sec is supposedly safe. Your second is your assumption that this isn't the game CCP designed. It's exactly what they designed, and people are using as it is designed. Your final wrong assumption is you think the game is broke in this aspect of the game. Your wrong impression is you think you know what you're talking about. Like I said I've been here since 2003. I have seen the buffs and nerfs that CCP used to make to adjust for dps creep and other factors when ganking got too much.
I also was around at the time of the Zombie incident in Yulai and read the post made by the lead dev at the time, the original lead dev, who stated "high sec is supposed to be relatively safe"...
Not "high sec is counterstrike in space".
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2077
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:39:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken. Your first wrong impression is to think Hi-Sec is supposedly safe. Your second is your assumption that this isn't the game CCP designed. It's exactly what they designed, and people are using as it is designed. Your final wrong assumption is you think the game is broke in this aspect of the game. Your wrong impression is you think you know what you're talking about. Like I said I've been here since 2003. I have seen the buffs and nerfs that CCP used to make to adjust for dps creep and other factors when ganking got too much. I also was around at the time of the Zombie incident in Yulai and read the post made by the lead dev at the time, the original lead dev, who stated "high sec is supposed to be relatively safe"... Not "high sec is counterstrike in space".
Read the words above again. You violated the Code, and you were punished. You can find the Code here:
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
670
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:45:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken. Your first wrong impression is to think Hi-Sec is supposedly safe. Your second is your assumption that this isn't the game CCP designed. It's exactly what they designed, and people are using as it is designed. Your final wrong assumption is you think the game is broke in this aspect of the game. Your wrong impression is you think you know what you're talking about. Like I said I've been here since 2003. I have seen the buffs and nerfs that CCP used to make to adjust for dps creep and other factors when ganking got too much. I also was around at the time of the Zombie incident in Yulai and read the post made by the lead dev at the time, the original lead dev, who stated "high sec is supposed to be relatively safe"... Not "high sec is counterstrike in space". Read the words above again. You violated the Code, and you were punished. You can find the Code here: http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html I'm not interested in that rubbish. EvE Online is supposed to be a complex game, kills should earned. If you want to roleplay some idiot roleplay then fine, but you should still EARN your kills. Low skill easy kills please **** off and go to play a FPS already. |
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2079
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:46:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken. Your first wrong impression is to think Hi-Sec is supposedly safe. Your second is your assumption that this isn't the game CCP designed. It's exactly what they designed, and people are using as it is designed. Your final wrong assumption is you think the game is broke in this aspect of the game. Your wrong impression is you think you know what you're talking about. Like I said I've been here since 2003. I have seen the buffs and nerfs that CCP used to make to adjust for dps creep and other factors when ganking got too much. I also was around at the time of the Zombie incident in Yulai and read the post made by the lead dev at the time, the original lead dev, who stated "high sec is supposed to be relatively safe"... Not "high sec is counterstrike in space". Read the words above again. You violated the Code, and you were punished. You can find the Code here: http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html I'm not interested in that rubbish. EvE Online is supposed to be a complex game, kills should earned. If you want to roleplay some idiot roleplay then fine, but you should still EARN your kills. Low skill easy kills please **** off and go to play a FPS already.
Sounds like someone is mad.
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Anomaly One
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:48:00 -
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hmm nvm, I get what you mean, or not. |
Mythrandier
Spacelane Salvage
129
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:57:00 -
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There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.
In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
671
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:05:00 -
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Mythrandier wrote:There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.
In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities. I'm not butthurt. I'm annoyed that my favorite game's gameplay is turning into rubbish. |
Levome Thorphan
Evil Genius Organisation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:06:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.
There is no "safe space" in EVE... if you want to AFK safely, go sit in a station. And you haven't even been ganked (so you never even lost anything?) so what are you complaining about lol...
On the other hand I do agree that a bigger risk for the aggressor would be nice. |
Levome Thorphan
Evil Genius Organisation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:09:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mythrandier wrote:There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.
In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities. I'm not butthurt. I'm annoyed that my favorite game's gameplay is turning into rubbish.
Turning into? These are not new mechanics you are mentioning... |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
671
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:12:00 -
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Levome Thorphan wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken. There is no "safe space" in EVE... if you want to AFK safely, go sit in a station. And you haven't even been ganked (so you never even lost anything?) so what are you complaining about lol... On the other hand I do agree that a bigger risk for the aggressor would be nice. As I mentioned already, I'm not asking for safe space, but as I also mentioned, as per the original intention of highsec, its was supposed to be relatively safe.
I'm not against suicide ganking, I was one of the first people to gank barges when they first came out, and I suicided someone the other day in Jita, however the ease of suiciding along with the no consequences of the mechanic are not what EvE is supposed to be about.
EvE is supposed to be HARSH, not just harsh on carebears, but harsh on everyone. We have a subset of players, who are by and large obvious carebears, hiding behind alts with no risk to themselves and killing people without any risk, any effort or any skill.
That's not EVE imo. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two
431
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:14:00 -
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Well before there was can flipping, which people mostly did in the hope they would dock up and come back out in a combat ship or their defender from their corp would come out and have a nice bit of pvp. Miners complained to get bigger ore holds and safer mechanics. Now instead of flipping there is nothing to do except straight up gank, which probably ends up in more dead barges than before. |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
230
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:17:00 -
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Sensors report vast densities of rear pain in this sector!
Also hisec is not supposed to be safe. Safety has a price: be at the keyboard or fly a brick and make it look unappealing. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
493
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:17:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:
I'm not interested in that rubbish. EvE Online is supposed to be a complex game, kills should earned. If you want to roleplay some idiot roleplay then fine, but you should still EARN your kills. Low skill easy kills please **** off and go to play a FPS already.
Actually Ziona, let me lay some logic on you...
This is a sandbox game that is usually regarded as being "cold and harsh."
Now...
Which is more harsh?
A low skill, easy kill...
Or a fight fought heroically...
Hmmmm?
Or let me put it in plainly...
There is no bushido in space. |
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
772
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:20:00 -
[21] - Quote
This is strange, I have never been ganked in highsec and my cargohold is most of the time worth it.
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Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
309
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:23:00 -
[22] - Quote
I don't think this one will run out anywhere near as much line as the economics thread did.
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To Be Me
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:26:00 -
[23] - Quote
Yes you said it right, this is eve online.. Now dont expect it to be rainbow pokemon 2.
And its in the deep roots of eve to fear when you click "connect". You arent supposed to think this is a normal fair game, it is not.
You see ccp permabanned 4 of my accounts for some stupid thing and i didnt cry.
Now go shed your tears away on your moms shoulders
ps: you should also need skills and brains to fit a proper tank in your badger. Same rules applied. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
671
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:26:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
I'm not interested in that rubbish. EvE Online is supposed to be a complex game, kills should earned. If you want to roleplay some idiot roleplay then fine, but you should still EARN your kills. Low skill easy kills please **** off and go to play a FPS already.
Actually Ziona, let me lay some logic on you... This is a sandbox game that is usually regarded as being "cold and harsh." Now... Which is more harsh? A low skill, easy kill... Or a fight fought heroically... Hmmmm? Or let me put it in plainly... There is no bushido in space. The problem is not the kill, the problem is the risk. Let me explain. I have 2 billion in implants in my head, I'm flying around in Goonsec in a 2 billion isk HAC. Today I had 2.5 billion extra in my hold which I got to high sec. So that's 6.5 billion I'm risking. Today I got a wormhole to high sec to stash the loot in a station. No problems.
However, lets imagine instead I got pinged at a gate by a gank squad of cats. 5 Cats could do it easily in a 0.5
Now I'm risking 6.5 billion and my main and they're risking a couple of disposable alts (and we all know they recycle them) and 2 million isks in ship and fittings. So a crap load of risk for me and literally zero risk for them. Its un-EvE like.
The strong should profit and the weak should not, but the whole thing has turned upside down and the weak scared losers are the ones profiting off the strong. Why? Because we have ****** low skilled ships that cost next to nothing doing HAC damage and no consequences anymore for suiciding. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2080
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:32:00 -
[25] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
I'm not interested in that rubbish. EvE Online is supposed to be a complex game, kills should earned. If you want to roleplay some idiot roleplay then fine, but you should still EARN your kills. Low skill easy kills please **** off and go to play a FPS already.
Actually Ziona, let me lay some logic on you... This is a sandbox game that is usually regarded as being "cold and harsh." Now... Which is more harsh? A low skill, easy kill... Or a fight fought heroically... Hmmmm? Or let me put it in plainly... There is no bushido in space. The problem is not the kill, the problem is the risk. Let me explain. I have 2 billion in implants in my head, I'm flying around in Goonsec in a 2 billion isk HAC. Today I had 2.5 billion extra in my hold which I got to high sec. So that's 6.5 billion I'm risking. Today I got a wormhole to high sec to stash the loot in a station. No problems. However, lets imagine instead I got pinged at a gate by a gank squad of cats. 5 Cats could do it easily in a 0.5 Now I'm risking 6.5 billion and my main and they're risking a couple of disposable alts (and we all know they recycle them) and 2 million isks in ship and fittings. So a crap load of risk for me and literally zero risk for them. Its un-EvE like. The strong should profit and the weak should not, but the whole thing has turned upside down and the weak scared losers are the ones profiting off the strong. Why? Because we have ****** low skilled ships that cost next to nothing doing HAC damage and no consequences anymore for suiciding.
So you are crying because some people used teamwork in a multiplayer game to outwit your soloing?
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KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
494
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:32:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:
The problem is not the kill, the problem is the risk. Let me explain. I have 2 billion in implants in my head, I'm flying around in Goonsec in a 2 billion isk HAC. Today I had 2.5 billion extra in my hold which I got to high sec. So that's 6.5 billion I'm risking. Today I got a wormhole to high sec to stash the loot in a station. No problems.
However, lets imagine instead I got pinged at a gate by a gank squad of cats. 5 Cats could do it easily in a 0.5
Now I'm risking 6.5 billion and my main and they're risking a couple of disposable alts (and we all know they recycle them) and 2 million isks in ship and fittings. So a crap load of risk for me and literally zero risk for them. Its un-EvE like.
The strong should profit and the weak should not, but the whole thing has turned upside down and the weak scared losers are the ones profiting off the strong. Why? Because we have ****** low skilled ships that cost next to nothing doing HAC damage and no consequences anymore for suiciding.
So what that there is no risk?
You are getting caught up on the killboard, and isk lost.
You are getting caught up on space pixels.
I fly around in my training pod, every day, down the highway. Who cares? Isk can be remade.
"Isk" is not "EvE." It is the lubricant that "EvE" uses to run smoothly.
Now I feel like you are a bot-aspirant, Ziona.
Are you Code-compliant?
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
230
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:32:00 -
[27] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
I'm not interested in that rubbish. EvE Online is supposed to be a complex game, kills should earned. If you want to roleplay some idiot roleplay then fine, but you should still EARN your kills. Low skill easy kills please **** off and go to play a FPS already.
Actually Ziona, let me lay some logic on you... This is a sandbox game that is usually regarded as being "cold and harsh." Now... Which is more harsh? A low skill, easy kill... Or a fight fought heroically... Hmmmm? Or let me put it in plainly... There is no bushido in space. The problem is not the kill, the problem is the risk. Let me explain. I have 2 billion in implants in my head, I'm flying around in Goonsec in a 2 billion isk HAC. Today I had 2.5 billion extra in my hold which I got to high sec. So that's 6.5 billion I'm risking. Today I got a wormhole to high sec to stash the loot in a station. No problems. However, lets imagine instead I got pinged at a gate by a gank squad of cats. 5 Cats could do it easily in a 0.5 Now I'm risking 6.5 billion and my main and they're risking a couple of disposable alts (and we all know they recycle them) and 2 million isks in ship and fittings. So a crap load of risk for me and literally zero risk for them. Its un-EvE like. The strong should profit and the weak should not, but the whole thing has turned upside down and the weak scared losers are the ones profiting off the strong. Why? Because we have ****** low skilled ships that cost next to nothing doing HAC damage and no consequences anymore for suiciding.
They need to identify you, find you, catch you and kill you. It takes more skill than you think, it's actually easier to bubble a gate and sit on it.
If you're that scared, adapt and fly cloaked. If you don't and get ganked, well, you're the prey and they'll profit. It's very EVE like that even a low-skilled character can hurt a veteran if the latter is careless. |
Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:35:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:This is strange, I have never been ganked in highsec and my cargohold is most of the time worth it.
I haven't been ganked either. That's not the point. The point is its too easy, theres no risk and it costs nothing. If you gank there should be a cost, there is not. 2 million is not a cost, its pocket change.
Like I said in another thread on a similiar topic, before destroyers and easy ganking were introduced, it would cost you a battleship to gank, now it costs you a catalyst. That's a 98% reduction in cost. That's too cheap. |
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:39:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:This is strange, I have never been ganked in highsec and my cargohold is most of the time worth it.
I haven't been ganked either. That's not the point. The point is its too easy, theres no risk and it costs nothing. If you gank there should be a cost, there is not. 2 million is not a cost, its pocket change. Like I said in another thread on a similiar topic, before destroyers and easy ganking were introduced, it would cost you a battleship to gank, now it costs you a catalyst. That's a 98% reduction in cost. That's too cheap.
Destroyers and Easy Ganking are merely the next evolutionary step after the Large Weapon BC's came out. Because some EFT warrior figured out you could apply the same dps with few handful's of destroyers, as you could with the evolutionary step above it.
It is people developing the sandbox, Ziona. |
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:39:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
I'm not interested in that rubbish. EvE Online is supposed to be a complex game, kills should earned. If you want to roleplay some idiot roleplay then fine, but you should still EARN your kills. Low skill easy kills please **** off and go to play a FPS already.
Actually Ziona, let me lay some logic on you... This is a sandbox game that is usually regarded as being "cold and harsh." Now... Which is more harsh? A low skill, easy kill... Or a fight fought heroically... Hmmmm? Or let me put it in plainly... There is no bushido in space. The problem is not the kill, the problem is the risk. Let me explain. I have 2 billion in implants in my head, I'm flying around in Goonsec in a 2 billion isk HAC. Today I had 2.5 billion extra in my hold which I got to high sec. So that's 6.5 billion I'm risking. Today I got a wormhole to high sec to stash the loot in a station. No problems. However, lets imagine instead I got pinged at a gate by a gank squad of cats. 5 Cats could do it easily in a 0.5 Now I'm risking 6.5 billion and my main and they're risking a couple of disposable alts (and we all know they recycle them) and 2 million isks in ship and fittings. So a crap load of risk for me and literally zero risk for them. Its un-EvE like. The strong should profit and the weak should not, but the whole thing has turned upside down and the weak scared losers are the ones profiting off the strong. Why? Because we have ****** low skilled ships that cost next to nothing doing HAC damage and no consequences anymore for suiciding.
MWD cloak through the gates. Fit stabs + inertias. Contract the loot to a courier. Contract the whole ship and travel in a covops.
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